Trump reminds me of my parents when they had dementia

[extvbroadcaster]

My father would sit at the kitchen table and stew endlessly about grievances he thought were done to him. His big one was us kids taking the ammunition for his guns. We were afraid he would shoot somebody, even us. Trump reminds me of this. He has no interest in doing the job of President, he just wants to endlessly claim he won the election. So he is fighting for a job he does not want. He wants to go over the election again and again. He has seemed mentally ill to me since day one.

[Botany]

1. FYI

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214668037

[Phoenix61]

2. When I saw him use two hands to take a drink of water

I knew he has dementia. Personally, I think it’s Lewy-Body dementia. Tragic combination of dementia and Parkinson’s. I’m not at all worried about him running in 2024. I doubt he’ll be able to walk by then.

[Under The Radar]

6. I have used two hands since having a mild stroke

...which most people don’t notice but I am more apt to lose my grip if only using my left hand.
I not so sure that dementia is the underlying differences in Trump, where I think that simply being a fucking idiot would account for the majority of his faults.

[Mr.Bill]

8. 35% of the country

will vote for him if he is in a coma.

[90-percent]

3. It's alsso the most prolific grift of his life

whining about his stolen election has brought in three hundred million dollars that, for the most part, djt can use as he pleases.

Hopefully that much money will not be enough to get him out of all his legal problems he will face after Biden is sworn in.

-90% jimmy

[dawg day]

4. that's what he kept bragging about in that Georgia rally--

How much money he'd "raised" since election day.
"Sir, 250 million!"
"I said, '250 million what?'"

"Sir, 250 million dollars!"

And everyone cheered like they were so happy that this "Billionaire" got another quarter billion... from them.

That's all it's been for him now-- a way to grift enough to pay off that huge personal debt.

[birdographer]

21. More bafflement

His cult members are just plain baffling. They go on and on about what a great businessman he is, a successful billionaire, and yet they give money they can't afford to part with to this wise billionaire businessman since he asks them to. Not a single one wonders why he needs and wants their hard-earned money. I have always been as generous as possible donating money to charity or individuals, but that is affected by this. The first thing I would want to know about someone who claims they can't afford milk to feed their child is "How much money did you give to trump?"

[DENVERPOPS]

27. Not much different in any way

than the leaders of these Mega huge religious congregations all across the United States. The congregations give truck loads of money to their so called churches and the leader is siphoning off millions and millions for themselves. The pastors and their family own planes, huge yachts, multiple mansions, lead wildly extravagant hedonistic lifestyles etc etc etc. I laughed out loud a few years ago when it was reported that some church leader, confided to his flock in a Sunday service that the Lord had called down to him the night before and had told him he needed a super expensive helicopter to travel around in with his family and friends.

Or that pastor of a super sized congregation a few months ago, who was shown to be a cuckold with his wife doing the pool boy for years while he watched, and pictures of them having mini sexual escapades on their yacht...etc etc etc

It makes perfect sense that the RepubliCONs would market themselves to these religious groups across the nation. These groups of people have already proven they are easily vulnerable to conning, just ripe for the picking for a Politicians Base.

The funniest thing about this group of Evangelicals and Religious Right Wing group of fanatics is, that despite Trump's history of corruption, forcing himself on women, multiple relationships with whores, three wives, distributing porno pictures of his wife and mother of his son, never ever going to church, etc etc etc is that the ten's of millions of his religious followers worship him and don't recognize, in fact, that he is the SPAWN of SATAN......

Lordy, Lordy, Lordy.........

[Blue_true]

48. They also got badly outgunned by us when raising money mattered to the election race. nt

[treestar]

53. Yes, remember them saying he "can't be bought"

because he has so much money of his own; he does not take the salary. Don't they see the inconsistency there? Probably not.

[barbtries]

22. just a drop in the bucket

compared to his debt.

