BREAKING: SCOTUS wants response to Texas suit by Thursday at 3 PM

[brooklynite]

SCOTUSBlog

In a last-ditch effort to forestall the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, Texas sought on Tuesday to file a lawsuit directly in the Supreme Court, attempting to delay the Electoral College vote and prevent four states – Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin – from casting their Electoral College votes for President-elect Joe Biden, who won the popular vote in each state. This highly unusual use of the court’s original jurisdiction — which is most often used to resolve interstate disputes involving, for example, water rights — came just six days before each state’s electors are required by law to meet and cast their ballots in the Electoral College.

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Update (Tuesday, Dec. 8, 6:20 p.m.): On Tuesday evening, the court called for a response to Texas’ suit by Thursday, Dec. 10, at 3 p.m.

[msongs]

1. why is texas NOT wanting to throw out texas electoral votes? nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

2. Hmmmm

Oh I know

[regnaD kciN]

4. As someone else pointed out...

...if this flies, what’s preventing Hawaii, say, from filing suit to invalidate Texas? Or Florida, Ohio, North Carolina? The lawsuits after each election would be endless.

[dsc]

28. I can't speak to the rest

But under the theory Texas is using North Carolina's should be thrown out. Our State Board of Elections also made changes to the way voting happened after the law has been passed

[obamanut2012]

37. I literally was just going to post this about NC

Yup, NC's votes need to be tossed then, too.

[Nevilledog]

6. I wanna know why they left out AZ, NV, and MN.

They've been suing those states also.

[DFW]

3. Their shortsightedness should trip them up

It seems clear by the last 9-0 vote that the Supreme Court resents being used for this. I think their response will be to tell Paxton to get lost, since his choice of States reveals his true purpose. The two day response time gives them perfect cover to issue a brief reply Friday evening, or even Monday morning so the electoral college can vote and put an end to this farce. Maybe Ken Paxton doesn‘t realize what this is doing to our standing in the world, bur Roberts will.

[Hortensis]

5. Yes. So far SCOTUS has refused involvement. I'd like to think "resents"

extends beyond Roberts on the right, hope so, but it might be the packees just feel they couldn't carry another 2000 off this time. Trump himself can't have any admirers there, and there's other work to do.

[jaxexpat]

30. It's kind of a parallel to Gore's team demanding a recount of only a couple of counties instead of

the whole state. Shortsightedness can have HUGE consequences irremediable with spectacles, no matter how entertaining.

[Generic Brad]

7. Overturning the election is the new Obamacare repeal

A never ending stream of bogus lawsuits. Republicans sure must be sick of “winning”.

[GrassClippings]

8. I have a question

I heard that the Texas lawsuit doesn’t even allege voter fraud. So what’s TX suing WI, MI, PA, and GA over? Can someone explain this to me?

[pnwmom]

9. Stuff like changing election laws to allow for more mail-in voting, drop boxes, etc. n/t

[Frasier Balzov]

12. It alleges that those states didn't conduct their elections properly.

Voting procedures violated their state constitutions or were hijacked by bureaucrats and judges.

This had the effect of diluting the pro-Trump majority vote of Texas.

It also puts the wrong VP winner in the tie-breaking role in the U.S. Senate.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163052/20201208133328638_TX-v-State-MPI-2020-12-07%20FINAL.pdf

[Proud Liberal Dem]

33. That seems like an odd argument

In a system where the winner of Texas (or most other states) gets the same amount of Electoral Votes no matter how many Popular Votes they get- as long as they get the majority.

[Frasier Balzov]

40. The larger outcome is clearly what they're complaining about.

Our Trump electors combined with the Trump electors of those other states would have re-elected our guy if not for the misbehavior of those other states in how they conducted their elections which wrongfully resulted in Biden electors being chosen instead.

Novel but tortured seems to be the scholarly consensus.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

42. So this is essentially the "We would have won if MI, PA, WI, GA, and AZ didn't exist" argument?

[Frasier Balzov]

43. Didn't exist or were more like us lol. n/t

[Proud Liberal Dem]

49. Exactly

Biden only needed PA, MI, and WI and Trump didn't win those states by a large margin in 2016 and a large part of his win was helped by low turnout and third and fourth parties helping slice the vote some. It really shouldn't have been surprising that Biden eked out wins there. AZ and GA were surprise cherries on the top on his win.

[Saboburns]

10. This happens with all suits. Always. Even this farce. It's procedural with ALL suits.

This case is a farce. This case will not be heard,

Don't panic.

