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Nevilledog

(55,081 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:50 PM Dec 2020

Ivanka Trump Diamonds Embroiled in Alleged Money-Laundering Scheme



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Ivanka Trump Diamonds Embroiled in Alleged Money-Laundering Scheme:

Commercial Bank of Dubai claims Ivanka’s diamonds were vehicles in scheme to hide $100 million owed to financial institution, based on filings at U.S. District Court for #SDNY

#Trump

Ivanka Trump jewelry line embroiled in an alleged money laundering scheme, report says
Money launderers convert dirty money into small diamonds that are easy to smuggle.
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Ivanka Trump Diamonds Embroiled in Alleged Money-Laundering Scheme (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2020 OP
I learned to do laundry from my grandma, Ivanka learned to launder money from her dad sinkingfeeling Dec 2020 #1
Wonder if they'll move Mar-a-Lago to the Ozarks? Roland99 Dec 2020 #19
(it's gonna need to be closer than that to Leavenworth......) lastlib Dec 2020 #28
Awesome response. ancianita Dec 2020 #29
We're about 30 miles from Leavenworth rustysgurl Dec 2020 #35
Get your concession stand application in early! niyad Dec 2020 #55
She did say out loud with live mics that she got her moral compass from her father. Believe her! catrose Dec 2020 #20
Oh, boy. Hope we hear more and more come out as we watch him do a pardon for all his CTyankee Dec 2020 #2
He can't, on this one. Her case is in SDNY's jurisdiction. ancianita Dec 2020 #30
Isn't SDNY A Section Of The JUstice Dept Me. Dec 2020 #33
So I'm wrong. Dammit. Fooled myself again. Couldn't the offense fall under state jurisdiction ancianita Dec 2020 #38
Wishful Thinking Fools Us All Me. Dec 2020 #39
So does that mean that no charges at SDNY on Trump will escape pardons, either? Then ancianita Dec 2020 #40
If It Is A Federal Case The Pardon Will Be Effective Me. Dec 2020 #57
Thank you. ancianita Dec 2020 #61
BAY Me. Dec 2020 #64
If it becomes a civil suit, no one can stop it. Pardons mean nothing. marble falls Dec 2020 #51
I believe the SDNY is not federal secondwind Dec 2020 #52
Sadly, In This Case, Is. It's The NY Part That's Fooling Everyone Me. Dec 2020 #54
Oh, good. I wonder if my Trumpie neighbor is gonna do a whole Facebook posting on how awful CTyankee Dec 2020 #34
Trump has been doing it for years, throughout the Clinton and Obama years and SDNY LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #43
Maybe longer. rickyhall Dec 2020 #45
Yeah but now, SDNY's got at least four more years of evidence, so maybe now they will. ancianita Dec 2020 #50
The difference is, now they have someone who will pardon these crimes. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #63
Well, imagine that! James48 Dec 2020 #3
Al, Bob, Chuck, Dave, Evan, Frank, Gene, Hank, Ivan, John, Ken, Lee, Mike, Nobert, Opie, KS Toronado Dec 2020 #36
This is getting good soothsayer Dec 2020 #4
This is the new tRUMP normalcy. (YAWN) abqtommy Dec 2020 #5
I suspect far more 'dirty laundry' is going to air/be made public once the idiot is out of office... SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #6
Yes. ALL of them! Every last rotten seditious one of 'em! calimary Dec 2020 #11
Ceramic Barbie is fake eyebrow deep in illegal shit. ResistantAmerican17 Dec 2020 #7
"Ceramic Barbie" Botany Dec 2020 #47
A picture that makes my point better than I ever could. ResistantAmerican17 Dec 2020 #58
In 20 years she'll look just like daddy!!! LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #59
And the grift goes on... MoonRiver Dec 2020 #8
The brothers are just stupid small-time grifters, but Ivanka is nearly as much a criminal as Dump. kysrsoze Dec 2020 #9
And I hope her name is eventually all over subpoena documents and calimary Dec 2020 #18
No wonder he wants a "blanket pardon" for his kids. What about Melania? She's been subpoenaed. AnotherMother4Peace Dec 2020 #10
He's recently discovered she's stupid and old, too. Maru Kitteh Dec 2020 #21
Mix some Blood money with that my dear. Arne Dec 2020 #22
FYI, the linked story is from 2017 n/t servermsh Dec 2020 #12
FYI This happened in 2017.. Princess Turandot Dec 2020 #13
But is the court filing mentioning the diamond story ... new? mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #15
Kickin' with disgust! Faux pas Dec 2020 #14
Has ANYBODY stepped back and asked: MyOwnPeace Dec 2020 #16
I remember reading something about this a few years ago Bev54 Dec 2020 #17
There isn't an honest bone in her body. Most of her body is fake or reshaped. LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #23
Maybe the bank should file in Dubai and get her extradited there? LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #24
I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you Hekate Dec 2020 #25
Anything in there that a state AG safeinOhio Dec 2020 #26
Just seemed appropriate! LaMouffette Dec 2020 #27
Lock her up samsingh Dec 2020 #31
No matter what year, more charges are likely to be filed by SDNY, which makes ancianita Dec 2020 #32
Princess might be headed for the big house and I don't mean a castle somewhere. Vinca Dec 2020 #37
Ivanka has been knee-deep in this from the beginning, so has her husband FakeNoose Dec 2020 #41
LOCK HER UP! Rice4VP Dec 2020 #42
Hopefully she'll soon be trading that tacky orange dress.. Callado119 Dec 2020 #44
The money laundering from the Azerbijan project in 2015-2016 also needs investigating. Lonestarblue Dec 2020 #46
Wow. Interesting. NellieStarbuck Dec 2020 #49
Well, it appears that Vanky actually likes to wear orange, so . . . NellieStarbuck Dec 2020 #48
No pardon on this, right? birdographer Dec 2020 #53
If Ivanka's kids sold girlscout cookies or candybars for charity they'd find a way to launder the mo lindysalsagal Dec 2020 #56
There may come a time when a lass needs a lawyer tanyev Dec 2020 #60
Ivanka be incarcerated Blue Owl Dec 2020 #62
The whole family will be pardoned, but ... moonscape Dec 2020 #65