[Siwsan]

5. I've been suspecting he is well into developing dementia since he took office

I never paid much attention to him, before that but I do know that his father died of Alzheimer's so he already had an elevated chance of developing it.

Having dealt with my mother when she was going though that disease process, I can't help but notice so many similarities.

[DENVERPOPS]

30. Has anyone noticed

how when sitting in meetings etc, he continually has his arms crossed with his hands pinned next to his armpits.
Is he getting parkinson's and doesn't want his hands and arms to move around uncontrollably.......

My friends think with his past and present sex life that he probably has Tertiary Syphillis......LOL

Ironic that when the Fed's couldn't nail Al Capone for his horrors, they finally got him on Tax Evasion to toss his ass in prison.
Could that be the Future of Trump? BTW: Capone was released from prison early to die at home from....wait for it....Tertiary Syphillis

[Siwsan]

31. I'm pretty sure that the state charges are what will bring him down

As for the Tertiary Syphillis, well, I never wish anyone ill, but I DO wish them each and every thing their choices and behaviors cause them to deserve - be it good or really, really, REALLY bad.

[DeminPennswoods]

7. While I think Trump has a better than average

chance of getting dementia because his father had it, this right now is nothing more than his insatiable need for attention/to be the center of attention and the grift he's working on these poor schmucks.

[Wellstone ruled]

9. Dementia early onset

is already in play if one looks at the typical signs in his speech patterns as well as his physical actions and reactions. Couple that with being a narcissistic sycophant,this sucker is truly a Rubber Room Candidate.

[Maru Kitteh]

32. What are these "typical signs" in speech, actions and reactions?

[Wellstone ruled]

38. Sluring,body movements,especially

lack of stability. Throw those things in with what appears to be some Cardio Vascular issues. What is surprising is,he being a mega Blow user,surprised he even is alive at this point.

[Maru Kitteh]

46. And do you think these are universal to all forms of dementia?

I didn't notice any specifics in your diagnosis.

[Wellstone ruled]

49. Had a few Family Members

that have or had Dementia when they past. No two had the same symptoms exactly. And the remaining member is in a locked facility for his own saftey. Watched how my Mother In Law suffered for several years. Watched my own Mother as well as her Parents and how they both suffered and not understanding what was happening. Only to find the truth later .

In all these cases,it started out unnoticed symptoms but later the stumbling and the motor-skills sounded our alarm bells. In all but one case someone was near by when they fell or needed some type of emergency care until it was necessary to be entered into 24/7 Nursing care.

When watching Trump,my Spouse and I see all the things we could document with all our Family Members whom were diagnosed with Dementia.. But Trump appears to have a hell of a lot more going on. Just a experienced guess.

[catrose]

10. Covid-19 can age your brain 10 years, I've read

He didn't have 10 years to lose.

[Jon King]

11. Bored with Trump....

Honestly, pretty much boring now. He will go on collecting donations and being a ahole for 6 more weeks, then go do rallies and tweet. But the entire thing is boring now for many people. Our kids play international tennis and we talk to everyone. A few weeks ago many were interested in the Trump saga. Now folks are just so over him and his family.

Once he loses Presidential power I think he will bore more and more people and not be nearly as relevant outside deep red areas as people think. He has no vision, no ideas, neither do his kids. In the end, he lost, and despite the BS, people get bored of losers pretty quickly and move on.

[Captain Zero]

15. "He has no vision, no ideas, neither do his kids." In the end there is no payoff for his followers

I like your summary JK.

[birdographer]

23. It is our sincere hope

that beginning January 21st, we will not hear about trump. News media will talk about Biden, COVID, Yemen, monoliths, whatever--but nothing about trump. Maybe a sentence for each time he appears in court for one of the lawsuits against him, but no more than they would for any criminal. Kimmel and Colbert will no long include him in the monologues. He will be as much of a subject of interest as he was 10 years ago, when we personally knew he had a cameo role in a movie and some talk show host tousled his hair once and that was the sum total of our knowledge about him. We are so sick of hearing about him constantly. I hope that he will no longer have a presence here on DU after 1/20. Until he keels over, when we can all express relief and share champagne cocktail recipes.

