Pence is balking at pardoning trump and his family

[Gothmog]

Pence is brighter than I thought (not a high bar to cross). A pardon of trmp would be the kiss of death to what remains of Pence's career

Link to tweet

[C_U_L8R]

1. It seems the price of a pardon just went up.

Supply and demand. Pence may be just as vile but he's not as dumb as Trump.

[MyOwnPeace]

7. While I might argue the "he's not as dumb as Trump" part......

he actually might be getting some advice from "Mother" - or anybody else that's still around him and willing to risk their own career future on someone that actually agreed to serve as BunkerBoy's #1 Stooge/A$$kisser!

[TheBlackAdder]

30. 5 years of hell, he wants a slice of that $207 Million voter fraud take.

[sprinkleeninow]

70. Yah, just on cable news that amount so far. 207M.

We live amongst these.

[Renew Deal]

2. Winslow also claimed to have dirt on Graham that he never delivered.

[Leghorn21]

4. He sure did, Deal.

We ain’t forgot, neither. I’ll file this under “meh”

[StarfishSaver]

22. I forgot about that

He kept promising to release info that would take him down. And never did.

[DrToast]

31. Yeah, his reliable sources are the voices in his head

[denbot]

51. Yup, kinda seems like "Palmer Report", light..

He holds no truck with me..

[Indykatie]

3. Pence is Wrong - His GOP Career is Over if He Doesn't Pardon Trump

Trump owns the base of the party. That's a fact. No one is going to win a GOP primary without Trump and his bat sh*t crazy supporters.

[2naSalit]

45. He's a piece of burnt, soggy toast no matter what...

He's been part of the crime network for too long, it won't matter whether he does or doesn't pardon the asshole, they are all done.

[pbmus]

61. Exactly...what fucking career are they talking about..?

He is a Koch protege that will slither back to his hole in Indiana....and do a podcast with 10,000 followers....uggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh

[Duppers]

72. Wrong? For him? Who cares?

We want him wrong then because tRump the terrible does not deserve a pardon and Pence doesn't deserve to hold any political office ever again.

[bearsfootball516]

5. Double edged sword.

Refusal to pardon Trump would be seen as a betrayal to the MAGATS, who would never vote for him for anything ever again.

No win situation for him.

[JI7]

6. He has no chance at the Presidency, but a pardon may hurt him in private jobs, especially

corporate boards type stuff . It's already going to be difficult becsuse of his association witb Trump.

And Pence is not Wealthy.

[Sgent]

12. In addition

I don't think he has enough federal service to be able to retire. He will have only 16 years in Congress and I don't think that's enough for a pension under the FERPS. VPs don't get a presidential pension.

[JI7]

21. Hopefully this means he will be less likely to pardon

[StarfishSaver]

32. He has enough time in

He doesn't get a vice presidential pension, but at 61 and with more than 10 years of service, he's entitled to get a pension, although it will slightly reduced (about a 2.5% penalty) because he's 6 months short of 62.

[Captain Zero]

44. haha, and his corrupt brother has his old congressional seat

nt

[Pantagruel]

8. Presidential ambitions die hard

It's like kicking drugs for politicians like Pence. Trump needs some serious "kompromat" on him to get him to commit political Hari Kiri. Not sure Trump's got goods.

[nilram]

9. He has a political future?

I have a smelly piece of fish thawing on my counter right now that has a better political future than he does.

Edit to add: It also has more personality.

[JI7]

13. He can get some lower level appointed positions and the corporate board stuff

He isn't wealthy .

[nilram]

35. I stand behind my fish.

[NCjack]

37. He could get on some conservative RW think tanks. ... no, no that will not work.

That would require him to do his part in the thinking.

[Captain Zero]

48. He could go back to the family gas stations and sell cigarettes to minors

No wait, all the gas stations are closed and left their rusting tanks for the state of Indiana and the EPA to deal with.

[Totally Tunsie]

73. Well, he could go back to radio...

https://www.politico.com/video/2016/07/mike-pence-radio-show-full-raw-059928

Oh Lord...this is hilarious! I've never seen him this animated before!

