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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:15 PM Nov 2020

🚨BREAKING: Pennsylvania Federal Court DENIES Republican effort to block Allegheny County



🚨BREAKING: Pennsylvania Federal Court DENIES Republican effort to block Allegheny County from including ballots in certification.

Trump and his allies are now 1-38 in post election litigation.


1-38!
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🚨BREAKING: Pennsylvania Federal Court DENIES Republican effort to block Allegheny County (Original Post) Roland99 Nov 2020 OP
Does this end the orange GOP judges quest to stop certification in PA? Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #1
Nope. That was supposed to have a hearing this afternoon and on Friday Roland99 Nov 2020 #3
That's something different and it was filed in state, not federal, DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #6
That's right. State Supreme Court, right? Roland99 Nov 2020 #11
Filed in Commonwealth Court DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #12
What a tangled web. Makes NFL playoff formulas look like 1+1 Roland99 Nov 2020 #14
Thanks! Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #10
No, there's still a suit in Commonwealth Court to DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #9
I doubt there is any real risk of that. PTWB Nov 2020 #13
Marc Elias just tweeted about it. We're good Roland99 Nov 2020 #16
Yeah, that's what I think, too. DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #17
I also look at Bush v Gore. SCOTUS simply said stop counting. Certify Roland99 Nov 2020 #18
Remember this is PA state.commonwealth court, not federal court DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #21
Right. But the reasoning holds Roland99 Nov 2020 #24
We had a similar thing happen in Texas LeftInTX Nov 2020 #35
In fact, Act 77 included a provision allowing for DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #19
The window is relatively meaningless. PTWB Nov 2020 #20
State Rs wrote it, not me. DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #22
OK, I bet it is gone by Thursday. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #23
Wompity Womp Womp Womp Blue Owl Nov 2020 #2
I am going to assume that there is a very high waterfall warmfeet Nov 2020 #15
great graphic! Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #27
... proclaiming all the while that he won... ailsagirl Nov 2020 #31
Snagging this one flying rabbit Nov 2020 #33
The PA supreme court also declined to revisit DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #4
Rt! TY Marc! Cha Nov 2020 #5
trump & his Bad Faith thugs.. 1-38 Cha Nov 2020 #7
I think his campaign should apply for grumpyduck Nov 2020 #8
1-38?....... Fire the coach already world wide wally Nov 2020 #25
Shit, even Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck would throw in the towel on those numbers! Initech Nov 2020 #26
Holy shit! I think the Generals have a better win - loss record against the Harlem Globetrotters! Initech Nov 2020 #28
So, what is this story? Rice4VP Nov 2020 #29
That happened earlier then the state took them to state Supreme Court and won questionseverything Nov 2020 #34
YAY!!!!! ailsagirl Nov 2020 #30
I'm confused - which case is this again? Retrograde Nov 2020 #32

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
3. Nope. That was supposed to have a hearing this afternoon and on Friday
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:21 PM
Nov 2020

But, presidential election is already certified. That was done a couple of days ago. The suit to stop certification would only affect down ballot races

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
12. Filed in Commonwealth Court
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:39 PM
Nov 2020

It seeks to invalidate Act 77 which the R-controlled state legislature passed and Gov Wolf signed that expanded voting by removing the restrictions (must be medically unable to vote in person or document that you will be out of state/area) on absentee voting thus making PA a "no excuse absentee ballot" voting state.

Judge granted a prelim injunction stopping cert of any elections that haven't yet been certified, but presidential vote was certified prior to her order. However, AG Shapiro/Dems appealed directly to the state Supreme Court and the judge has cancelled the hearing she had sched for Friday waiting for the Supreme Court to decide if it wants to accept the state's appeal.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
9. No, there's still a suit in Commonwealth Court to
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:28 PM
Nov 2020

have Act 77 declared unconstitutional and thus invalidate all 2.7M mailed ballots. The judge granted a preliminary injuction and enjoined the state from certifying any results not already certified which the presidential results are. There was supposed to be an evidentiary hearing on Friday.

However, AG Shapiro/Dems skipped right over the Commonwealth Court and appealed directly to the State Supreme Court. After that happened, the Commonwealth Court judge post-poned/canx the hearing scheduled for Friday in case the Supreme Court chooses to take the case.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
13. I doubt there is any real risk of that.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:44 PM
Nov 2020

Even if Act 77 is declared unconstitutional we are in no danger of having 2.7M mail-in ballots invalidated. There was ample time to bring the suit prior to the election. At worst, Act 77 would be invalidated for future elections.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
16. Marc Elias just tweeted about it. We're good
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:51 PM
Nov 2020


There are lots of things in the world to worry about right now but the Pennsylvania election result is not one of them.

The governor has certified the results pursuant to federal law. Joe Biden will be sworn in on January 20th.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
17. Yeah, that's what I think, too.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:53 PM
Nov 2020

Any ruling that Act 77 is unconstitutional would not be retroactive. If so, all the June primary results would be invalidated, too.

LeftInTX

(25,245 posts)
35. We had a similar thing happen in Texas
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 02:52 AM
Nov 2020

The governor wrote an EO to expand early voting in the July primary runoff..

Then, on July 27th, he wrote an EO to expand early voting in the November election.

Allen West sued on Sept 23rd saying it was unconstitutional (similar to the way Act 77 could be considered unconstitutional). Repubs were saying, "Don't vote the first week of early voting, cuz your vote will get thrown out".

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/09/23/texas-republicans-greg-abbott-early-voting/


The Texas Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a bid by leading state Republicans to overturn Gov. Greg Abbott’s order that added six days of early voting as a pandemic safety measure.
https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/07/texas-supreme-court-rejects-gop-leaders-bid-limit-voting-time/5909352002/


They also tried to throw out 127,000 Harris County votes.



Our State Supreme Court is all Republican. Everything is Republican in this state.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
19. In fact, Act 77 included a provision allowing for
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:55 PM
Nov 2020

challenges within a 180 day window. Not a peep before now.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
20. The window is relatively meaningless.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:56 PM
Nov 2020

An unconstitutional law cannot attach a time limit to challenge its constitutionality to the law itself.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
15. I am going to assume that there is a very high waterfall
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:48 PM
Nov 2020

at the end of this run.

Hopefully, it is several thousand feet high.

Ironically, the only thing the investigators will find is a pair of very tiny hands and a few strands of hair, dyed yellow.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
4. The PA supreme court also declined to revisit
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:22 PM
Nov 2020

it's decision to allow some 2 or 3 thousand ballots that were without a hand-written date from the voter but received before the 8PM deadline on election day.

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
8. I think his campaign should apply for
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:25 PM
Nov 2020

a Guinness record for the most losses.

Or maybe they're holding off for a higher count?

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
32. I'm confused - which case is this again?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:51 PM
Nov 2020

Can we start numbering them so it's easier to keep track of all these suits. Maybe something like PA-11-25-01 for the first one filed today, and so on?

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