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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:36 AM Oct 2012

Top Romney Adviser Admits Romney LIED in Debate Tonight

Top Romney Adviser Admits Romney LIED in Debate Tonight

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For all Dkos readers who haven't seen the Talking Points Memo article where Romney's Top Adviser, Eric Ferhnstrom, admit Romney lied tonight during the debate -- I wanted to share it with you.

Pressed by TPM’s Evan McMorris-Santoro, Fehrnstrom said those who currently lack coverage because they have pre-existing conditions would need their states to implement their own laws — like Romney’s own Massachusetts health care law — that ban insurance company from discriminating against sick people.

“We’d like to see states do what Massachusetts did,” Fehrnstrom said. “In Massachusetts we have a ban on pre-existing conditions.”

TPM wrote:

After the first presidential debate at the University of Denver in Colorado on Wednesday night, one of Mitt Romney’s top advisers acknowledged that, as a result Romney’s plan to repeal Obamacare, people with pre-existing medical conditions would likely be unable to purchase insurance.

Eric Ferhnstrom is Romney adviser who told us Mitt would Etch-A-Sketch his way to the White House.

Romney is a pathological liar ---

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139644/-Top-Romney-Adviser-Admits-Romney-LIED-in-Debate-Tonight

It only gets better.




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Top Romney Adviser Admits Romney LIED in Debate Tonight (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2012 OP
If he really is pathological, then how does one "debate" such a person? young_at_heart Oct 2012 #1
You can't debate someone like that. You can only let him go on and implicate himself. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #8
What Romney promises re pre-existing conditions: pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #2
knr spanone Oct 2012 #3
that's probably THE most popular aspect of Obamacare renate Oct 2012 #4
k/r fishwax Oct 2012 #5
He's Lying for the Lord, ProSense DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #6
As I've been saying all night BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #7
+1 n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #9
(looking at watch) rainbow4321 Oct 2012 #10
Yes, mission accomplished ProSense Oct 2012 #12
Ferhnstrom Thinks He's Clever, I Guess DallasNE Oct 2012 #11

young_at_heart

(4,042 posts)
1. If he really is pathological, then how does one "debate" such a person?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:55 AM
Oct 2012

I've seen many debates but this one was unlike any other. I think professional debaters are cringing tonight.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
8. You can't debate someone like that. You can only let him go on and implicate himself.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:02 AM
Oct 2012

Then unleash the ads and commercials of his own words on video, highlighting all of the lies and flip-flopping. There's no engaging a creature like this in a debate. It's all about the follow-through.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
2. What Romney promises re pre-existing conditions:
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:00 AM
Oct 2012

On his campaign website, Romney promises that his health care plan would:

Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage

http://www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care


renate

(13,776 posts)
4. that's probably THE most popular aspect of Obamacare
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:05 AM
Oct 2012

Of course, he told his lie, convincingly, in front of the biggest audience he's ever going to get. But the Internet has changed the way the media have to work, even over the past four years, even though it's no longer new. Bloggers have more influence than they did four years ago and a lie will be called out as a lie in a much bigger way now. I hope the Romney campaign learns that to their sorrow in the next few days.

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
7. As I've been saying all night
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:02 AM
Oct 2012

any centrist position that Romney took tonight that might appeal to independent voters will be redacted by his advisors/surrogates. Calm down. The impression I get from the up/down who won question frames it that Wromney won by being a bully and by playing dirty. People might have to admit that the bully knocked down the smart kid, but everyone still has sympathy for the smart kid.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
10. (looking at watch)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:05 AM
Oct 2012

Well that was quick..first "admission" and the debate just ended how many hours ago? Guess they hoping a middle of the night "admission" is better than a start-of-the-next-day's-cable-shows "admission"??

DallasNE

(8,007 posts)
11. Ferhnstrom Thinks He's Clever, I Guess
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:21 AM
Oct 2012

The only reason that Massachusetts was able to cover pre-existing conditions is because there is an insurance mandate, just like Obamacare. Doing health care on a State by State basis would also greatly increase the costs while not providing any more care. Which makes more sense, one set of rules or 51 sets of rules (includes DC, which would have to be approved by Congress). Here Romney wants his cake and eat it too by defending the Massachusetts law but repealing the nearly identical Obamacare law.

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