John Dean spot on!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Link to tweet

?s=20

[2naSalit]

1. That's what I think too.

K&R

[Hortensis]

61. Me too. That and that strong attention queered a lot of the GOP's

planned election subversion. By various authorities, counterintelligence ops, the press, and the public.

We know that cyber warfare between our intelligence services and Russia's especially, but not only, had heated up, but when we'll get details on that...?

Whatever. Trump's delusions were fed by others also too sure they wouldn't lose. Anyone else reminded of Romney's 2012 loss and Karl Rove's noisy, too emphatic disbelief...? (!)

[canetoad]

84. +1

Been thinking that since the election, thus his absolute refusal to believe the truth.

[2naSalit]

85. That and...

I think something hinky happened with the Senate/House races.

[tanyev]

2. He believed his own BS about our lack of enthusiasm because Biden campaigned responsibly

during a pandemic. If it hadn't been for Covid, I think Biden could have had rallies that blew Donny off the map.

[GoCubsGo]

17. Yep, and he believes his own bullshit about Biden being "feeble."

Both physically and mentally. All projection of his own feeble mind and physical weakness, of course. He is shocked that 80+ million people do not see things the way he does, or slurp up his filthy lies the way his flying monkey cult does.

That, and we out-voted much of their cheating. That 80 million margin would be even bigger if not for that.

[robbob]

50. I wonder if Biden shits his pants on a daily basis?

Somehow I doubt it.

[PCIntern]

3. K and R but paywall.

[COL Mustard]

27. Here's An Excerpt

First three paragraphs:

"The facts were indisputable: President Trump had lost.

But Trump refused to see it that way. Sequestered in the White House and brooding out of public view after his election defeat, rageful and at times delirious in a torrent of private conversations, Trump was, in the telling of one close adviser, like “Mad King George, muttering, ‘I won. I won. I won.’ ”

However cleareyed Trump’s aides may have been about his loss to President-elect Joe Biden, many of them nonetheless indulged their boss and encouraged him to keep fighting with legal appeals. They were “happy to scratch his itch,” this adviser said. “If he thinks he won, it’s like, ‘Shh . . . we won’t tell him.’ ”"

Mad King George indeed!

[StarfishSaver]

4. This is it in a nutshell

He knows he cheated and was promised a win and now that he lost, he's sure he was out-cheated.

The people promising him that his cheating would guarantee a win didn't factor in the massive Democratic voter turnout, especially among African-American voters who, thanks to a coordinated voter education campaign ("Vote Early!" "Fill out your ballots correctly and completely!".) and a huge offensive and defensive legal onslaught (including thousands of lawyers around the country), were able to overcome much of the unprecedented voter suppression a d voter intimidation targeted at them.

[Kitchari]

6. Agree

As you stated: "He knows he cheated and was promised a win and now that he lost, he's sure he was out-cheated" -- succinct and to the point

[murielm99]

23. I am reminded of Karl Rove's election night meltdown

over Ohio. But Obama did not cheat. Neither did Biden.

[certainot]

43. rove knows some of the details and needs to be asked under oath along with full investigation

of the election machinery. they're skimming votes in the counting along the way to final numbers and it has to be subtle or it gets suspicious.

dems need to ride the trumper howls for investigations

[Laura PourMeADrink]

90. yes. a GOP whistleblower said Rove told him it was very

easy to create a "win" if the opponent was within a couple points in pre-election polls.

[certainot]

93. we have to fix this shit

[PatSeg]

51. That's exactly what popped in my head

They'd cheated in Ohio in 2004 and they tried again in 2008, but this time it didn't work. Too many voters turned out apparently.

[DENVERPOPS]

60. Perfectly said, PatSeg

2008 & 2012 They cheated, but had no idea Biden was going to get so many votes.

[PatSeg]

71. Yes, pretty sad

They can only win by cheating and that's if the race is close. Democrats have to come out in huge numbers.

[StarfishSaver]

69. That kind of cheating only works in the margins

It's impossible to overcome a landslide.