[DENVERPOPS]

33. We can hope

We should hear a daily briefing on progress Biden Administration is making at resolving the plethora of problems left in the RepubliCONs wake. And also a true update on the progress of the virus that day. An hour every night, just like the major networks allowed Trump. If the networks won't do that free of charge, then instead, every night some donor should sponsor a five minute version and part of the five minutes should point out the blatant and flagrant hypocrisy that all the Networks did an hour a night, every night for Trump's worthless rants, but aren't doing it for the Dem President.

The Dems really really really need to rise to the occasion. We need some serious "street fighters" and a group of their most intelligent people to second guess and combat the Repubs every movement.

Hilary did a masterful job during her campaigning. Each nite when the Repubs came out with some pure crap, her crew went to work overnight and developed counter ads that started airing the very next morning to lay the Repubs to whale shit for the crap they said the night before. It worked extremely well. The Lincoln Project has done a great job of doing this, but I never saw an ad buy on Network TV across the entire nation every night. Maybe I just missed if they did that, I don't know.

It needs to be an all out, total wall of resistance, each and every day from now on, period. If a House Member or Senator aren't up to the fight we need to tell them to crap or get off the pot because we will find some real firebrand dems who are up to the fight. Governors and Mayors also.....

I truthfully expect that the Networks, being predominately RepubliCON owned, will allow the same shit we are seeing now to continue past January 20th. The mainstream media will try to say, that in all fairness to both parties they are doing a "he said, she said", or some similar BS, but we can no longer allow the networks to get away with their Overwhelming Hypocrisy and complicity in furthering the Republicans destructive causes.

[colorado_ufo]

24. Like the RNC had no platform.

[cab67]

12. This is one reason I don't think he'll ever be really held accountable by the courts.

A good lawyer could probably argue that he's unfit for trial.

That's not hyperbole or an attempt at humor. I'm serious. Based on everything we've witnessed throughout his time in the White House, I really do think he's dealing with something that limits his mental and motor capacities. This doesn't excuse even the tiniest bit of his wrongdoing, but it could be enough to make sure he never sees the interior of a prison cell.

[Warpy]

13. He has the most severe form of a sevee personality disorder

He is a malignant narcissist. Check out this video, it explains a lot:

His dementia is very, very early. People who aren't malignant narcissists cover this stage of dementia well enough that it takes a medical professional to recognize it.

[colorado_ufo]

26. Thank you so much for sharing this!

It may even save someone's life.

[Warpy]

37. The trick is spotting these people early enough

to make a clean getaway. They have considerable charm, at least in the beginning. Once they suck you in, the charm largely vanishes. It's more useful to spot them and then run away.

Dr. Carter posted a handy video last September to help people do just that:

[DENVERPOPS]

34. I thought

he and his entire group were just psychopathic sadists that wanted to install a dictatorship.......

[DENVERPOPS]

35. I thought

he and his entire group were just psychopathic sadists that wanted to install a dictatorship.......

[Warpy]

36. He might be surrounded by them

Stephen Miller would certainly seem to fit the bill, as would several others, but Dumdum is a classic malignant narcissist.

Mary Trump doesn't use those words, but she's certainly got his number.

Daddy Fred might have been a psychopath, we don't know that much about him.

[treestar]

54. Interesting point about being anointed

and what if they are - like kings of old, for example, Henry VIII. Enabled entirely.

Once Donald Trump was elected President, that seemed to him like confirmation.

[Delmette2.0]

14. Shades of my Mother.

She would bring up some slight from 70 years prior. Even if the offender was long dead or just a child at the the time of the incident. Most of the people I had heard of them but, didn't know them personally.

Mom died two years ago at 92, she rarely talked about the good things in her life.

[Midnight Writer]

39. Sounds like my Dad.

I found he had a list of addresses on his kitchen table.

