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Mon Dec 7, 2020, 07:49 AM

Trump's core supporters have been 'radicalized' against democracy -- and

winning them back is a lost cause: documentary filmmaker

Biden won the 2020 presidential election with 80 million votes, the largest total for any presidential candidate in U.S. history. He defeated Donald Trump by almost 7 million votes. The American people spoke at the ballot box and gave Biden a clear mandate to lead the country out of the Age of Trump and the coronavirus pandemic.

But Trump and his followers do not care for such quaint notions of democracy. The only votes that “count,” according to Trump’s neofascist movement, are his supporters’ votes for him. Democracy — especially multiracial democracy — is deemed illegitimate if Trump or other white Republicans and right-wing extremists are not in power.

In response to Biden’s victory, Donald Trump has launched a coup attempt, effectively a range of attacks against the rule of law and the country’s other democratic norms. This ongoing plot involves far-fetched lawsuits (all of which have failed), “burrowing in” loyalists into key national security and other government positions to sabotage the Biden administration, causing more harm to the economy, worsening the coronavirus pandemic and destabilizing strategic areas of the world.
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I realized, OK, I had good faith and I don’t knock myself for it.But I’m now going to invest that in helping the majority become stronger, to add more numbers to our ranks, which I think Democrats can do. To help craft policies that will help all Americans, despite all their cruelty and their conspiracy theories and their racism. To this day, do you know what I want for Trump voters? Affordable health care, a living wage, a good paying job, Social Security, good infrastructure, high-speed internet and success for their families. And what do they need from me? To suffer. That is the difference between us. I will move forward to a better future for all Americans, and if they want to catch up to the rest of us then we are here waiting for them. I cannot help someone who refuses to help themselves.


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/trumps-core-supporters-have-been-radicalized-against-democracy-and-winning-them-back-is-a-lost-cause-documentary-filmmaker/

It's kind of like that prayer Alcoholic's Anonymous folks say, the grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, courage to change the things which should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other.

A widespread super majority united against fascism. There's way more of us than there are of them. The fascists need to be permanently quarantined from power.

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Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 OP
cyclonefence Dec 2020 #1
Fyrefox Dec 2020 #2
Chainfire Dec 2020 #3
NoMoreRepugs Dec 2020 #4
Chainfire Dec 2020 #5
mdbl Dec 2020 #6
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #7

Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:00 AM

1. And here I'd decided they were all just racists. n/t

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:11 AM

2. Fascism can fly here...

Trumpers would be all too willing to throw democracy and the Constitution under the bus if doing so delivers them an autocrat whose views match their own. They just demonstrated that in their 74 million Trump votes, as well as in their ranting against the results of what was a fair, fraud-free election that they lost!

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:24 AM

3. I am sorry folks, the election is over and we lost....polish your jack boots

I just had a running conversation with a rightwingnut. Here is how it is to go down:

The legislatures of all of the red states have already agreed to say to hell with the Electoral College. They will refuse to accept the EC decision, and vote, in the House, one man, one state, to reinstall Trump. Its a done deal.

It is not just the one person, it is amazing how many of them support placing Trump back in the White House, regardless of the means. They are perfectly willing to accept a single party system with Trump as dictator in order to prevent Biden from establishing a Socialist dictatorship.

Of course, the individual I was conversing with is a nut, but he hasn't fallen far from his tree. This is how far into crazy land that the Right Wing propaganda machine has drug us.

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:54 AM

4. What happens when this DOESN 'T happen??

Are the Deplorable minions just going to sit silent and accept it???

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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 01:18 PM

5. If Trump doesn't tell them that is it over

they may not accept it. The question is how they will they handle it. If Trump leaves office without an attempt to make some some kind of peace then it becomes a question of how we handle it.

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 05:33 PM

6. Trump supporters still denying democracy are mentally defective

i hope there will be a cure for it someday.

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:51 PM

7. There is no middle ground between fascism and democracy.

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