Why Trump's Flynn Pardon Could Backfire

[babylonsister]

https://politicalwire.com/2020/11/26/why-trumps-flynn-pardon-could-backfire/

Why Trump’s Flynn Pardon Could Backfire
November 26, 2020 at 8:19 am EST By Taegan Goddard

There’s a chance President Trump’s pardon of Michael Flynn could backfire some day, The Week reports.

Trump’s pardon, which he announced in a tweet, means Flynn will theoretically no longer be protected from self-incrimination under the 5th Amendment should he ever be called to testify against Trump.

[RazzleCat]

1. except, I still think he would lie

So say for some reason he does get called, he has shown to be of a character who would lie, just like Trump. At the very least he would have a very bad case of the "I can recall".

[babylonsister]

4. He's already pleaded guilty; I'm sure that's on the record so

it wouldn't seem to matter what he can recall now.

Trump pardons Flynn despite guilty plea in Russia probe
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-pardon-michael-flynn-russia-aeef585b08ba6f2c763c8c37bfd678ed

[no_hypocrisy]

2. And Flynn would be subject to subpoenas and perjury.

Not that the latter had any deference.

[JI7]

3. I think Flynn has something on Trump or the Russians demanded he free Flynn

Remember how he has never attacked Flynn in any way. When it came to some of the others he would claim to not know them or turn on them in some way .

We need investigations to find out everything even if we might not be able to hold them accountable legally. It should still be part of the public record.

[Trailrider1951]

15. That thought occurred to me as well

You know how Rump's mind works: quid pro quo. Flynn may just know enough to put Rump away for a long time.

[The Wizard]

5. Flynn is compromised.

If he's called as a witness prosecutors could refer to his confessions and sworn testimony and use that information to put Flynn in the position of telling the truth under oath or lying to protect Trump under oath. Will he risk prison exposure or testify truthfully? Didn't he once lead the chant of "Lock her up?"
The irony, it burns.

[Hortensis]

6. I feel sure they'd betray each other at the drop of a hat as soon

as that was their most advantageous choice, not just their only choice. And some state charges were held back for just this situation -- if all federal charges were pardoned -- and to avoid claims of violating double jeopardy.

So my question is not whether Flynn would squeal for a deal, but whether he could already have received an offer he couldn't turn down. He's been associating with extremely powerful and ruthless criminals and can't be of much more use to them at this point. We'll see.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Flynn has admitted, but wasn't charged with, violations of the Logan act re: Turkey

Then there was that nasty kidnap plot he and his son were involved in, but were never charged with...

[Lucinda]

10. +1 I think there are other chargeable items they held back for leverage

[Arazi]

12. Flynn's son is also guilty. Flynn Sr took the fall to protect his son

That's who Biden's DOJ needs to focus on.

Flynn Sr is beyond reach now imo but his son is fair game

[former9thward]

13. The Logan Act is unconstitutional on its face.

Every prosecutor knows this. That is why, in its more than 200 years of existence, it has never been successfully used.

[Lucinda]

8. I dont think he was charged with everything that they had him on...havent read

the wording of the pardon - but is it possible that there are still court days ahead for Flynn...?

[spanone]

9. Lying is a function of being a trump ally. He will lie as needed.

[Orrex]

11. That was my first reaction as well

Hell, we knew all along that president fuckface would pardon him, so no one should be surprised.

And in a few long weeks, private citizen fuckface will no longer have any power to block Flynn's testimony.

[duforsure]

14. All who gets pardons could be set up knowing they'll lie again,

Then evidence proving it, sending them to jail. I suspect certain people were ahead of trump knowing he'd do this.

[NeoGreen]

16. The question in my mind is,...

... does he know something that Putin may want kept quiet?