[PatSeg]

72. Yep and they should have seen it coming

Republicans had the worst candidate imaginable.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Yes. And one single person can be blamed for the faulty strategy of dissing mail-ins

Trump. He planned it from the start, anticipating that Dems would "own" mails-ins exclusively and he could discredit them all. He didn't even recognize the supreme irony of the fact that HE, through his neglect, caused the virus to spread which created the need for mail-ins to begin with.

And, because he has scammed all his life and is so ignorant about government he totally misjudged the
sanctity and diligence of precincts across the nation. If he had ever worked the polls he would have known how seriously workers are that the vote is accurate.

[StarfishSaver]

11. Yep

He thought his demonization and constriction of absentee/mail-in voting would substantially suppress the black vote.

It made it much harder for us. But it didn't stop us. In fact, it helped prove how important our vote was. So we just fought harder.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. i have always thought of the "demonization and constriction" of

mail-ins as it relates to lowering his vote. But you made me think - what effect did it have on our side? I totally applaud those organizers who powered through his bs and realized the power we had to increase our vote with mail-ins.

And we probably could have gotten a lot more votes IF some people hadn't fallen for his bs.

Personally, I concluded that there was more risk doing a mail-in (thinking he had something up his sleeve) than to mask up and early vote in person. So very happy I was wrong about that.

Another thing he underestimated was how so many if us were in a "walk on broken glass" mode to vote against him.

[tanyev]

22. Oh, yes. My #1 goal with Covid was to stay alive and healthy until I cast my vote.

I felt a great sense of relief when that was done. Now my next goal is to stay alive and healthy until that jackass is out of the White House.

[murielm99]

47. Those were and are my goals, too.

It will be a lot harder to make it through the winter. We will stay home as much as possible.

[True Blue American]

13. We should include

All the younger voters who decided this is our life and we are not going to take it any more. Young people voted this year. Funny how most of them know a con when they see one.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Yes. Made me think about that time they signed up for his rally to punk him. nt

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[certainot]

40. the cons have been skimming votes for years enough to win a lot of elections and

while they might have told him it was in the bag they weren't going to give him details, knowing he'd sell them out if needed

guys like rove and mcconnel might have some details but rudy has none and would expose their own cheating if he did

bedfore the next elections dems have to have total election investigation and pass comprehensive election machinery redo and fuck the cost

[c-rational]

46. +1 Completely agree. I do believe the dUmpster cheated and he cannot believe he did not get

away with it. the reThuglicans have been cheating since 2000 and they know going to paper ballots and mail in voting is their death knell. This is why McTurtle will not let the Voting Rights Act get to the floor. In my heart I do not believe more people voted for this POS in 2020 than in 2016.

[BobTheSubgenius]

53. I can't believe that, either.

But perhaps there is actually a suggestion of the GOP's attempt to steal it, and it might lie in the fact that they made gains in the House and held the Senate.

I was positive that there would be more D's in Congress and these results belie that.

[c-rational]

73. Valid points that I did not think of but pass the gut check. I would love to see a forensic

accounting but doubt that is possible.

[LizBeth]

66. The increase in the youth vote was a joy, and the Native American vote and the Asian vote and even

the increase in the educated white male vote.

[StarfishSaver]

68. True

But the overwhelming turnout of African Americans in the face of unprecedented voter suppression efforts targeted directly at us by the highest levels of government is what I'm applauding right now.

[LizBeth]

70. "unprecedented voter suppression efforts" target at so many on the left. The black community, yes.

The urban, the youth also. The Hispanic groups are having issues also. Yes, I applaud the efforts of the black community in uniting to as one take down trump and was a joy to watch, and still is as we eye Georgia.

[StarfishSaver]

74. Not the same

You probably don't mean it that way, but it's a little frustrating having comments praising the strength and dedication of Black voters responded to with "Don't forget everybody else, too!"

[LizBeth]

75. The tone has got to be inclusive. It must be collective. for me. I am sorry I frustrate. Because to

me, whether intentional or not it is exclusive and I don't want that. I think we have to see (visually) Democrats as all of us, right now. I believe that strongly. Aoc's, our youth vote are feeling ways. I am saying the same there. We have to see a whole.

