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Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 04:30 PM Nov 2020

Time to fight back against Republicans framing all the issues

They want to call us the Democrat Party? Lets call them Extremists.

They want to call us socialists? Let's repeat they want to destroy Social Security and Medicare.

They want to call us tax and spenders? Let's call them servants of Wall Street.

They want to call us elites? Let's call them book burners.

Well, you get the idea. They've been defining us for years. Their pundits, their elected members, their propaganda mills never stop using the same words over and over again until they become "reality" in the minds of many.

Well, it's payback time. It's a given that Dems don't march in "goose-step" like Republicans, but we've got to work together on framing them the way in which they've spent decades labeling us. It's a really shitty game. But it works only if we all do it every time we speak of them..

I really don't have any idea how you get a project like this rolling. But evidently, Republicans do. And either we get into this game, or we'll go on getting fucked forever. Until we start fightying back, we will be the ones walking around with whatever labels they want to hang on us.









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Time to fight back against Republicans framing all the issues (Original Post) Cyrano Nov 2020 OP
Let's remind voters there's ONE party in the developed world that meets ALL 14 criteria for fascism sandensea Nov 2020 #1
In Light Of Your POst Me. Nov 2020 #2
Sure! Anything that implies cruelty, they're for it - like Pavlov's pigeon is for little red buttons sandensea Nov 2020 #3
Actually they can't do that... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #4
Well, THey Have Lawmakers From Certain States Who Are Hand In Glove With This Me. Nov 2020 #5
Totally agree MacKasey Nov 2020 #13
Thanks. Would that it weren't so. sandensea Nov 2020 #14
pro birth---not prolife Always Randy Nov 2020 #6
anti-life HUAJIAO Nov 2020 #15
Your anti-life statement is the perfect reply to their pro-life bullshit. Cyrano Nov 2020 #19
Spot on truth. Welcome to DU! JudyM Nov 2020 #20
Mobilize MONEY to invest in media STRUCTURE and outreach. It's isn't any one magical set of words. coti Nov 2020 #7
I agree about calling them extremists. That's what they've become. Hortensis Nov 2020 #8
It would help BGBD Nov 2020 #9
Yes, and we need a big loudspeaker too, to battle the hate radio and TV that spews GOP crap. n/t Pobeka Nov 2020 #10
I have a couple ideas to get this project rolling. 1. Don't repeat right wing talking points. 2.... Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #11
They used "Right to Work" to take away safeinOhio Nov 2020 #12
Absolutely! pandr32 Nov 2020 #16
The reason the repug framing has worked is because of a complicit MSM Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #17
George Lakoff has been trying to tell Democrats this for decades mtnsnake Nov 2020 #18

sandensea

(21,630 posts)
1. Let's remind voters there's ONE party in the developed world that meets ALL 14 criteria for fascism
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 04:36 PM
Nov 2020

If it quacks like a duck...

Me.

(35,454 posts)
2. In Light Of Your POst
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 04:43 PM
Nov 2020

The cons and trump regime are trying to change how some states execute those who have been given a death sentence. The new options will include firing squad, electrocution and death by poisonous gas. You know...just like the nazis,

sandensea

(21,630 posts)
3. Sure! Anything that implies cruelty, they're for it - like Pavlov's pigeon is for little red buttons
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 04:52 PM
Nov 2020

They'd legalize domestic torture if they could (and they might have in a 2nd Chump term, what with their new 6-3 SCOTUS majority).

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
4. Actually they can't do that...
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 05:25 PM
Nov 2020

state executions are controlled by the states.

Trump's EO will only affect federal executions. He's trying to put it on the fast track, I guess so he can brag about how many criminals he killed while in office.

Congress should pass a law eliminating the death penalty.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
5. Well, THey Have Lawmakers From Certain States Who Are Hand In Glove With This
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 05:31 PM
Nov 2020

didn't hear which state lawmakers are pushing this. I agree about the death penalty and maybe they should try again as now there are Catholics on the SC who are very rigid. I wonder what Justice Barrett thinks of the rebuke from the pope regarding covid and so called freedoms.

sandensea

(21,630 posts)
14. Thanks. Would that it weren't so.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 06:05 PM
Nov 2020

But having lived in Mississippi in the '80s and '90s, it doesn't surprise me that they completely remade themselves this way.

The fervor for adopting out-and-out fascism among 50% of GOP voters there was intense and palpable.

"Bush was just too nice," they assured themselves after Clinton won in '92 - which is when the fascist shift in the GOP really began to snowball, as you know.

With Lumpball and Faux News leading the way.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
19. Your anti-life statement is the perfect reply to their pro-life bullshit.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:33 PM
Nov 2020

Thank you for speaking truth, HUAJIAO.

coti

(4,612 posts)
7. Mobilize MONEY to invest in media STRUCTURE and outreach. It's isn't any one magical set of words.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 05:33 PM
Nov 2020

Republicans are able to do this because they've taken losing money in media and marketing as acceptable in the grand scheme of things, and they've kept at it even while being called crazy (which they are) and being ostracized. They've also invited in enemies of the US to amplify the messaging and weaken our democratic values.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. I agree about calling them extremists. That's what they've become.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 05:34 PM
Nov 2020

Also their counterparts on the far left. No coincidence that many ruthless fascists are also, or previously were, socialists as well. Just check out Mussolini's or Hungary's Viktor Orban's ideology; their parliament now serves him and recently voted to allow him to rule by decree and to arrest people who object. The U.S. held on November 3, but Hungary is no longer a democracy ruled of, by and for the people.

We have to admit that framing arguments for those who believe as those committed to do is not going to affect either extremist group. Truth and facts only make people who support extremist leaders and illiberal cultural goals double down on their beliefs. On both sides, fostered by populist leaders, those beliefs are that liberalism (the Democratic Party in the U.S.) and thus democratic elections are destroying their country and that only the ruthless imposition of their virtuous RW or LW beliefs on all will save them.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
9. It would help
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020

if we didn't create the names they use to attack us with.

They're literal fascists, but you don't see them going around trying to sell themselves as Republican Fascists.

Nimble_Idea

(1,803 posts)
11. I have a couple ideas to get this project rolling. 1. Don't repeat right wing talking points. 2....
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

Learn to spell. I will work on both. Let's all do it!

safeinOhio

(32,675 posts)
12. They used "Right to Work" to take away
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 05:43 PM
Nov 2020

Union rights. I’m using “Right to Vote” laws to make sure every vote counts.

pandr32

(11,581 posts)
16. Absolutely!
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 06:41 PM
Nov 2020

On the spot, too--don't let them have the chance to let their framing gel.
Every non-Fox media personality should get the memo.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
17. The reason the repug framing has worked is because of a complicit MSM
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 07:52 PM
Nov 2020

Your plan will not work because the "librul" media will not go along with it.
I am not sure why the world spins like this, but it does.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
18. George Lakoff has been trying to tell Democrats this for decades
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 07:59 PM
Nov 2020

but for some reason our think tanks can never seem to compete with the right wing think tanks when it comes to what you're saying. Anyway, I couldn't agree more with you.

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