"Is adultery out of date?"

"Carbonation Day" at Indy

Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers...

[cab67]

47. I was about to ask the same thing.

[Marcuse]

63. I hear former Senators from Indiana do quite well.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525182-former-vice-president-dan-quayle-it-is-time-for-trump-to-move-on

[MyOwnPeace]

10. He never had "the right stuff" to begin with...........

it was pure luck on his part that BunkerBoy picked him to begin with. He did not have the "connections" - history - experience to ever work his way up to be an actual "presidential" candidate.
I see him as another Dan Quayle - far exceeded his "Peter Principle" potential..........

[fierywoman]

19. Story goes that FLOTITS advised spanky to choose Pence 'cuz

she thought he would be a yes man.

[MyOwnPeace]

25. A "yes man?"

His head is so far "up there" that every "yes" echoes for days!

[Captain Zero]

49. Oh no, PAUL MANAFORT picked Pence.

So Pence may have some deeper corruption he can retreat to...

[Red Mountain]

41. What's ole Dan been up to?

Seem to have lost track of him.

[Captain Zero]

50. Clipping coupons in sunny Arizona

Dan's family owned newspapers there too.
I'm sure he is trust funding off those old ties, even if they don't pwn the papers any longer.
The papers in Indianapolis sold out to Gannett.

[sprinkleeninow]

67. that guy who spells the red juicy fruit/vegetable 'Tomatoe'?

i hear tell pouncé spells that tuber that grows underground and makes them french fries, 'Potatoe'.

🤪

[Skraxx]

11. This Is Assuming a Trump Resignation

Which will never happen.

[Gothmog]

77. Trump might resign if it makes a pardon effective

trump does not want to to prison

[Livluvgrow]

14. I would imagine

that Musca domestica guy would think he can be president (not likely) or senator from Indiana (more likely). Hate to say it but hoosiers would fall over themselves to vote for him.

[diva77]

15. He might want to look into the witness protection program if he is put in the position of having the

power and then decides not to pardon Dump.



On the other hand, a move like this could result in achieving sainthood.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

16. Since when is a vice-president

able to pardon?

And Pence has no political future anyway. He will do well enough financially, as he'll no doubt get very highly paid speaking engagements and be appointed to equally well-paid corporate boards. In short, he won't have to work even as hard as he has these past four years.

[JI7]

23. The plan would be for Trump to resign before he leaves office

even in the last week or days . And Pence becomes President and pardons him.

But Pence is probably thinking how that could hurt him from getting jobs in the future.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

74. I'll go out on a limb and say there is simply no way Trump will resign.

Not even at 8am on January 20th, so Pence can sign a pardon.

He will either try to pardon himself, or slip away somewhere over Christmas and not return to DC at all. Although I don't think there's much likelihood of that happening, as he's too narcissistic to be out of the spotlight for more than twenty minutes at a time.

[Chiyo-chichi]

79. Exactly... on all counts. He has no power to pardon him.

And if Trump resigns, I'll eat a MAGA hat. But someone will have to send me one. I'm not paying good money for that trash.

[nakocal]

17. Mike "Puppy Fucker" Pence has no political future

He is already despised by decent Americans and is not vile enough for most republicans.

[MyOwnPeace]

27. Oh, FINE!!!!!

With only fifty-some days left of this mis-administration, you come up with the PERFECT "name" for him!

[beastie boy]

18. Pence's political career was over when this happened:

A while ago I suggested that Pence may attempt to shake Trump down once he is in the position to grant pardons. Please, Lordy, let this be Pence's first step in making this totally unfounded speculation come true! Pretty pleasse!

[Wicked Blue]

20. Career as what?

Utility pole
Store mannequin
Ventriloquist's dummy
Fire hydrant
Festivus pole

[MyOwnPeace]

28. Fly paper?

But seriously, great suggestions!


Utility pole - the only wires he should ever hold would be for the FBI
Store mannequin - gotta' give it to him, some women think he's pretty OK
Ventriloquist's dummy - why not - he's had Donnie's hand up there for the past 4 years!
Fire hydrant - Ah, the visual - all the neighborhood dogs giving tribute...........
Festivus pole - I think Frank Costanza would actually approve!

