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Former President Obama suggests in a new interview that the Democratic Party should give younger voices like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) a bigger platform regardless of ideology.
The Democratic National Convention I thought was really successful considering the pandemic, and really used technology wisely, Obama said in an interview with Vanity Fair contributor Peter Hamby for his Snapchat show "Good Luck America."
But, you know, the fact that an AOC only got, what? Three minutes or five minutes? When she speaks to a broad section of young people who are interested in what she has to say, even if they dont agree with everything she says, Obama continued. You give her a platform, just like there may be some other young Democrats who come from more conservative areas who have a different point of view. But new blood is always good.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/528329-obama-says-democrats-should-make-sure-ocasio-cortez-has-a-platform
Maven
(10,533 posts)AOC is a wizard at messaging and she brings an energy to the party that is vital. The fact that she is such a lightning rod for conservatives proves that. Dems would be fools not to give her a bigger platform.
iluvtennis
(19,874 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)Examples.
canetoad
(17,190 posts)And don't ask them to dig around and provide links.
I think you'll find that a large percentage of DU respects and admires AOC's way with words, her passion, her ability to connect to working people.
I certainly do and hope that her future is a bright one, because her heart is in the right place.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)to ask for proof when somebody makes a claim. If somebody is "great" at something it's usually not very hard to prove it.
She's really great at saying things that people who already love her like to hear.
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Bettie
(16,126 posts)sit down and shut up to give more time to the Kasich types.
BComplex
(8,066 posts)a better tent, not just a bigger tent, for having people like Bernie and AOC in our corner. They speak for millions of Americans, just like the middle of the party speaks for millions of Americans.
DownriverDem
(6,231 posts)am so glad they are members of the Democratic Party of which I am a proud member too. (Except Bernie of course)
stopdiggin
(11,370 posts)of the finest "elder" statesman that this country has seen in two generations. People should spend more time on what he says -- less on trying to score points for this faction or that.
radius777
(3,635 posts)in the leadership. Politics is not just about ideology, but about perspective, and our perspective is overly dominated by Baby Boomers who tend to be culturally conservative and conflict avoidant relative to the younger generations, ie those who came of age in the post-modern era (gen-x, gen-y/millennials) who tend to favor a more bold and unapologetic approach.
Magoo48
(4,720 posts)ansible
(1,718 posts)niyad
(113,581 posts)people stepping forth.to continue this battle. Not that I am giving up, hell no! But reassuring to know that there are many to take up our batons as needed.
burrowowl
(17,648 posts)Hip, Hip, Hurrah for the young ones!
wnylib
(21,611 posts)will die out without young people to keep it going into thecfuture.
Muriel
(16 posts)Politicians in any party have always been co-opted to a degree by big money. The base has usually been disappointed at what happens nationally.
radius777
(3,635 posts)but about perspective, and generations tend to see the world differently.
For example Buttigieg, Beto, Abrams etc are centrists but take a more hard hitting approach, don't come across as afraid of their own shadow. They defend the base (instead of running away from it like our Boomer leadership tends to) because they understand that we need to reject Repub framing and that both wings (both the left and centrists) need to be united in order for the party to succeed.
Muriel
(16 posts)Like who? Feinstein? Defend the base? What needs defending? Your answers are vague and not specific.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)"Finally, someone who agrees with what I've been saying for decades." Especially, The Green New Deal. I've always been a Futurist, but the future's been getting steadily darker since 1969.
Sorry, I've been replying a lot today because it's raining & I got nothing else to do.
betsuni
(25,638 posts)Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the White House, Al Gore has been talking about climate change since forever. It's not new.
Lonestarblue
(10,084 posts)Its time for people like Feinstein to retire. She has served for many years, but its time for those who are younger to start gaining experience. I think the House and the Senate need a mandatory retirement age, perhaps 75.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)to Obama. AOC draws the generation that needs to take over in the next decade and we have to make sure this happens!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Because they matter, and if she's a conduit for getting them involved in civic affairs, yes. Honorable and honest messages are worth spreading. As for the rest, my best guess is maybe one or two more terms before she's out of congress and working for some PAC.
Speaking of unfortunately vulnerable minds we can't protect from everything, I just did a drop in at the JP rabbit hole to see if we gained any points at all from the election. Sadly no, Dems, and War Criminal Biden, still serve corporate greed and everything else wrong with America. Spots of rationality are like sunbeams finding their way down, but Hillary Derangement still casts a heated orange glow over all when one of those lids is raised.
"AOC"'s stock has dropped with many. Her Manchin-style tightrope act isn't working for zealots who see only binary "us good, not us bad" possibilities. Others still see her as a shining lifeline. There's also some enthusiasm for President Harris, who some seem peculiarly sure has staged a coup and taken charge before he (she?) is even sworn in, while others expect a behind-scenes takeover from the senile (but still evil!) old prop later on.
The Progressives of the Peoples Party/Movement for a Peoples Party can begin its campaigning for the 2022 and 2024 Elections using Ads against war criminals that Joe surrounds himself with."
