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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:27 PM Oct 2012

Wait--I get it. Rev. Wright Tape and Romney Extreme Lies and Goading---Provoking Angry Black Man.

The Repuke strategy---Romney's lies, even suggesting that Obama was corrupt in giving money to energy contributors.....

Coupled with those fools Carlson and Hannity.....and a new Rev. Wright tape.

They thought they were going to get Angry Black Man.

And I mean, Romney tried. He tried to bait the President. And every single time, President Obama didn't take up the gauntlet.

Look back over the debate--Romney kept baiting, and baiting. And Obama took it. He ignored the jabs, and he took that bastard to a draw without breaking a sweat.

But it ain't over. It's an early round.



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Wait--I get it. Rev. Wright Tape and Romney Extreme Lies and Goading---Provoking Angry Black Man. (Original Post) msanthrope Oct 2012 OP
Sure hope its rope a dope C_U_L8R Oct 2012 #1
Ali didn't 'til the 8th in the Rumble. He made Foreman chase and punch. msanthrope Oct 2012 #4
chill Sedona Oct 2012 #2
Long five weeks. Time to get to work. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #17
Well said awake Oct 2012 #3
Relentlessly. And back Ryan into a corner for the VP debate. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #5
I suspect the Truth Team is pulling an all-nighter tonight. n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #8
It's gonna be about boxing Ryan in. Biden can say things Obama can't. msanthrope Oct 2012 #13
Yep yep ...n/t DaDeacon Oct 2012 #27
that is right. the whole romney intent was to get just that. i forgot. thanks nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #6
Angry Black Man makes it easier for Ryan next week. That's why Obama didn't take the bait. Biden msanthrope Oct 2012 #9
yup. he really had to stay away from the goading. and the few scowls i guess blossomed seabeyond Oct 2012 #16
They wanted him to challenge Romney so Romney could deliver his 'zingers' in response.... msanthrope Oct 2012 #19
I think you're right... tallahasseedem Oct 2012 #7
The more important debate is the VP one--and Obama got the voucher issue in. msanthrope Oct 2012 #11
I said the same to a friend, you knew 'angry black man' wasn't too far from SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #10
The zingers were all going to be in response to Angry Black Man. That why Romney had none....nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #12
Yep, my thoughts exactly. He didn't give them what they had set up. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #14
It's about boxing Ryan in. The VP debate will be the one seniors watch, because Ryan is msanthrope Oct 2012 #15
I came to that realization, too, after I turned off the TV Politicub Oct 2012 #20
He's got two more of these. And the Ryan/Biden debate. Long Ball. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #24
He kept his focus on the long term and on his accomplishments and plans. gkhouston Oct 2012 #39
That's entirely what I walked away with: Romney, the smarmy boss from hell. hunter Oct 2012 #44
I felt like Mitt was so small when he blew the Solyandra dog whistle Politicub Oct 2012 #18
Well--the whole "You gave 90 billion to green jobs" and "you want to cut military spending" angles-- msanthrope Oct 2012 #22
Exactly. He always has to guard against giving them ANY ammunition kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #21
I don't think it's coincidence that the 'new' tape got released today. msanthrope Oct 2012 #23
Yep. This has been way overblown, really. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #25
YES, you are starting to see the long game.... DaDeacon Oct 2012 #26
He got a draw without breaking a sweat. And he got Romney to talk and talk--- msanthrope Oct 2012 #37
this is always an issue treestar Oct 2012 #28
It would be Angry Black Man 24/7 on Fox News, and every other MSM outlet. The focus would be on msanthrope Oct 2012 #29
It would be played the way the Dean scream was played: first it would be mischaracterized, tblue37 Oct 2012 #31
That's a Bingo! nt MrScorpio Oct 2012 #30
I think you're on to something BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #32
And that's the point--get it out there, but you don't challenge a bully in a format like that. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #35
Tweets.. Cha Oct 2012 #33
I know that's right..... FrenchieCat Oct 2012 #34
Well, crapping on ourselves and PBO is an art form, here. Got to have that, or it wouldn't be fun. msanthrope Oct 2012 #36
Maybe ABM is what America WANTS from Obama! We sure did when Osama Bin Laden was killed! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #38
Well, that was ABM at a terrorist. That's different. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #41
Yes. That's why he kept looking down - he probably wanted to let the asshole have it. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #40
Of course. And Ann Romney's disgraceful behavior DevonRex Oct 2012 #42
Her Majesty's back was to the President, was it not? nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #43
Yes it was, as were her children's. DevonRex Oct 2012 #48
And Sununnu today...Obama 'not bright' and 'lazy.' nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #45
This post is from yesterday and it seems to be pretty good post-debate analysis Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #46
If you take the Rev. Wright tapes, the Romney baiting, and the Sunnunu comments---this is not a msanthrope Oct 2012 #47
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
4. Ali didn't 'til the 8th in the Rumble. He made Foreman chase and punch.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:31 PM
Oct 2012