[Cha]

13. TY! Not panicking.. anxious until

it's All Done!

[NutmegYankee]

22. Everyone is anxious. The assaults just don't stop!

[Cha]

11. Best of LUCK for Democracy!

[dalton99a]

14. NEXT: Texas sues Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, etc. for not executing people

[budkin]

15. No chance they hear it

It’s beyond preposterous.

[RandySF]

16. Oh, FFS

[LeftInTX]

17. All the Democratic states should sue TX, KY, FL, IA, SC for their horrible senators

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Ooppss...somehow in this litany, I typed MN. I must have been thinking of some state, but can't remember which one.....

[ahlnord]

21. Hello?

Hello? MINNESOTA?! I take umbrage with this. I don't know how anyone can put Minnesota in this company of states with "horrible senators." Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith represent Minnesota wisely and fairly, thank you very much!

[LeftInTX]

23. Ooppss...I don't even know how I ended up typing MN...Can't remember what state I was thinking of..

It certainly wasn't MN....

[LeftInTX]

44. Oh Gosh...Maine...that's what it was thinking...wrong abbreviation...Susan Collins...

[Cha]

24. Minnesota has 2 Dem Senators, Klobuchar

and Smith.

[LeftInTX]

25. I know..I fixed it

I think I might have seen MN upthread and transposed it.maybe MN should be suing Texas, but poor MN got put in the wrong aisle...

[Cha]

26. No Worries.. All Good..

in Minnesota!

[blueinredohio]

18. How do these lawsuits get heard so fast

when it normally takes months or years to get heard at the Supreme Court?

[Sympthsical]

20. Original jurisdiction

Basically, there are no lower courts that have jurisdiction in state vs. state matters. Any state that sues another state goes straight to the Supreme Court. No appellate, circuit, etc.

It'd be like God telling Satan after he complained about Jesus, "Well, did you ask a priest about it first?"

You don't start these sorts of matters on a lower rung.

[speaknow]

19. I thought that case was dismissed.

What happened to State rights? No state can tell
another state what they should do.

[Buns_of_Fire]

32. That's what I wonder. How does Texas have standing in this case?

Sure, SCOTUS can referee interstate matters -- but this doesn't seem to fall into that category. How has Texas been harmed by what Georgia does?

(I ask this not being a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination.)

[grantcart]

47. It doesn't but they have to receive it to declare no standing

As Rachel pointed out this is Paxton's move to get a pardon

He is facing serious federal prosecution.

[duforsure]

27. If they accept this case to hear ,

Expect many, many more to follow, and from blue states suing them back for numerous election procedures they use to toss ballots from Democrats out using signatures not matching.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

34. Sounds like a recipe

For a “Legal Civil War”

[UCmeNdc]

29. Texas AG pushing Trump's lawsuits to score a pardon for all of his scandals (bribe?)

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

38. +1

(Collin County Sheriff's Office)

[Takket]

31. I think they want to hear this...

Just so they can completely and thoroughly crush this case when they rule on it and excoriate the Texas AG and drumpf for abusing the courts. Maybe even threaten them with sanctions.

In other words they want the litigation to stop.

[onenote]

35. Not likely

Far more likely that they’ll simply deny the request for relief with no comment apart from a dissent from Thomas who, consistent with his position in previous state v state cases is of the view that because the court has exclusive original jurisdiction in such cases, the court does not have the same discretion not to hear the case that it has with other cases that come to it under the court’s appellate jurisdiction.

[Dr. Strange]

46. That's what I'm wondering.

They're seeing these cases flying around and with an already over-burdened system they may be itching to hammer the attorneys that are pushing these ridiculous theories.

[Vinca]

36. The response should be a laugh track. This is the dumbest lawsuit in the history of lawsuits.

[honest.abe]

39. Response from whom?

[ScratchCat]

45. That was my first thought

Who on earth is supposed to issue a response? Those States? And say what? "We get to set our election laws just like Texas". It makes no sense, and I bet the court didn't actually "ask for responses" just as no States actually joined the lawsuit like some people are trying to claim.

[bluestarone]

41. STUPID fucking lawsuit BUT

I'm beginning to think we could have 4 more years of THIS TYPE bullshit!! Almost everyday, just to piss us ALL off!

[Mike 03]

48. Yes, and so that Trump can keep raising money.

Hopefully the news media will stop reporting on these suits soon, though. It just doesn't make sense to keep covering it after a certain point.