The world.

[StarfishSaver]

76. Tone policing AND "ALL voters matter!" all wrapped up in one post.

Gotcha ...

[LizBeth]

77. I speak from my heart of inclusive, collective and you criticize with tone policing which is saying,

I am being racist for expressing collective. Ok. I can do nothing about how you interpret my words.

[StarfishSaver]

78. You say what the tone should be and when I call you on it, you accuse me of calling you racist

Interesting.

Bye ..

[LizBeth]

82. I am just not going to be combative with you.

[North Shore Chicago]

5. Absolutely this!

The vain dumpster is not able to accomplish ANYTHING without cheating! He is not good at anything but cheating. Thank goodness his ineptitude is large.

[malaise]

7. +1,000

GOTV outwitted King Con the Killa

[edhopper]

8. Did he flip votes

or add votes?
How does this align with down ballot voting?
Seems that many votes would leave a trail.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Mystery for sure. Remember reading that Karl Rove said

it was easy to flip if the preelection poll was within 3 pts. That was from a GOP whistleblower.

Been meaning to read up on Dominion machines. How does GOP know its easy to flip votes on them ? another trump "tell?"

So much doesn't make sense. Think there were like 145 polls during the two weeks before the election. Only 14 had trump where he ended up, or close to it, the rest had him losing much worse. People attribute that to hidden trump vote. I say that's bullshit. Not likely that that many polls, by that many pollsters are all wrong.

[KPN]

32. I think your suspicions are warranted. It would be fantastic if there were

investigations into this “mystery” and even more fantastic to prove it, but that’s probably just fantasy.

[robbob]

52. And in so many places!

To get 1-2 states wrong is a statistical likelihood. But almost ALL the states underperformed for Biden. I’d like to know how many votes the USPS never even delivered, just one of the many things the GOP did to suppress the vote.

[ampm]

64. It was the mail in ballots that was where he lost.

It was a setup and now we wonder how much did he really lose by and now what will happen to dejoy

[Laura PourMeADrink]

92. Wish i still had my notes. i took all the polls from two week

period before election. think it was 79% - 79% of the polls had Biden between 51 and a couple highs of 56% - 57%

need to look at all those again for frequency. On a whole though, polls were more accurate for Biden than trump.

[uponit7771]

79. No looking at his percentages in red areas he most likely added them.

Adding votes that are corresponding to voter rolls is easier than flipping them

[NCjack]

10. I think that DEMs were cheated in Texas.

[GoCubsGo]

14. Texas was the tip of the ice berg.

I have little doubt they cheated in multiple states. I

[Nimble_Idea]

31. kentucky

for real!!

[GoCubsGo]

33. South Carolina, too, for that matter.

And, almost certainly Florida an Ohio.

[LizBeth]

67. I think Texas but I agree Florida was a big one. With both machines and hiding ballots at PO

[lark]

12. Yep, I believe it.

Because he knew the post office wouldn't deliver a lot of the mail and I think this is what he thought was his ace in the hole.

[exboyfil]

18. Judge Sullivan

And a great information campaign to stop mail ins in the danger window. That is what worries me about Georgia run offs.

[Hotler]

16. "cheating for jesus." I like that saying. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. snapped in red state neighborhood

[Wounded Bear]

24. Trump was exactly the kind of people Jesus kicked out of the Temple...

[ssgbryan]

62. There are a LOT of those

here in Dumbfuckistan (Tn).

[MontanaMama]

25. He was cheating for Jesus...

So I guess that makes it okay.

[bucolic_frolic]

26. There it is.

The simplest most comprehensive explanation is always, in my view, the truth.

And it confirms whatever occurred in 2016.

As was said often, too big to rig, too real to steal.

Which explains what happened in Congressional races too.

[NewJeffCT]

28. Yes - when he says that Biden rigged the election with 7 million extra votes

he's projecting his own confession onto what happened.

