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To former Sanders staffers and allies, Tanden is one of the Democratic elites who helped sink his 2016 campaign behind the scenes.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN
11/30/2020 09:25 PM EST
Progressives have been able to live with most of Joe Bidens Cabinet picks.
But to many of Sen. Bernie Sanders staunchest supporters, Bidens decision to tap Hillary Clinton loyalist Neera Tanden to lead the Office of Management and Budget is just too much the equivalent of rubbing salt in the wound.
To former Sanders staffers and allies, Tanden is one of the Democratic elites who helped sink his 2016 campaign behind the scenes, not to mention a union-buster, a threat to Social Security, a hippie-puncher who constantly picks fights with the left, and much more.
I dont know anyone personally in Bernie world who is happy about this choice, said Briahna Joy Gray, Sanders former national press secretary. Were talking about a woman whos notorious for assaulting Bernie Sanders campaign manager.
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JoeOtterbein
(7,869 posts)...anything?
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)She is not a democrat. Why should democrats care what she thinks?
doc03
(39,086 posts)Dem2
(8,178 posts)Seems somewhat hilarious to me.
elleng
(141,926 posts)Fine with me.
DURHAM D
(33,054 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,538 posts)she must be a good choice.
Budi
(15,325 posts)They're now mad at Sen Warren, Rep Barbara Lee & anyone who has endorsed Tanden.
So what else is new?
LAS14
(15,506 posts)TIA
LAS
Wounded Bear
(64,328 posts)sheshe2
(97,637 posts)This is 2020.
JoeOtterbein
(7,869 posts)...anything in the past?
betsuni
(29,078 posts)2016 isn't the past?
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)The answer is right there in the byline and continues in the excerpts.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)in the general have the blood of thousands of Americans on their hands, separated children at the border, economic collapse which will lead to starvation and homelessness of millions of Americas and now an attempted coup. One could say that 'Bernie world (stupid term if you ask me) helped elect Trump so I honestly don't care what they think.
I look at the electoral map and wonder how they think if we follow their 'ideas' how we would ever hold majorities. We need a 50 state strategy and a big tent...everyone has a place in the big tent but no one faction gets to call the shots. And I object to their attacking of our President-elect before he even take office...make me care less what they say. I never read Politico and avoid the author of this piece like the plague... will trash the thread after this reply.
George II
(67,782 posts)Here it is again:
But here's an interesting fact, when several people run for the same nomination, one is going to win and the others are not, essentially their campaigns have been "sunk", in part by everyone who worked for or endorsed the winning candidate. Does that put them on some kind of black list for the rest of his/her life? Are they to be forever shunned?
frazzled
(18,402 posts)that there is a thing called Bernie world.
Really, theres a universe of Bernieness that exists outside of the rest of reality? Sounds a bit like a cult to me.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)I have little doubt that Democrats who supported Sanders supported our nominee as for the rest, they will find some excuse not to vote Democratic and then wonder why they have less influence than they wish they did.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)The first two signal shit-stirring. The last 3 are self-explanatory.
George II
(67,782 posts)Referring to members of our party like republicans do is not helpful at all. The only difference is republicans would call them "Democrat Elites". This is really getting old already.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)There's one Politico writer who truly needs to explore finding productive and healthy ways to move beyond the bitterness and disappointment of the fact that her candidate was rejected by the voters (not just once, but twice). She has had plenty of time to let the facts soak-in and for her sorrow and dismay to subside. Rather than sprinkling gasoline on the fire... rather than continually picking scabs and pouring salt into the wounds... rather than MAKING THINGS WORSE, her time would be better spent with articles of why it's crucial to STOP TRYING TO KNEECAP Biden with the continual whining and nitpicking. Her dime-a-word essays (if she's lucky) should be focused on helping others to accept reality and to move on from their primary losses.
George II
(67,782 posts)Have we seen a single positive word about any of the 26 others from this writer? Unless I missed it, no. But that reporter sure did zero in on one of those named in a New York minute to criticize Biden's choice.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Also in my opinion, in spite of her far-left idealism... her current efforts only serve to hinder, weaken, and slow the progress that the Biden Administration seeks to accomplish. It's clear that she's still fighting the 2016 and 2020 primaries, and hasn't accepted the fact that her favorite candidate isn't the choice. So, now... out of bitterness and spite, I've concluded that she wants to use her position at Politico as a platform NOT for progress, but for revenge. It's just petty and childish for anyone to try an deny Biden the opportunity to do the job he was elected to do. It's my belief that if she genuinely wanted to help our nation achieve at least SOME of the progressive objectives (or to make meaningful in-roads) that she'd (as an activist) would be doing everything possible to HELP Joe Biden... or to help other bitter and disappointed leftists to accept reality. As it stands now, her ego and vanity won't let her do that. It's all about hurting and weakening Biden. It's about kneecapping him before he's even taken the oath of office. That's the short-sighted "burn it down to start over" philosophy of treacherous "revolutionaries" who's rather destroy than build. All she can do is whine, whine, whine... she's just another juicebox revolutionary, in my opinion.
(These are my opinions and criticisms about someone who writes for Politico, a person in the public-eye. Others may have different opinions, but these are my views.)
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I can't stand that woman. She's not a reporter, she's an activist... but even as an activist, she's a rather POOR excuse for one. If she truly wanted to promote a progressive agenda and make SOME progress (even if it isn't being done by her political idol) then she'd be typing her fingers to the bone trying to unify other disappointed leftists into helping and supporting Biden.
Instead she's constantly trying to kneecap Biden (even before he's sworn-in) and HINDER any progress that would be made for the progressive causes she (and they) care most about. Once again we see her truly bizarre but holier-than-thou purity-brigade philosophy that takes such pride in the "all or nothing" attitude. It's clear to me that people like her would rather have NOTHING and complain loudly about it, rather than to swallow their pride and work to make SOME progress.
