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Kaleva

(40,455 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:30 PM Dec 2020

Is it possible to reach the urban dwelling Repub/Trump voter? Or are they too far gone?

22 out of Michigan's 83 counties are classified as urban as defined by the US Census Bureau.

In the recent election, Trump got 2,649,852 votes in the state. 73% of those votes, 1,945,543, came from the 22 urban counties. In Wayne County alone, Detroit and surrounding suburbs, Trump got 263,863 votes.

In the rural counties, Trump got anywhere from the high 50% to 70% of the vote in each county and even higher in a few but that translated to 11,546 votes, per rural county. In the urban counties, Trump got anywhere from 30% to the low 50% range of the vote and that translates to an average of 88,472 voters per urban county.

Because of the numbers, there really isn't much point, IMHO, in trying to increase our share of the vote in rural areas because they lack the numbers. The real fight is in the urban counties and it'd be much more productive for us to increase our share of the vote there by 1-2% then it would be to do the same in rural counties. We'd have to increase our share of the vote in rural counties by 20%-30% to have some impact and think of the compromises we'd have to make to achieve that.

In order to do this, increasing the turnout of our base in the urban counties, and our base is a big tent, would be the way to go as it'd be very hard to convert a standard, run of the mill Repub and many of the Trumpsters are just too far out of reach.

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Bettie

(19,939 posts)
2. Jobs with good pay and benefits
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:37 PM
Dec 2020

that's what they have lost since Reagan especially in that area of the country.

rurallib

(64,871 posts)
3. IMHO yje problem is that their view of what is real is far different than reality
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:44 PM
Dec 2020

Trying to talk to someone who has a totally different reality is hard to do. There needs to be some common starting place.
I think if you get by that barrier, then yes it would be possible to reach them.

Sadly many of these folks only face reality when they face some loss due to their unreal views of the world. That has happened a lot when family, friends and neighbors are dying from what they believe is a hoax.

uponit7771

(93,533 posts)
4. Yes, most of Trump voters have single sourced info input and no other perspectives on issues. The ..
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:46 PM
Dec 2020

... rest are truly racist assholes who have found a true voice and verification in Trumps thinking.

Kaleva

(40,455 posts)
5. A point I was trying to make is that there is little to gain by reaching out to rural voters
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 04:28 AM
Dec 2020

There aren't enough of us to matter. The fight is in the populated urban counties.

The other point I'm trying to make is that for Trump himself, the majority of support he got, in Michigan, came from urban counties.

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