Hope lives on.
PatSeg
(47,603 posts)serving corporate greed? Sounds like a pretty unhealthy place to drop into. I wonder how many of them are real people and how many are Russian trolls and bots.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in 2015-16 and participating in normal conversations, but sought refuge there when they fled DU. Turns out people can become increasingly extremist, and so can whole groups, reinforcing each other's spiral farther and farther from reality. Fascinating, and shocking, and I've often wished I could read a paper on it to understand what I was watching. But it's why I take a peek in now and then, briefly and then right back out because it strikes me as unhealthy as hell.
Back then Sanders was telling them the kind of things Trump tells his followers, though, constant lies about corrupt corporatist Democrats stealing his elections, and of course they found endless political sewage and conspiracist nonsense on the web to bring back and marinate in. Hillary Derangement Syndrome was severe. When Sanders conceded, many were enraged at his betrayal, but some decided Hillary must have kidnapped the poor, sweet man and had him beaten into submission or threatened to murder his grandchildren.
These days Hillary is apparently into making giant "blood money" profits. Wherever she goes around the world pretending to do good, evil happens. It's not at all all about her, though. They seem familiar with various dastardly activities of whichever Democrats are in the news.
They don't all sound crazy on my very brief visits, but they hang together and I no longer think most will be coming back, any more than Trump's victims will. They know what they know. I'm sure your guess is right that Russia also cultivated and has continued to exploit them all along, both here and there. Why wouldn't they? And helpful bots are of course effectively free once set up.
PatSeg
(47,603 posts)and found it rather bizarre at the time. I somehow thought they'd faded away. Good reminder of what a truly horrible primary season that was. I saw some good friends at each other's throats for quite some time. I avoided the primary forum, because quite honestly, I had little preference for either candidate. I didn't realize until later that Russians were infiltrating our message boards and social media, stirring up trouble.
I have several friends, long time DUers, who left here for good, but fortunately they didn't get involved in the JP group. Some hard feelings persisted for awhile, but Donald Trump was the cure for that. Kind of a snake pit effect I think. A good reminder that all the off-the-wall crazy clearly has not just been on the right the past few years. The left has had its share as well, just not as many or as extreme.
We learned a lot about our vulnerabilities back then, but at least now we are aware of them. I read between the lines more and realize that not all antagonists are legitimate people.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Trump as a wake-up call for rationality and good sense. And a spotlight on how so many among us are drawn to bad leaders who can activate an unsuspected worst in them.
I'm segueing off here a bit (not calling the crowd at JR Nazis, just extremists untethered from truth, though posts suggest many could be drawn either way depending on the leader). But your comment reminds me of an article I was reading recently from the 1940s about people, awakened by the horrors in Europe, musing "who's the Nazi?" as they looked around and imagined the Third Reich coming to America. Once you knew what to look for,... To a far lesser degree now, and I'm also thinking of the Covid holocaust so many have been spreading out of political zealotry and spite, we are more aware now. And need to be.
Cheery topic for a sunny morning. A grocery clerk I'm sure as can be voted for Trump twice startled me by telling me to "stay safe" the other day. Something new.
PatSeg
(47,603 posts)We often get a much more simplified picture of how things were in the U.S. in the thirties and forties. We had fascists, communists, anarchists, and anti-war protesters, but books and movies tend to paint a much more unified vision of Americans during that time. The biggest difference between now and then is television and the Internet. Rumors and extremist conspiracy theories didn't spread as quickly, but they did exist. Oh yes, I can picture people speculating on "who's the Nazi?"
We tend to think so much of what we're witnessing is unprecedented, but I don't think it is. It is bigger and better publicized, but irrationality, paranoia, and outrageous conspiracy theories have been with us throughout our history. Perhaps it comes in cycles and this cycle is intensified by a truly whacky president and a once in a century pandemic.
It is sunny and lovely here as well. Last year on this day we had several inches of snow, so I'm grateful for sunshine and NO snow! After this past year, its best to count our blessings wherever we can find them!
"Stay safe!"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)informed public, a golden age of knowledge. and it has. Guessing political scientists and psychologists weren't all that surprised at the rest, just fascinated and appalled observers. Great era to be them. If only someone paid for mental healthcare to rescue people trapped in toxic bubbles, it'd be a golden age for counselors also.
I've always assumed most of it was excessive anxiety from galloping change exploited and cultivated by opportunistic scoundrels telling them what they want -- the name of an enemy to attack in a group to stop it. Just wish the target tp be taken out wasn't always evil liberal Democrats.
the constant access to information is a dream come true, but obviously that isn't the case for everyone. More like a nightmare I suppose. I guess the people who read the tabloid newspapers and watched Jerry Springer in the nineties, just got online and found even more outrageous crap. Like being addicted to junk food, you just can never get enough.
It really sucks that Democrats have been demonized to such an extreme. The brainwashed really believe we are the devil incarnate. Really strange, as Democrats tend to be the ones who care about other people. Sigh.
