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Towlie

(5,324 posts)
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:03 PM Nov 2020

Help me out here, I'm totally confused!

Trump was against wind turbines because, among other things, they kill birds:

October 23, 2020 - AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s skewed indictment of wind power

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s dismissal of wind power as a glitchy, pricey, bird-slaughtering way to make electricity is out of step with the times.

He slammed the technology in his debate with Democrat Joe Biden on Thursday night, falsely contending wind power is dirtier and far pricier than natural gas. Here’s a look at what he said:

(snip)

TRUMP: Wind power “kills all the birds.”


Now this:

Today - Trump administration moves ahead on gutting bird protections


The Trump administration moved forward Friday on gutting a longstanding federal protection for the nation’s birds, over objections from former federal officials and many scientists that billions more birds will likely perish as a result.

(snip)

The move scales back federal prosecution authority for the deadly threats migratory birds face from industry — from electrocution on power lines, to wind turbines that knock them from the air and oil field waste pits where landing birds perish in toxic water.




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PirateRo

(933 posts)
2. It's got nothing to do with birds, never did
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:11 PM
Nov 2020

But when big contributors represent fossil fuel companies, then it’s about saving birds.

Same argument for abortion, it has nothing to do with saving babies but it does have everything to do with controlling women. It’s sold as magical jesus crying because stupid people with no education in ethics or philosophy or logic cling to the divine theory of command and those people are promised reward of place for policing others.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. Trump says a lot of crap
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:13 PM
Nov 2020

He lies and makes stuff up constantly. He wants us to be confused about what he thinks and means. It's all just bloviating hot air in the form of sound waves vibrating molecules in the air. Don't pay any attention to him. Don't waste your time trying to find any logic in it.

Ignore him. He is irrelevant.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
4. He hates living things, he hates nature, and he hates birds,
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:14 PM
Nov 2020

but he loves the fossil fuel industry, which wind turbines compete with. And he lies.

Pretty simple really.

Marcuse

(7,469 posts)
5. Trump's sense of greed can often explain his logical inconsistencies.
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:14 PM
Nov 2020
Trump came by his hostility to wind energy through the back door. Many conservatives oppose it because they see it as antagonistic to fossil-fuel energy and a sop to climate change activists. Trump hates wind energy — has “studied it better than anybody” — because about a decade ago he bought a golf course in Scotland only to learn that an offshore wind farm was planned nearby. He worried this would hurt views from his course, so he launched a scorched-earth campaign to block the installation.

It earned him enormous enmity in the area. One prominent local opponent was identified as Scotsman of the year by Glenfiddich Scotch. Trump subsequently banned Glenfiddich from his properties.

But this was the genesis of his “turbines are noisy, dangerous and kill birds” argumentation, now streamlined and repurposed to young conservatives whose opposition to wind energy is more theoretical.

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/23/what-trump-was-talking-about-his-baffling-rant-about-wind-energy/|


Shermann

(7,409 posts)
7. This appears to be another version of the Republican windmill contradiction
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:22 PM
Nov 2020

Trump has stated regarding his wall that "... it’s a medieval solution, a wall. It’s true, because it worked then, and it works even better now.” Windmills were a medieval solution as well, and even go back earlier than that. And yes they work even better now. So why are windmills bad?

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