BEAUTIFUL: Trump campaign will have to pay Pennsylvania's costs for appeal THEY LOST!

[kpete]

a beautiful end to the third circuit docket sheet -- the Trump campaign will have to pay Pennsylvania's costs for the appeal

just to clarify--this is appellate court costs, not attorneys' fees. In the US, each party usually pays its own attorneys. Still, absent some unforeseen intervention by SCOTUS, I strongly suspect the district court will order the campaign to pay the other parties' fees too.

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Why Biden’s Big Popular Vote Win Didn’t Help Down-Ballot
November 27, 2020 at 1:31 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 77 Comments

Ron Brownstein: “While Bill Clinton twice won about 1,500 counties (roughly half the counties in America), Hillary Clinton carried just less than 500 (roughly one-sixth). Though Biden won the popular vote by at least 3 million more votes than she did, he only slightly expanded her geographic reach: So far, he’s carried 509 counties, based on the latest count from the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Program.”

Greg Sargent: “Why did Democrats bleed House seats? A top analyst offers surprising answers.”

Trump Loses Pennsylvania Again
November 27, 2020

“A federal appeals court on Friday handed another loss to the Trump campaign’s effort to undo President-elect Joe Biden’s win in Pennsylvania, with a judge — one of Trump’s nominees — writing that the campaign’s ‘claims have no merit,'” BuzzFeed News reports.

“In a 3-0 decision, the US Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit rejected the campaign’s effort to get a do-over of its lawsuit challenging the election results in Pennsylvania, which a lower court had already tossed out last week.”

Axios: “It’s another devastating blow to President Trump’s sinking efforts to overturn the results of the election.”

Rick Hasen: “This is an utter repudiation of the Trump campaign’s ridiculous lawsuit by three Republican-appointed judges.”

“It shows the absurdity of the litigation: besides the fact that the case was poorly lawyered — Rudy Giuliani’s oral argument was the worst I have heard in 25 years of following election law cases.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/11/27/trump-loses-in-court-again/

[Nevilledog]

1. As they should. Expensive shitshow.

[Ms. Toad]

6. Not as expensive as it might be.

The order is for costs, not costs plus attorney fees. A few thousand, at most.

(ETA: I have not tracked down the entire order, but the docket summary doesn't address attorney fees.)

[Nevilledog]

8. I assumed attorney fees

[Ms. Toad]

9. Atty fees are not usual -

And are generally an after-the-fact thing, by later motion. One of the orders specifically invited the winning defendants to move for attorney fees. It may even be the lower court version of this decision. So it may still be coming. But a big celebration over karma is premature.

[rustysgurl]

2. The Court will have to get in line

behind all the others he's stiffed over the years. Then again, I wouldn't want to owe a Court ANYTHING, so maybe it'll get paid.

[FakeNoose]

21. Yep - he'll never pay a cent

... but I love the fact that they've thrown down the gauntlet. No more pointless waste of time lawsuits just to jack-up his ego.

Other states - take note! Make Chump pay up front, or you'll never get reimbursed for anything.

[bluestarone]

3. GREAT news!

[lame54]

4. If they didn't insist on it up front...

They won't see it

[liberal N proud]

5. trump pay? He doesn't pay his bills

[Wellstone ruled]

7. Good Luck trying to Collect.

Just take a number and get in line at the Bankruptcy Court filing due after January 20 th. Trump Campaign=Bankrupt,every PAC associated too or with =Bankrupt. Why do you think Trump changed his Domicile to Florida. Dump your debt and keep your Residence.

[Karma13612]

10. Good! Eom

[TomDaisy]

11. trump still owes the City of El Paso $500,000 from a rally two years ago

[DENVERPOPS]

12. As far as I've heard

he hasn't paid a single city for all his rallies for the entire time since his pre election days........

If I were a city, and he announced he was coming, I would park construction vehicles on all the runways fifteen minutes before his arrivals.........Maybe that is one of the reasons why he picks Republican cities?????????

[Cha]

15. Right.. & how much Else does he

owe?

[avebury]

13. I don't see why entities that are owed money by Trump and/or his companies

don't work on getting liens filed against his various properties for the amounts owed to them. It would be difficult for Trump to sell anything if his properties end up with stacks and stacks of liens against the assets.

[Mr.Bill]

17. They are probably owned by shell corporations

and are already mortgaged to the hilt. Remember, Trump only "owns" a fraction of the properties that bear his name. On paper, he merely has a contract to manage most of those buildings.

[Cha]

14. Some Justice for Bad Faith Lawyers!

[Op-ed Daily]

16. This brings absolute joy to my day

Thank you for posting. Ha. Ha. Ha.

#DiaperDon

[Blue Owl]

18. Better have the collection agent on speed dial

[BobTheSubgenius]

19. The claims have no merit, which has a nice symmetry to it...

....or, perhaps, consistency. The campaign had none, either. And the "poor lawyering???" Good God. I doubt that any English-speaking person could have done a worse job.

A pity the case had to be heard in PA. If it could have been heard in OR, a Klingon-speaking person might have done better.

[Rorey]

20. I predict that malpractice lawsuits against his attorneys will be next

Well, that is, if he can find an attorney to take his case.

Suckers and losers.

[nakocal]

22. Gerrymandering is why the Democratic Party lost House seats.

[pansypoo53219]

23. if they can get it. Wi made him pay up front.

[flibbitygiblets]

24. Sounds like the Covidiots are about to get another tRump campaign "Final Notice" email

"Dear Suckers, uh, I mean supporters,

So far, you have ignored, Eric, Don Junior, Lara, and even Donald..."

[Snackshack]

25. I like...

The sentence.

"Each of these defects is fatal,"

Zero ambiguity in that statement.

Out of 38 or 40 lawsuits only one actually got a favorable ruling if I understand correctly. It was two but one got reversed I believe. It is clear that once DT realized he was not going to win by getting a majority of votes that he was going to have to go the legal route in order to get a second term. DT’s plan/expectation was that judges would just automatically rule in his favor out of loyalty to him. No real evidence or proof of fraud was going to be needed. Just get a case any kind of case in front of a judge from the Circuit Courts to Appellate Courts all the way up to the Supreme Court and they would rule in his favor.
That he really thought judges would just set aside or throw out altogether precedent, settled law or just basic minimum requirements needed to make a favorable ruling that could stand up in the light of day shows just how delusional he is. Thinking judges would toss any character or judicial credibility they had and make a ruling favoring him as a return favor for the favor (in his mind) that he did for them by putting them on the bench is astonishing but not surprising when looking at it through the lens of what he did when Rep. Dingell died. He was amazed Rep. Dingell’s wife bad mouthed him after he was “gracious” enough to grant Rep. Dingell a funeral with Military Honors.

Really looking forward to the new year.

[mtnsnake]

26. K&R!