[Solomon]

33. Well played.

[Wicked Blue]

57. LOL

[Buckeye_Democrat]

24. Maybe Pence secretly hates the bloviating idiot?

Works for me.

[marlakay]

26. I thought Trump had stuff to hold

Over him if he talks or doesn't help him. Maybe he doesn't have anything or maybe Pence who doesn't even have a house is holding out for some major pay off like having a donor of Trumps give him a job.

[TeamPooka]

29. Being President for 12-24 hours in exchange a destroyed reputation and career?

Hard pass

[CanonRay]

34. Mike, here's a tip

Pretend you'll do it so he'll let you take over, then tell him to shove it. It will make up for a small part of the shit you've eaten the last 4 years

[sprinkleeninow]

69. Good. Bamboozle tЯump.

🙃

[Pantagruel]

36. Is this supporting evidence

for Winslow's thesis?



Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/mike-pence-backs-away-from-the-trump-election-fraud-train-wreck

The usual Pence obeisance is cracking?

[Hekate]

38. We'll see, indeed

[Rebl2]

40. How could

he pardon them if he isn’t president? Did I miss something?

[flibbitygiblets]

42. See Post #23

[reACTIONary]

55. It isn't stated, but the assumption is...

... there is a scheme for tRump to resign a few days before the inauguration so Pence can assume the presidency to pardon him.

[egduj]

43. If pence becomes president he will absolutely pardon trump.

Why would trump resign otherwise?

[llmart]

54. But then who will pardon Pence?

I'd bet my bottom dollar that he's not so squeaky clean in this whole rigmarole. So Trump tells Pence he'll resign if Pence pardons him. Pence does that and I'm sure there's already plenty evidence of Pence's collaboration/knowledge on whatever schemes the trump crime family have been involved in.

[budkin]

46. His political future is already destroyed

4+ years of simping for Trump did that.

[kairos12]

52. He'll cave and do it. He has a spine of jello. Mother will make him.

[Pantagruel]

56. Mother?

She may want to be FLOTUS?
Maybe these thumpers think it their duty to shepherd in the "end of times"?

[eShirl]

53. Pence is damned if he do, damned if he don't.

[Gothmog]

78. Yep

This will be fun to watch

[bucolic_frolic]

58. Pence pardoning Trump implies Trump will resign and I don't believe it

Also Pence does not have sufficient spine to balk at anything. So put this story in the fantasy category.

[Evolve Dammit]

59. The mortician is balking?? Thought he was all in. Nah, he's all in. Rapture will save him.

[caraher]

60. I remember the last time Pence had no political future

As governor he had just been dragged by the entire Indiana business community over his support of the state "Religious Freedom Restoration Act," legislation crafted to pander to his homophobic base. Even the usual mindless boosters of Hoosier Republicans (the folks who were plugging first Mitch Daniels and then Pence as possible presidential candidates the moment they entered the Governor's mansion) stopped talking up Pence as being viable at the national level, and there was real concern that he might not be re-elected.

Then along came Trump to elevate the incompetent from a mess of his own creation...

[MerryBlooms]

62. pence has no future and will do whatever trump tells him to do.

[Mariana]

64. If Pence was the slightest bit bright

he would already know that he has no political future.

[musclecar6]

65. Pence

Is another Dan Quayle. After Jan 20th, never heard from again.

[UTUSN]

66. Beg to differ: His career? He was on the way out when "saved" by the veep thing.

Nothing in his veep thing either in accomplishments or in signs of life. He has nowhere to go from here.

[jalan48]

68. LOL. Right.

[Kablooie]

71. He's just bargaining for a bigger bribe.

[live love laugh]

75. Hard to believe but Momma's boy may finally be growing up.

[Cha]

76. Rt Winslow! I dunno know.. seems 74 million

would think he's a hero. But keep thinking like that, pence.

[DonCoquixote]

80. He coudl spin a aprdon into a win

As the evangelical crowd will praise him for it. Truth be told, he wants millionaire money. Expect to see him on Fox