lastlib

(28,268 posts)
28. (it's gonna need to be closer than that to Leavenworth......)
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:00 PM
Dec 2020

How does it feel, SparklePrincess?



"Ah, princess on the steeple and all the
Pretty people they're all drinkin',
thinkin' that they got it made
Exchanging all their precious gifts
But you'd better take your diamond ring
You'd better pawn it, babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags
And the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you
You can't refuse
When you ain't got nothin'
You got nothin' to lose
You're invisible now, you got no secrets
To conceal
How does it feel?
Ah, how does it feel?
To be on your own?
With no direction home?
Like a complete unknown?
Like a rolling stone?"

--Bob Dylan, Like A Rolling Stone

rustysgurl

(1,098 posts)
35. We're about 30 miles from Leavenworth
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:20 PM
Dec 2020

I wonder if the economy around here's going to be affected by all the supplicants and toadies who will come to stand outside the gates and worship their imprisoned "Royal Family"???

catrose

(5,365 posts)
20. She did say out loud with live mics that she got her moral compass from her father. Believe her!
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:27 PM
Dec 2020

CTyankee

(68,202 posts)
2. Oh, boy. Hope we hear more and more come out as we watch him do a pardon for all his
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:53 PM
Dec 2020

family members and let the others hang out to dry...

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
38. So I'm wrong. Dammit. Fooled myself again. Couldn't the offense fall under state jurisdiction
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:32 PM
Dec 2020

though, because of state money laundering laws and if the crime was committed in the state?

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
40. So does that mean that no charges at SDNY on Trump will escape pardons, either? Then
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:36 PM
Dec 2020

that means that the only state charges that escape pardons are those made by the NY AG.

Is that the extent of it? Because if it is, that family has gotten away with SO much federal crime.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
57. If It Is A Federal Case The Pardon Will Be Effective
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:54 PM
Dec 2020

THe thing is, we don't know enough about the case yet to make a determination on what chance there is for her to pay for her crime or if she will be able to escape. Everything is conjecture at this point.

1. For one think, I think it depends on what jurisdiction is declared

"“A Civil court has jurisdiction to decide a suit if two requirements are fulfilled: The suit must be of a civil nature. The cognizance of such a suit should not have been expressly or impliedly barred.”

The jurisdiction of a legal case depends on both personal jurisdiction and subject matter jurisdiction. A court must have both subject matter jurisdiction and personal jurisdiction over the matter to hear a case. Subject matter comes first"

A way she could be caught up would be if it becomes a RICO, or racketeering matter. I Believe the AG of NY is looking to tie them up with that charge in civil court in NY.

"A civil RICO action can be filed in state or federal court. Both the criminal and civil components allow the recovery of treble damages (damages in triple the amount of actual/compensatory damages).

RICO authorizes severe penalties of fine and imprisonment. The maximum punishment for an individual on a single RICO charge is imprisonment for twenty years (life if any of the predicate acts charged, such as murder, would permit such a punishment), and a fine of $250,000 or twice the proceeds of the offense"


Me.

(35,454 posts)
54. Sadly, In This Case, Is. It's The NY Part That's Fooling Everyone
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:41 PM
Dec 2020

"The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (in case citations, S.D.N.Y.) is a federal district court whose geographic jurisdiction encompasses eight counties of New York State"

CTyankee

(68,202 posts)
34. Oh, good. I wonder if my Trumpie neighbor is gonna do a whole Facebook posting on how awful
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:19 PM
Dec 2020

that is. I also wonder if there are any "extenuating circumstances." Hmm...

