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Nevilledog

(55,085 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:04 PM Dec 2020

The cluster is coming from inside the house.



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Every new COVID-positive patient I have spoken with today spent time with friends and family on Thanksgiving, or traveled in the last 10 days. Every. Single. One.

The cluster is coming from inside the house.
12:57 PM · Dec 2, 2020 from Amarillo, TX
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Hugin

(37,861 posts)
1. Ouch.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:13 PM
Dec 2020

From what I understand, the two most critical items wrt the spread of a pandemic and although they are independent variables they are related.

1) The distance traveled on a daily basis.
2) The number of different people interacted with on a daily basis.

This is stacking up to be a problem.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
2. Andrew Cuomo gave a speech on something called "Living Room Spread"
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:19 PM
Dec 2020

in which he asserted domestic gatherings were what he was most worried about. I don't know the science behind it, but isn't "length of time in the same place with others" a growing factor of concern? Remember those bus and restaurant (and church) studies?

I recall another study that claimed that many very brief exposures (while wearing a mask) over a period of time might be a good way to build antibodies without actually getting sick. But it was just one study and I never heard more about it.

Hugin

(37,861 posts)
3. Correct, "Living Room Spread" is the most horrible part of a pandemic.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:34 PM
Dec 2020

I guess what I posted earlier could be considered the macro spread of the virus.

One person in an enclave who does the two things in my previous post and carries the pathogen back into the enclave.

Then, within the enclave, there's the "Living Room Spread" or micro spread of the disease. Which would occur due to the members of the group spending time in a confined area sharing all of the physical surfaces and rebreathing the air. They are also in this shared area observing a minimum of the protocols. (Hand washing, distancing, masks, etc.) Duration of exposure is definitely important in the ultimate severity of the disease.

It's similar to a firecracker with a report at the end. The macro being the trajectory and the micro being the pop.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
4. Interesting. I've read that the amount of time spent in proximity to an infected...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:25 PM
Dec 2020

person or an enclosed space makes all the difference. In other words, get in and get out as fast as possible while shopping or whatever.

Alhena

(3,076 posts)
5. If we're talking about mom and dad and siblings, I did that as well
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:28 PM
Dec 2020

I'm not going to go a year without seeing my close family and siblings, pandemic or not. And I drove by myself to their house. But we ditched the traditional extended family thing.

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