After all, the "incremental progress" that they hate is still PROGRESS! Right? These juicebox revolutionaries always want it now! Instantly. How fortunate they are to have the luxury of time on their side (among other luxuries). Meanwhile, true leaders like Biden must fight BOTH the Republicans AND the attacks, smears and distractions from the far left.
Honestly, what good purpose does it serve? As an activist, she should stop whining and use her platform for good, rather than for harm. It's time to rally the far left. It's an all-hands-on-deck moment... and we have people like this wretched woman refusing to help and standing in everyone else's way.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)betsuni
(29,078 posts)Elites. Hillary Clinton (OMG LOCK HER UP). ENEMIES BEHIND THE SCENES WITH CANAPES. Social Security, unions, "hippie-puncher" LOL.
JI7
(93,617 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)you'd have enjoyed having to threaten to toss your representatives out of office every time Legislating President Sanders called on you to force congress to pass his grand plans.
How long until it seemed easier to just got rid of a congress whose functions were already mostly usurped? Or, in the real world, wouldn't the hoards of millions of activist citizens needed to frighten congress into compliance have failed to materialize even once? I'd think finding oneself a force of 1 or 5 here and there would have been demoralizing fast.
This bizarrely magical and shockingly anti-democracy thinking, btw, is all right from the horse's mouth: Sanders himself, 2019-20 primary. He was explaining to the NYT editorial board how you'd force congress to do what he wanted as president, like trash the ACA congress created and start from scratch on "MfA." And all his other promises.
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)One cannot demand when one has not been a part of Joe Biden's victory.
Bernie world's stars like Cenk, Nina, David and Brie Brie openly criticized Joe Biden.
Bernie world's congress persons refused to endorse Joe Biden.
One person said they wouldn't be in the same party as Joe Biden.
And .... Bernie is still not a Democrat. He should become a Democrat first before his world starts making demands.
On the other hand, The Lincoln Project helped Biden immensely and has not made any demands whatsoever.
JI7
(93,617 posts)including in the Primary when he beat Sanders in them.
But considering they are actually members of congress they could focus on trying to get support for legislation from other members and to the President's desk to sign . BUt all of that is very hard work and I guess boring.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)sheshe2
(97,637 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....can I travel to visit this so-called "Bernie World"?
I've been to "Disney World", saw a movie about "Wally World", never been to "Bernie World".
sheshe2
(97,637 posts)-Beatles.
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)Get the fuck over it. Losers dont get to pick.
Joe won the election.
Bernie World, lol. Is that anything like Wally World?
Yeehah
(6,486 posts)Goddamn commie!
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)Yeehah
(6,486 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... not going to accept cuts to SS.
Some people just like to stir crap
Yeehah
(6,486 posts)actually should make people feel more secure that social security is safe?
Is that really what you mean?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Accepting discussions of different POVs while crafting policy is however, by its very definition and nature, part of policy.
George II
(67,782 posts)JI7
(93,617 posts)betsuni
(29,078 posts)Fight? How?
mackdaddy
(1,976 posts)Does that mean that Bernie world is not happy with Bernie?
I keep getting confused at who I am supposed to not like...
ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)😩😩😩😩
Also, What the actual fuck is this right here?
Jesus.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Bernie lost. Biden won. He gets to pick his cabinet. Get over it.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Fixed it.
Omaha Steve
(109,234 posts)That makes her a no go in my book!
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She would not be MAKING policy decisions... that's Biden's job. She would be responsible for overseeing and implementing Biden's vision and agenda. Joe Biden is entitled to choose the people he wants to working for him.
Omaha Steve
(109,234 posts)Unless labor or AARP etc. starts sounding an alarm I'll live with it.
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)he will put aside childish squabbles and vote to let President Biden have his team.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)as the wingers? Do they want this association?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... cannot be handled or accepted in a mature way. Instead, it's all about the efforts to kneecap Biden even before he's been sworn-in.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Garumph, garumph garumph. And what exactly did Neera do to stop his campaign? As far as I can tell he pulled in buckets of money and did pretty well for someone who had never been front and center before. I don't think some understand how close to the edge we came and there is a lot of 'setting right' to be done before we can step into the future.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)But something tells me that's not the whole story.
Yeehah
(6,486 posts)Wow.
sheshe2
(97,637 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)I'm not talking about social fucking security.
kwolf68
(8,452 posts)So it's obviously a great choice. /sarcasm
And of course people only don't like her because she is a women of color. Brother oh brother. Maybe people don't like her because her policies are shit. Could care less about her freaking demographics.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)criticizes and pushes the Democratic Party for more action. They're not socialist revolutionaries, though, believing in using democracy and capitalism to advance society. Sounds like an inappropriate target for death threats from people who proudly labeled themselves "Progressives," doesn't it?
Bernie Sanders took a real dislike to her in 2016, though -- and thus his noisy followers hated her then and still do -- because her progressive group, CAP, didn't support him. They also had the nerve, as it turns out unforgivably, to criticize some Sanders hypocrisy in their journal.
Kind of a severe reaction for what doesn't sound like much (and really, really wasn't), but remember how well he took Planned Parenthood's refusal to endorse him.
Tanden is only one of many names Sanders' aggressive populists react to the exact same way Trump's collection reacts to those their leader turns them against.
Oh, and she once called them "crazy leftists." Had to look that one up, knew there was something.
That strikes me as very mild given Sanders' own actions, contempt for today's progressivism in government and willingness to destroy it, and the many unleashed behaviors of his "revolutionaries" so outrageous they were reported in the media,
But especially considering the constant barrage of vitriol and death threats the scum of the Sanders "movement" aimed at her and her organization. And still do.