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
43. Trump has been doing it for years, throughout the Clinton and Obama years and SDNY
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:45 PM
Dec 2020

never did anything.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
36. Al, Bob, Chuck, Dave, Evan, Frank, Gene, Hank, Ivan, John, Ken, Lee, Mike, Nobert, Opie,
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:25 PM
Dec 2020

Peter, Q-anon, Roger, Steve, Tom, Ulysses, Victor, Walter, Xmen, Yosef, Zorro

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
6. I suspect far more 'dirty laundry' is going to air/be made public once the idiot is out of office...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:58 PM
Dec 2020

and they should be made to pay for their crimes...all of them...

Botany

(77,323 posts)
47. "Ceramic Barbie"
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:57 PM
Dec 2020


Fake teeth, fake nose, fake hair, fake breasts, and fake what ever else.

She learned biz from Daddy. Check out "Trump Condos" Baja.

kysrsoze

(6,446 posts)
9. The brothers are just stupid small-time grifters, but Ivanka is nearly as much a criminal as Dump.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:59 PM
Dec 2020

Her name is all over Dump's money laundering schemes.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
18. And I hope her name is eventually all over subpoena documents and
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:23 PM
Dec 2020

maybe an arrest warrant, too!

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see her wind up behind bars. And daddy wouldn’t be able to pardon her any further by then.

Maru Kitteh

(31,761 posts)
21. He's recently discovered she's stupid and old, too.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:27 PM
Dec 2020

So pretty sure everything will be her fault very soon.

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
16. Has ANYBODY stepped back and asked:
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:21 PM
Dec 2020

"Why would a "president" need to pardon his children?

Well, not anybody that's been awake for the past 5 years.............


PS: Does anybody remember this question coming up at the end of the Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush (I), Clinton, Bush (II), Obama administrations?

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
17. I remember reading something about this a few years ago
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:23 PM
Dec 2020

when they first came in to office. Had something to do with a partner or employee of hers. Is this something new in that case or new altogether?

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
24. Maybe the bank should file in Dubai and get her extradited there?
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 01:38 PM
Dec 2020

A pardon won't help her there.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
32. No matter what year, more charges are likely to be filed by SDNY, which makes
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:18 PM
Dec 2020

Momma Ivanka a cautionary tale for her children.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
41. Ivanka has been knee-deep in this from the beginning, so has her husband
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:36 PM
Dec 2020

I figure this is a two-fer because Jared is an guilty as she is. He has been Chump's international bagman for the last 4 years. No doubt that Chump would burn Jared and send him to jail if he had to ... but darling Ivanka? NEVER!


Callado119

(171 posts)
44. Hopefully she'll soon be trading that tacky orange dress..
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:45 PM
Dec 2020

..for an orange jumpsuit. She’s earned it..

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
46. The money laundering from the Azerbijan project in 2015-2016 also needs investigating.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 02:55 PM
Dec 2020

Millions were poured into a high rise that has never been occupied. Ivanka Trump managed it for Trump Org. Here’s an article from Crooks and Liars. https://crooksandliars.com/2020/01/ivanka-trump-azerbaijan-tower-and-money

It’s a site that leans far left, but Media Bias rates their reporting as mostly factual. As I scanned this article, something interesting popped out for me—the name Qasem Soleimani, the very general that Trump had assassinated in a surprise raid. Soleimani was certainly not one of the good guys, but he had been doing a lot to fight ISIS, so we had some shared goals. I never really bought Trump’s reason for why he had to be killed. Perhaps there’s something else behind this story. I suspect that the Trumps have been part of international money laundering and criminal elements since the late 1980s when Trump’s numerous business failures meant that he could no longer get money here.

All the Trumps need to be investigated because if Donald does not run in 2024, then either Jr. or Ivanka will. We do not need another Trump in the White House ever.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
53. No pardon on this, right?
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:32 PM
Dec 2020

Since it's SDNY, his blanket pardon for all his kiddies won't affect this, will it?

lindysalsagal

(22,915 posts)
56. If Ivanka's kids sold girlscout cookies or candybars for charity they'd find a way to launder the mo
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:45 PM
Dec 2020

money from some corrupt russian gangster.

tanyev

(49,295 posts)
60. There may come a time when a lass needs a lawyer
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 06:14 PM
Dec 2020

But diamonds are a girl's best friend, Vanky.

moonscape

(5,724 posts)
65. The whole family will be pardoned, but ...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 09:28 PM
Dec 2020

they will be unable to resist committing crimes after leaving office.

It's what they do.

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