[sandensea]

57. +1

The touch screens especially are full of back doors, read-and-write software, and easily hacked modems.

Bush knew what he was doing with the Help America Vote Republican Act - and the Diebolds and Uroseviches were only too happy to help.

[mountain grammy]

29. Exactly

[Nimble_Idea]

30. 🍇Rudy!!

Sour! salty maga tasting

[paleotn]

34. Since Karl Rove was running campaigns....

We have to out vote the cheat. Turn out in such levels that the Repukes would have to go full on Saddam Hussein to win.

[sandensea]

59. Exactly. Just like 2012 - when his Chattanooga servers couldn't out-flip the Ohio vote

Hence his conniption that night.

[rocktivity]

35. What Trump hadn't anticipated

was there not being enough blue votes to flip by machine.




rocktivity

[Kid Berwyn]

36. Dumpy sure seems surprised.

Hard to fake that genuine shock which comes when things don’t go as planned.

Musta thought Dominion owed him something.

[speaknow]

37. That is a very good chance

But I do believe it the So Carolina Senate
race was rigged. Harrison was neck and neck with
Graham to the point Graham was begging for help
then the final week Graham got so confident he
was going to win,. Why the change? Harrison was
48% Graham was 48% in the end Harrison got
43% Graham got like 52% How did Harrison's
number drop so much. Did Graham make a
call like he did in Georgia. Sure looks like the
fix was in.

[BMW2020RT]

38. Based on his actions leading up to election day, Mr. Trump surely put his thumb on the scale.

What he didn't know is he needed more than just a thumb.

[gab13by13]

39. It's easy to rig voting machines,

just pre-program them to flip 3% - 4%. We don't even know who really owns our voting machines. From what I understand the machines can't be inspected because the companies claim proprietary rights on their software.

Also, recounts will only show what the machines already did. All they can find with recounts is a small amount of human error.

I still believe that is a big reason why we won, we went to paper ballots. That is why Trump kept saying that mail in voting was crooked, and why he fucked up the post office, he did it to get people to use the crooked machines but because he lies so much people still voted mail in.

I did in Pa. and you can track when you are getting your ballot, can track when the county election office got the ballot and when it was recorded. It is a heck of a lot harder to cheat using mail in ballots. I believe that.

[BMW2020RT]

45. This year was the first time I used a voting machine that produced a paper ballot too.

I looked it over before submitting it to ensure it recorded my vote as intended. I like that.

[gab13by13]

49. Yip, I have been voting for 10 years into a black hole,

Every time I voted I asked for a paper receipt and was never given one.

[uponit7771]

80. It's even easier than that they can add votes to relative to voter rolls versus flipping them

[elleng]

41. Yes, he miscalculated,

and he thinks he was out-cheated!

[gab13by13]

42. Want some proof for my above post?

Watch Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin that are controlled by Republicans do away with mail in voting for 2022.

[uponit7771]

44. Trumps cheating included: 1. blackmailing Ukrainians, 2. depleting USPS, 3. encouraging supporters..

... to vote twice.

This itself is horrid

[Nitram]

48. This is exactly true!

[sandensea]

54. Touch-screen voting: Repugs control those

Many of them are still from the Diebold/Urosevich era - rabid right-wingers.

Full of back doors and read-and-write software. Bush knew what he was doing with the Help America Vote Republican Act.

[greenjar_01]

55. There is no election rigging, vote counts are accurate

We really should stop participating in profoundly stupid and self-defeating attempts to reduce confidence in our voting systems.

There is certainly gerrymandering and voter suppression, but there is no significant voter fraud or count rigging.

[Miles Archer]

56. That's really the perfect Cliffs Notes version

It's simple. Trump announced his attentions, telegraphed his punches, did everything in plain sight, American voters understood what he was attempting, and turned out in record numbers.

When the multitude of books are written on the 2020 election, they will all arrive at that one, single conclusion.

[Mr. Ected]

58. Trump, insulated from the truth in his comfortable RW echo chamber

Wholly underestimated the extent to which the American people despise him. He spent 4 years surrounded by yes men and news organizations that sang his praises. He became complacent in his fake news world.

