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Prove me wrong. Even if Miami-Dade went same % as 2016, we still lose Florida 2020 (Original Post) Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 OP
Say turnout is the same... Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #1
Convince me BGBD Nov 2020 #2
This Polybius Nov 2020 #3
I think TX is a good long term investment Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #9
I think TX is a waste. We weren't even close. I'd like to see Stacey Abrams or her clone go into Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #12
yeah, dump iowa and ohio, such a waste Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #10
Sorry but something went off the rails in the Miami-Dade vote. bullimiami Nov 2020 #4
If it's a consolation to you, the #s were very similar to 2004 there. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #6
Yes, thx to the a-hole dejoy! 27% of the mail in vote was lost out of SO FL Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #13
damn it... i just did all the math and DU ate the post because i "did not enter a subject" Takket Nov 2020 #5
go back and do your math homework! Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #8
The DU dog ate it!!! I swear!!! Lol Takket Nov 2020 #15
A Ground Campaign and Rallies might have made a difference JI7 Nov 2020 #7
At our present pace of greenhouse gases, FL has less than a century to exist. roamer65 Nov 2020 #11
Florida is history kansasobama Nov 2020 #14
Still at it, huh? marmar Nov 2020 #16
I won't even try In It to Win It Nov 2020 #17
Sadly, I agree. Laelth Nov 2020 #18
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
1. Say turnout is the same...
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 01:44 AM
Nov 2020

So, 1,158,918. It's a big assumption but turnout was up across the board. Let's go with it.

If Biden won Miami-Dade by the margins Hillary did (63-34), he'd pull in 732,667 - or 114,803 votes more than he did.

Trump would have finished with 392,061 votes, or a 140,772 fewer votes than he did.

So, if my math is correct, Trump would have finished with 5,527,959 and Biden would have finished with 5,411,848. So, you are correct, he would have lost the state by roughly 116,000 votes, which would have been very similar to Hillary's margin there four years ago.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
2. Convince me
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 01:47 AM
Nov 2020

Why we should put any resources back into Florida. We should abandon it and Ohio and focus on GA and NC.

Nimble_Idea

(1,803 posts)
9. I think TX is a good long term investment
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 02:18 AM
Nov 2020

better than Florida believe it or not. TX will be the next Cali before FL ever would (if ever).

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
12. I think TX is a waste. We weren't even close. I'd like to see Stacey Abrams or her clone go into
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 04:38 AM
Nov 2020

Other southern states with young AA populations, LA, MS, AL

Nimble_Idea

(1,803 posts)
10. yeah, dump iowa and ohio, such a waste
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 02:23 AM
Nov 2020

and brain dead ideas in south carolina and kentucky. I won't say what I want to say about Maine people, because I'm sure I'd get flagged.

Way forward is
All in with the Blue wall, plus NC, GA, NV, and AZ.

I will leave Florida to Mike Bloomberg and the New Yorkers.

bullimiami

(13,076 posts)
4. Sorry but something went off the rails in the Miami-Dade vote.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 01:49 AM
Nov 2020

There needs to be a serious audit.

The numbers are insane. Anyone who knows anything about Miami-Dade and the Cuban vote has to know this.

Takket

(21,528 posts)
5. damn it... i just did all the math and DU ate the post because i "did not enter a subject"
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 01:54 AM
Nov 2020

But anyway if Biden pulled the same % of the vote in miami dade as Hillary did, he actually would have won Florida by about 66000 votes. As it is he won MD by about 85000 votes. If we got 64% as Hillary did he would have won by over 300000 votes. if you add 200000 more to Biden and take the same number away from drumpf, drumpf loses.

Nimble_Idea

(1,803 posts)
8. go back and do your math homework!
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 02:02 AM
Nov 2020

teacher gives no credit unless you show your work. You know this!

Takket

(21,528 posts)
15. The DU dog ate it!!! I swear!!! Lol
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 11:11 AM
Nov 2020

Seriously though DU shouldn’t be losing posts because people forgot the subject. It should just post without the subject. Why is the subject even necessary anyway??!

JI7

(89,239 posts)
7. A Ground Campaign and Rallies might have made a difference
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 02:00 AM
Nov 2020

The lack of Ground Campaign was what hurt with Latinos in Texas and Florida the most based on what organizers from the community said .

But the reality is that Florida is just conservative leaning. And tends to be VERY anti tax and anti regulations .

And it doesn't help that people that move to the state tend to be conservative types that go there to get away from taxes and regulations .

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
11. At our present pace of greenhouse gases, FL has less than a century to exist.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 02:33 AM
Nov 2020

So at what point do we cut and run?

https://m.

kansasobama

(609 posts)
14. Florida is history
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:48 AM
Nov 2020

Florida just cannot be won. Seniors will vote for GOP from COVID ventilators and Florida Cuban voters and some Hispanics are also moving away. A relative asked me to move to florida. Said I should not worry about global warming. We won't suffer as it will be after decide. Just enjoy Desantis taxes.

Texas was a big defeat for Beto. So sad.

Our state's are GA, AZ, and NC. We are ultimately losing Wisconsin and PA.

We also need to campaign moderately but legislate left. Bernie like candidates do not worry about off year elections and down ballots. GOP has done well bottom up. If GOP had a moderate candidate, we are in trouble. Learn from Bush whom I hated. Campaign as a compassionate conservative, translation moderate, legislate hard right.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
18. Sadly, I agree.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 12:39 PM
Nov 2020

Florida was a MASSIVE waste of resources this year, and no. It wasn’t even close.

If Bloomberg had dumped that much cash in NC, we’d probably have an extra Senator and an extra state legislature.

-Laelth

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