Have a good night!
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)I agree with about 95% of her stances.
Thanks, Obama!
Wounded Bear
(58,717 posts)Not ready to make her Speaker yet ( ), but the Party should allow her more air time and exposure.
murielm99
(30,765 posts)cost us House seats. She calls herself a Democratic Socialist and that is anathema in the Midwest. She is polarizing here. Republicans used that against us. Also, she wants to defund the police. Democrats don't want or need that. She has said these things, so it is hard to deny them.
AOC shoots off her mouth without thinking. For example, she spoke about how we had lost our majority in the House. That just is not so! We lost seats, not our majority.
She has a lot to learn before she gets more exposure.
The person who deserves more exposure is Lauren Underwood. She has leadership ability, and she is doing some real work. Also, she wins her elections in a district that leans Republican. AOC lives in a safe Democratic district. Both of Underwood's elections have been hard-fought and close. This tells me that she is winning people who might ordinarily vote for a Republican. Underwood is doing real things for her district, without seeking celebrity status.
PatrickforO
(14,592 posts)healthcare. That is true.
radius777
(3,635 posts)Nobody complains about Katie Porter seeking a higher profile.
Omar and Tlaib are from the Midwest and are demonized similarly to AOC.
murielm99
(30,765 posts)I don't see anyone demonizing her.
betsuni
(25,638 posts)"Bernie world seethes over Tanden as OMB nominee." Because she's an outspoke woman of color?
R B Garr
(16,979 posts)Katie Porter. She is in a league of her own, deservedly so.
questionseverything
(9,660 posts)I am from central Illinois and the Democrats I know love her
I dont want Democrats that repubs think are great
They would be too conservative for me
Bettie
(16,126 posts)(Midwest, rural area) starred Nancy Pelosi as the scary socialist!
PatrickforO
(14,592 posts)she makes sense.
radius777
(3,635 posts)which is a good thing. There are too many problems in this society - such as the policing issue - that have gone on for too long with both political parties being complicit. AOC calls it like it is and some people don't like it - too bad.
murielm99
(30,765 posts)but I have to GOTV in a rural red area. I know what my neighbors, who vote Democratic and lean Democratic, say about AOC.
Trumpers say they like the orange menace because he calls it like it is.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)But when she does it, she's "shooting off her mouth without thinking".
I . . . . Hmmmmmmmmmm.
murielm99
(30,765 posts)or what I meant. You are not worth my time. Goodbye.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)I'm worth EVERYONE's time, thanks. Punching left isn't a good look.
murielm99
(30,765 posts)Not gonna happen.
"B?"
JudyM
(29,279 posts)Were cheering her on. Check it.
ShazzieB
(16,529 posts)I'm a boomer, I'm older than dirt, and I love me some AOC. Do I agree with her on every detail 100% of the time? No. Not necessary. I don't need to agree with someone on every detail 100% of the time to love and respect them. (If I did, my husband and I wouldn't be coming up on our 47th anniversary a few months from now. Heh.)
JudyM
(29,279 posts)BainsBane
(53,072 posts)She seems alright, good even. But she screws it all up on Twitter, IMO.
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Yeehah
(4,595 posts)but lost several House seats. The top leadership of the Democratic party desperately needs change. The image of the Democratic party needs to change from "spineless, compromised cavers" to "ferocious fighters for the working class."
Ani Yun Wiya
(797 posts)Failure to change to a fighting stance is what the problem is...
BasicallyComplicated
(60 posts)PatrickforO
(14,592 posts)I have often said this, particularly at the local and state levels, but it definitely applies nationally. People who take strong positions are generally respected, and do better in elections than people who seem to voters to be wishy-washy.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)The time length of her spot reflected her task, and that is what she chose to do.
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)Great! She needs to really lay down the facts...
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)But she needs to learn when and when not to air the dirty laundry. It does no good to cause rifts in the party at a time when there needs to be great unity. Timing is everything and learning the timing comes with maturity.
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)and bring in the new.
treestar
(82,383 posts)she should be President, or speaker of the house.
KayF
(1,345 posts)Obama did not suggest AOC be nominated for the Supreme Court.
True!
greblach
(257 posts)AOC and her ever growing squad has built her own platform. The false and derisive comments about her from the Repubs show their disgust, and authenticate her power. She doesn't need to be given a platform...We need more like her...
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)Of course, they and their Repub lap dogs are going to attack her. But, she does make herself more of a target than necessary. On the other hand, get money out of politics and she becomes less disturbing to main stream politicians.
PS I'm 77.
calimary
(81,500 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,569 posts)It won't be that long until the post-boomer demographic will be virtually all that there is in national politics. If they are shunted to the background for too long, their experience and readiness will be woefully short of what they will need to be.
ms liberty
(8,600 posts)NNadir
(33,561 posts)...she is very intelligent, well spoken, incisive and original.
I agree with President Obama, the best President of my lifetime.
We need to hear what she has to say.