Remember, VP debate is up next.

And Mitt has to look statesmanlike for the foreign policy debate.

awake

(3,226 posts)
3. Well said
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oct 2012

It will now be time for the Obama team to expose the lies over the next few days.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
13. It's gonna be about boxing Ryan in. Biden can say things Obama can't.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oct 2012

We got the voucher issue up. We can box Ryan in on what Mitt changed, and said.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
9. Angry Black Man makes it easier for Ryan next week. That's why Obama didn't take the bait. Biden
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:35 PM
Oct 2012

can wield the knife with a smile....'

And that stupid fucker Ryan will go in overconfident.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. yup. he really had to stay away from the goading. and the few scowls i guess blossomed
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:51 PM
Oct 2012

into a scowl all the way thru. the little i saw, i saw no scowl. but ya, they really really wanted angry from obama.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
19. They wanted him to challenge Romney so Romney could deliver his 'zingers' in response....
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:54 PM
Oct 2012

and Obama didn't let him.

And he let Mitt talk. Which isn't so good for Mitt.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
7. I think you're right...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:34 PM
Oct 2012

The President looked calm and collected, the OPPOSITE of what they have been portraying him. I think he did what he needed to do. Romney spouted off a lot of stuff tonight that can be used against him immediately.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. The more important debate is the VP one--and Obama got the voucher issue in.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:38 PM
Oct 2012

He also got Romney to make cerain stands regarding Ryan's budget, that Biden can pounce on.....

There's a reason no Bain, no 47%..

Oh..and where were the zingers???? The zingers were all going to be responses to Angry Black Man.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
10. I said the same to a friend, you knew 'angry black man' wasn't too far from
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oct 2012

Obama's thoughts and actions. I think they've always tried to think like a Republican and how they would react to and use certain sound bites.

I think someone is coaching his campaign on the scoundrels and how they think (maybe James Carville?)

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. The zingers were all going to be in response to Angry Black Man. That why Romney had none....nt
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:39 PM
Oct 2012

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
14. Yep, my thoughts exactly. He didn't give them what they had set up.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:44 PM
Oct 2012

Calm and presidential is what they got. Fact-checkers will do the attacking, followed by the commercials comparing all the positions Willard has taken.

Love it!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. It's about boxing Ryan in. The VP debate will be the one seniors watch, because Ryan is
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:46 PM
Oct 2012

the one with the voucher program.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
20. I came to that realization, too, after I turned off the TV
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:56 PM
Oct 2012

Our president has and always will keep his focus on the long term.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
39. He kept his focus on the long term and on his accomplishments and plans.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:55 AM
Oct 2012

Romney came across like the high-level boss from hell -- dishonest, uninformed, and overbearing. Not a good combination for a guy who's already fighting accusations that he's lying about his taxes and that he got rich sending American jobs overseas.

hunter

(40,687 posts)
44. That's entirely what I walked away with: Romney, the smarmy boss from hell.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:09 PM
Oct 2012

And my oh my, what a Mr. Shining White Heterosexual Male Romney was too...

I think that's what he meant to be, like the OP says, they'd prepped him for "Angry Black Man."

And they'd have done similar if Hillary Clinton was president, and tried to cast her as the "Strident B***h."

It was a total fuck-up for team Romney. Everyone who has ever suffered under a smarmy boss from hell, which is most of working class U.S.A., probably got that sick feeling in their stomach just looking at Romney -- Mr. Smarmy Boss from hell was serving up shit sandwiches again.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
18. I felt like Mitt was so small when he blew the Solyandra dog whistle
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:54 PM
Oct 2012

They've been flogging that on Fox News for more than a year.

