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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCall it Defund the Police or call it something else ... it's still the right thing to do.
Here are some truths:
1. We have limited resources and limited budgets.
2. Police departments account for huge portions of municipal budgets.
3. Policing is largely ineffective at preventing crime and we cannot incarcerate our way to safer communities.
We must reallocate police funding to social programs that work on treating addiction, housing the homeless, and feeding the hungry.
On a national level we must enact single payer healthcare or Medicare for All, ensuring that everyone has access to mental healthcare whenever they may need it.
We also must enact progressive policies that limit the wealth disparity and eliminate chronic poverty.
These changes to our society will greatly reduce the need for police in the first place by treating the societal diseases that are responsible for crime in the first place.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)This ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Not being snarky...not sure what you mean but it sound interesting.
SoFlaBro
(1,915 posts)Rename the movement so that we can get rid of all repukes by one way or the other.
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mchill
(1,018 posts)Why is this unfortunate phrase defund the police popping up on The net everywhere today?
I thought only the GOP coordinated talking points like this.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)J
'That's how they beat the living hell out of us across the country, saying that we're talking about defunding the police,' Biden said during a two-hour closed-door meeting with civil rights leaders on Tuesday, according to audio of the meeting obtained by Bad News.
More progressive factions of the Democratic Party have embraced the movement to defund law enforcement, which gained popularity over the summer following George Floyd's death.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Hardly something they should waste time with, right?
Biophilic
(3,645 posts)And it's a stupid waste of time for these people. We have thrown everything at the police - the good, the bad, and the indifferent - hoping they would solve most of our problems. The 40 year war on drugs is a perfect example. What a waste of people and money.
Why do we think only simplistic solutions will work? It does take a community to make a community safe and whole. That means we all have to be part of the solution. Unfortunately, many of us - and I'm lifting my arm reluctantly - have stepped back hoping someone else would do the work.
Not going to happen. I honestly don't know if we have the will to do the right thing. We really are,spoiled. And I say that as one of the spoiled.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)we need to be a whole lot smarter about words and how we let Republicans frame the narrative... we, here, know what it means but there are a lot of people that communicate much differently than we do and our message is too important to be lost on them
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Blues Heron
(5,931 posts)random drug tests because they have guns and must be CERTIFIED drug free.
Remove all evidence lockers from police control so they can't get their hands on the drugs so easily.
Get rid of cop culture crap like shaved heads and wraparound shades, tattoos etc. Professional haircuts, well groomed etc.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)This slogan will continue to lose elections and nothing will change
oswaldactedalone
(3,490 posts)STOP THIS NOW!!!
bullimiami
(13,084 posts)somewhere along the way they decided we serve them and the protection is doled out as a favor.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The one I'm personally somewhat familiar with is a red county in Florida. Social workers, not armed law enforcement officers, respond to nonviolent situations like a homeless and/or mentally ill person found sleeping behind someone's crepe myrtle. They don't arrest or drop off in a more "suitable" area, they plug the person into the county support systems for shelter, employment assistance, mental evaluation, etc.
Again, a red county. Fortunately, those who made it happen didn't have to deal with agitators turning it into a big left v left v right political battle. Or hypocritically turn a term into a flaming flag to battle over instead of making good change happen.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)gulliver
(13,180 posts)When one calls it "defund the police," they cause the morally good changes to be less likely to happen. Ergo, to do so is to be immoral, good intentions or not.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)conscious, we can drill down and work on improving the messaging. It wasnt long ago that ideas like gay marriage and marijuana legalization were seen as radical.
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)**You** mean reallocate resources, and spend in a way to reduce the need for police (without actually abolishing the police)
**Others** actually mean take all the money away from the police (and abolish them).
There is a wide variety of what "it" actually is. Some of what people mean by "it" is absolutely the right thing to do - what some others mean is not so much the right thing (and is precisely what scares people when they hear the slogan, "defund the police."
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Gets rid of their aggression for $ activities.
Raise taxes if needed, this is essential services and should be treated with a shit ton more respect, on all sides.
NEXT....
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)I guess now is as good a time as any.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)they should have come up with something better. It's a fact that their funding needs to be cut and programs that will save lives should be funded.