Turns out he had checked the phone book for the name of a kid he had a fight with when he was eight years old.

He made a list of addresses with that same name, and was sitting in his car watching these houses hoping to find out where this guy lived.

He intended to find the guy and kick his ass.

Dad was 90 at the time, and obsessed with getting back at the neighborhood bully from 82 years ago. (Along with a bunch of other people from his past)

I thank God Dad never owned a gun.

[Delmette2.0]

42. I'm sorry you had to live with that kind of worry.

At least my Mother couldn't drive. I tried to help teach her when she was in her late forties but she was too nervous. I was just 16 and realized that a nervous driver will not be a good driver. So I kept driving her to and from work 17 miles each way. It's a good thing gas was cheap back then.

Getting old sucks.

[Midnight Writer]

43. It was a learning experience. Hopefully, i can use him as an example of what not to do as I age.

So far so good. I am trying hard to let the spectres, the grudges, the sleights of the past stay in the past.

[Delmette2.0]

44. I feel exactly the same way.

I tell my remaining family that I love them as much as possible and never complain about the past.

[GETPLANING]

16. Dementia runs in his family

It is hereditary, his father had it, his grandfather had it, and mental illness has affected his siblings. So, no surprise there.

[LiberalArkie]

17. He was a person a group of people picked for the job. They did not realize that the job gave the

man more power than the group could control. They still think they may be able to control him, but they really do not believe they can. They so not know what to do with with the madman.

They are in the same position that they were in when they back Hitler and Mussolini and the many others through history.

[DonCoquixote]

20. That is the dieal GOP candidate

same as Bush was. remember Grover Norquist sayying "we do not need a leader, just someone to sign a pen."

[Ponietz]

18. I figured it would end in brain spurs

[NoRoadUntravelled]

19. He has no interest in doing the job of a President because he has no clue what that is.

He's interested in
1. Being the mobster boss on the Apprentice.
2. Signing papers with a big ol' Sharpie pen.
3. Talking to his dictator buddies on the phone.
4. Rallies.
5. Playing touchy-feely games with his daughter.

[marieo1]

29. Yuck

Yuck!!!!

[NoRoadUntravelled]

56. Double Yuck when combined with his stated desire to date her if she weren't his daughter. nt

[GopherGal]

45. 6. Having someone to fetch him hamberders and KFC

7. Being the only one who gets two scoops of ice cream.
8. Receiving the .praise of his obeisant cabinet members.
9. Softball "interviews" from similarly servile Faux Snooze hosts.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

55. Yes! These fit the list to a T.

[BobTheSubgenius]

25. Yes, he shows some of the characteristics of an elderly person with dementia.

One that is lucid enough to imitate a toddler.

[marieo1]

28. Dementia Don

He has dementia!!! We have someone with dementia running our great country. That is so sad!!! What is the matter with the republican bums in congress that they don't get him out of there. They are all worthless.They are around him all the time, so they have to know he has dementia. Why don't they get him out of there?

[Withywindle]

50. It's happened before. Reagan had it.

But he had much, much more competent handlers who were able to mostly conceal it from the public. And he was an actor, so he knew how to recite lines. And Melania is certainly no Nancy Reagan.

[Zeus69]

40. Armchair diagnosticians... *eyeroll*

Trump is alot of things, clinically demented is not one of them.

[mnhtnbb]

41. He has some form of dementia, I'd bet on it.

I watched my husband deny his probable Lewy Body Dementia for several years before he blew his brains out. Trump has some of the same symptoms, which is obvious to any of us who have lived with watching someone deteriorate from some type of dementia.

[Blue Owl]

47. Frontotemporal

He's showing all the symptoms including the weird leaning

[JI7]

51. He wants to Remain President for the Legal Protections and to continue his Grifting

[patricia92243]

52. His decline is most notable when comparing him to just four

years ago to now. He is more bloated and talks in that unbelievable monotone.