He has no substance - just a con man's confidence.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
22. Well--the whole "You gave 90 billion to green jobs" and "you want to cut military spending" angles--
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:57 PM
Oct 2012

Mitt's forgetting---those are GOOD things. They appeal to our base, and to independents.

They are Fox dogwhistles, but he's supposed to have that base in the bag already.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
21. Exactly. He always has to guard against giving them ANY ammunition
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:57 PM
Oct 2012

for that racist stereotype.

It's a sad fact of American politics even today. But he's naturally cool, so it takes little effort to avoid trouble.

Meanwhile, Rmoney just gave the Dems a wonderful collection of video clips for ads.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
23. I don't think it's coincidence that the 'new' tape got released today.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:02 AM
Oct 2012

And I think Mitt talking over Lerher just put an enormous amount of pressure on the other moderators--they'd better do a better job.

 

DaDeacon

(984 posts)
26. YES, you are starting to see the long game....
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:39 AM
Oct 2012

damnn right it's a bishop/ knight press. Obama had to not lash out or be too forceful thus lose this debate. Had he went toe to toe then we would be talking about PBO the angry black. So lose this one let the facts be facts and next one shoot the gap as it will be a "must win"

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
37. He got a draw without breaking a sweat. And he got Romney to talk and talk---
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:09 AM
Oct 2012

there's not a single clip in there that shows Romney in a good light.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. this is always an issue
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:41 AM
Oct 2012

It was in 2008. Obama is calm and not "Angry black man" but people complain that Obama wasn't angry enough. At times I wonder - what would happen if Obama followed these people's advice? It might not be so great as they imagine.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
29. It would be Angry Black Man 24/7 on Fox News, and every other MSM outlet. The focus would be on
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:08 AM
Oct 2012

that and that alone.

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
31. It would be played the way the Dean scream was played: first it would be mischaracterized,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:43 AM
Oct 2012

and then it would be endlessly repeated.

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
32. I think you're on to something
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:46 AM
Oct 2012

but i also can't help but think now that the leaked tape was an attempt to shore up the base before he tried to swing moderate. Wromney said some things that are going to royally PISS OFF the TEA party.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
35. And that's the point--get it out there, but you don't challenge a bully in a format like that. nt
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:34 AM
Oct 2012

Cha

(319,057 posts)
33. Tweets..
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:03 AM
Oct 2012
Bobfr

@Our4thEstate @davidaxelrod

Some may already have awakened in a damp sweat realizing that #PBO pulled back the curtain on Mitt & it's ALL on YouTube.

Bobfr

@Our4thEstate #ObamaDebateExcuses ZERO.

He allowed Romney the opportunity to be a statesman. Romney, instead, was a BULLY LIAR & it's ALL ON YOUTUBE.


http://theobamadiary.com/

thanks for your thread, msanthrope

FrenchieCat

(68,868 posts)
34. I know that's right.....
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:17 AM
Oct 2012

Wish folks would initially try and analyze things more strategically,
instead of reacting like low information voters all of the damn time!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
36. Well, crapping on ourselves and PBO is an art form, here. Got to have that, or it wouldn't be fun.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:36 AM
Oct 2012

How you been, Frenchie???

Stick around.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
38. Maybe ABM is what America WANTS from Obama! We sure did when Osama Bin Laden was killed!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:11 AM
Oct 2012
 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
40. Yes. That's why he kept looking down - he probably wanted to let the asshole have it. n/t
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:57 AM
Oct 2012

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
42. Of course. And Ann Romney's disgraceful behavior
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:55 PM
Oct 2012

after the debate, snubbing the President and First Lady, is all part of it. That is how we know for sure. They overplayed their hand with that one.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
46. This post is from yesterday and it seems to be pretty good post-debate analysis
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:45 PM
Oct 2012

immediately after the debates finished.

This is exactly right. Romney was definitely trying to bait and Obama didn't fall for it.

It makes sense today especially with Sunnunnu's comments.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
47. If you take the Rev. Wright tapes, the Romney baiting, and the Sunnunu comments---this is not a
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:15 PM
Oct 2012

coincidence. This is a co-ordinated effort to shore up a repuke base that Romney doesn't have yet.

It's also racist dogwhistling at its finest.

Thank you---some of us DUers stay calm, like our President.

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