If you live in a cave for 4 years and step outside for a moment, the light can be blinding.

[usaf-vet]

63. EXACTLY! It worked in 2016 they planned a tweak for 2020. The republicans have been stealing......

..... elections since the false flag hanging chads in Florida in 2000. They knew that the population numbers are NOT in their favor so, their answer, voter fraud, voter ID, gerrymandering, voter suppression, eliminating voting places and machines, purging voter rolls. But most important computerized voting.

The crazy women citing Venezuela software and machines was IMO voicing a half-truth. The half she had right is computerized voting CAN manipulate the final numbers (flip numbers). The part she HAD WRONG is it wasn't Biden who was cheating it WAS TRUMP but they miscalculated the 10 million unexpected votes. If you LISTEN to tRump he ALWAYS blames his opponents for doing what he is actually doing.

You need to
1. flip within the margin of error (as to not send up red flags).

2. You need to discount exit polling and polling in general (The Drudge Report on the eve of the 2000 election published a headline in a big red font. DON'T TRUST THE EXIT POLLS!)

3. The TOTAL number of votes in a precinct CANNOT exceed the number of people who ACTUALLY VOTED (Another red flag)

Example: 1000 persons voted in a precinct the margin of error is 3-5%. So candidate A can lose 30-50 votes while candidate B can gain 30-50 votes making them gain an advantage. Which when added to other precincts can alter the outcome.

PAPER BALLOTS! We are now 27 days after the voting and tRump still insists he won. SO if it takes 10 days to count the votes so what we would have an audible record to prove actual votes.

[sellitman]

65. I wonder whether the down votes are real.

Did all these Senate and House votes really go Red?

There should be an investigation.

[Grammy23]

81. He cheated alright. Just not enough

to overcome the number of voters who were sick of him and ready to vote him out. Fairly.

He just underestimated how much to cheat so he’d win.

Well, boo hoo. Get over it and get your nasty ass and rude family out of the White House. You lost.

[treestar]

83. Yes! And only Dump would have the nerve to

whine about being outplayed at his own game (insofar as he believes).

[NurseJackie]

86. I had thought this as well, but I didn't say anything because it sounded too crazy.

[KewlKat]

87. My spouse and I have discussed this as well, since the conman was so certain there was fraud...he

went to bed expecting the win only to wake up and realize they didn't steal or suppress enough votes. Why would he fight so hard to prove fraud to change the outsome? Was he also expecting someone to help on that end as well on the recounts?

[Josiesdad]

88. I suspect it is even more sinister than Mr Dean's analysis suggests

My guess (for which I have seen absolutely NO evidence) is that not only was Trump told ahead of time that "the fix was in" and the election was sewed up. But, knowing Trump, the best method that Donald's co-conspirators could use to sell him on the fact that he had a sure thing was to actually take money from him and outline the broad brush strokes describing what his money is going to buy him.

If you look at how he has reacted since then, his level of denial really appears to be much deeper than what one would expect to see from a President that just lost an election. On the contrary, he is acting as if he was actually cheated out of something. He is acting as if he was sold a bill of goods and he is just incredulous that his trusted conspirators cheated him. As he complains and vents and fumes he is smart enough to know that he cannot vocalize the details of his actual frustration. So, he constructs a word salad that is made up of all the promises and various ways that they told him he was going to be able to put his thumb on the scales and then projects his "plans" on the Democrats.

In other words, Donald was played. He was cheated. He was conned out of a great deal of money. And there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. It is no wonder he is frustrated.

(in a couple of years, this might be a good story to make into a movie.)

[leftyladyfrommo]

89. Wrecking the USPS didn't work as well hr hoped.

And Dems were way more motivated than he expected.

[StarfishSaver]

91. They weren't expecting the NAACP to sue the pants of them

And certainly weren't expecting to get a judge like Emmett Sullivan who forced them to deliver absentee ballots no matter what "reforms" they put into place.