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uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 04:55 PM Dec 2020

We have 50 more days to Jan 20 and 150,000 infected daily avg and a 3% death rate that's ...

... an extra 225,000 dead Americans making the total 500,000 at our current rate if things don't get worse.

People please be careful seeing hospitals are going to start to fail

It'll take 30 days minimum before we see some changes from the Biden admin and Putin's whores stench of stupid when it comes to CV19 will be addressed.

Please be safe

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genxlib

(6,136 posts)
1. If the math holds
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 04:59 PM
Dec 2020

We are looking at ~4000 deaths a day for an extended period of time.

Math is undefeated.

FreeState

(10,702 posts)
13. How will no ICU beds effect this
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:50 AM
Dec 2020

I’m guessing the deaths may be more than what the math is showing if we run out of beds.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
16. +1, I did not factor in lack of throughput at hospitals causing higher death rates other than the..
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:01 AM
Dec 2020

... the "ish" on the back of 3%.

Right now the deaths post outcome is at 3.21 ... jus ... damn

Also

We can build millions upon millions of beds and facilities its the staffing and equipment that are going to go.

My nephews wife works in a hospital in a medium sized city, people are in the halls in one part of the hospital and are going to start moving to the next.

Someone has go to start screaming loudly

malaise

(296,118 posts)
2. Turns out that this pandemic will kill more people in the US than the one in 1918
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 05:03 PM
Dec 2020

Thanks Killa Con you fucking criminal

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
6. Numbers wise, yes.
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:27 PM
Dec 2020

But to match the percentage, we would need to see between 3.5 and 4 million dead.

The estimate on dead Americans from 1918-1920 pandemic was 675,000. World population was 1.5 billion back then. It’s now nearing 8 billion.

Btw...

malaise

(296,118 posts)
7. True but given the advances in science and technology
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:28 PM
Dec 2020

this has been a clusterfuck on steroids

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
11. Yep, we're truly not doing much different than in 1918 despite a man being on the moon
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:47 AM
Dec 2020

Squinch

(59,522 posts)
3. And this is not going to turn on a dime. It will take Joe some months to get it under control.
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 05:58 PM
Dec 2020

And even then, he will only get it under control in the places where he has cooperation from the states. Red states will likely not do anything to stop this.

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
4. A lot depends on vaccine acceptance
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:21 PM
Dec 2020

If 30-40% of the population skip it, we could see a slow burn well into next winter as a couple hundred unvaccinated keep dying every month.

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
8. It will probably get near normal again after winter 2022-2023.
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:29 PM
Dec 2020

If we use the 1918-1920 pandemic as guideposts.

Yes. Cases will be amongst unvaccinated mostly then. I do expect some vaccinated people will develop sub clinical infections and very well could be asymptomatic spreaders to the unvaccinated. That is why mask wearing will still be important.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
5. What Did I Miss?
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:26 PM
Dec 2020

Where does the 3% death rate come from?
The numbers I'm seeing are around 1.5%.
Was there some revision I missed?
Not that one in 66 people dying from it isn't horrible.
I'm just seeing different values.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
14. From worldometers (link) looks like they're using the "Cases With An Outcome" measure ...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:56 AM
Dec 2020

... instead of the total number of cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I can see that because total number of cases going on right now nearly half are not resolved meaning there's people still sick but not dead or fully recovered yet.

Ms. Toad

(38,643 posts)
12. The 7-day average new cases hasn't been that low since Nov 14-15 :(
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:50 AM
Dec 2020

Currently it's about 170,000 - and likely growing.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
15. I was trying to baseline the numbers throughout Jan with shut downs in the major states ...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:56 AM
Dec 2020

.. meaning full NPI for 2 weeks.

I know, I didn't caveat it but I just can't imagine we're going on the same path as we are right now without anyone doing anything of note.

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