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Hermit-The-Prog

(33,032 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:29 AM Dec 2020

Beaten Mom with Toddler ... Demands Officers Be Fired

Black Mom Swarmed & Beaten by Philly Riot Police with Toddler in Car Demands Officers Be Fired

A Black mother who was attacked by a horde of Philadelphia police officers is speaking out about the harrowing experience. Rickia Young was driving an SUV with her 2-year-old son and teenage nephew on October 27 as the city was engulfed in protest over the police killing of Walter Wallace Jr. earlier that day. Officers descended on the vehicle, broke its windows, assaulted and arrested her and separated her from her child. Young’s arrest went viral due to a shocking video of the police swarming her vehicle, and after the National Fraternal Order of Police — the country’s largest police union — posted a photo of her 2-year-old on social media, falsely claiming he “was lost during the violent riots in Philadelphia, wandering around barefoot in an area that was experiencing complete lawlessness.” More than a month after the police attack, Rickia Young is demanding the officers involved be fired. “The police have not offered an explanation as to why they acted the way they did that night. They responded instead with a police investigation into Rickia,” says Kevin Mincey, Rickia Young’s attorney.


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Beaten Mom with Toddler ... Demands Officers Be Fired (Original Post) Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 OP
k&r Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #1
FTP cayugafalls Dec 2020 #2
Awful BainsBane Dec 2020 #3
That child had to do without his hearing aids for 2 weeks. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #7
I hope she has a very, very good lawyer... Hekate Dec 2020 #4
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #6
make em all join afscme mopinko Dec 2020 #9
AFSCME would be just fine. Who the hell do they think they are, an occupying army? Hekate Dec 2020 #11
There's a big problem -- militarization of police. That attracts the Nazis. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #12
yes, they do think they are an occupying army. mopinko Dec 2020 #13
Make the police unions pay the damages for lawsuits brought against bad officers. panader0 Dec 2020 #14
Joining AFL-CIO affiliated unions will not stop cop brutality. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #15
In conjunction with other things I mentioned it would go a long way. They need to stop... Hekate Dec 2020 #16
. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #17
Lawrencia Bembeneck....was white and "traditionally pretty" er, "Bambi" Bembenek Cerridwen Dec 2020 #5
They don't understand until the officers are in jail and the city has given out millions of dollars uponit7771 Dec 2020 #8
FTP. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #10
"Defund" "Reform" "Police the Police" wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #18

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,032 posts)
7. That child had to do without his hearing aids for 2 weeks.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:47 AM
Dec 2020

Not only was he traumatized by the glass suddenly exploding, screaming monsters in riot gear, seeing his mother dragged out, but he lost the sounds he was used to hearing. His world was shattered.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
4. I hope she has a very, very good lawyer...
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:56 AM
Dec 2020

May I also say that of all the unions in the US, the police “unions” need to be decertified and broken up. The current system is not working out.

There are other unions for City and County workers, and they can join those. In them they will find the usual protections for civil service employees, but they will never — ever — be untouchable by the law. They will not be allowed to act as gangs of thugs.



Hekate

(90,189 posts)
11. AFSCME would be just fine. Who the hell do they think they are, an occupying army?
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 01:53 PM
Dec 2020

We pay their salaries to protect us from bad guys (as they so often like to point out), not be judge, jury, and public executioner on the basis of some whim.

“Defund” is the wrong word. We need to be able to vote for people who will go after their budgets line by line — including the parts where millions of tax dollars go to settlements while nothing changes. We need to take away all the military toys that BushCheney gifted to them after 9-11. All that shit they have such easy access to belongs in the National Guard Armory under lock and key.

All their “unions” with their special off-premises training and their special gang-tattoos and special initiations need to be decertified. There’s a nice legal process for that. And then go after the gang members with the seriousness the situation deserves. I’m looking at you, Los Angeles.

AFSCME would be just fine. Regular hiring and firing would be just fine. Normal resume checks that mean something would be just fine. A person that screws up so badly at a County job that they get fired has to drag that around on their resume forever — not get rehired right away in another locale or another state with a wink and a toothy grin.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
13. yes, they do think they are an occupying army.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:28 PM
Dec 2020

at the same time crying their lil eyes out about having to go on domestic and mental health calls.
i can defend defund. but ppl are tooo stupid to get it.

take away their military crap. have you seen the packs they carry these days? w the vests and the redundant weapons, they must weigh 40 lbs. every time i see them, i think of how dog fighters make their dogs wear weighted vests.

and here in chi, all summer, they were chicken to get out of their squads.
and they dont wear f'ing masks, either. i was a witness to a car crash a month or so ago. i had a vid of the passengers getting out of the car, taking off.
the cop that came didnt have a mask. i asked him to put one on. no. till a guy asked him, then, of course...
because i walked away after i showed him the vid, he said i was refusing too cooperate.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
14. Make the police unions pay the damages for lawsuits brought against bad officers.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:48 PM
Dec 2020

It's the first instinct for someone abused, like the victim in the OP, to want to sue because
of the injustice. But the city, i.e. the citizens, pay that bill. If the police unions had to pay,
they would demand much more professional actions from the police men and women.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
16. In conjunction with other things I mentioned it would go a long way. They need to stop...
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:54 PM
Dec 2020

...seeing themselves as so damn special they get to have their own gang tattoos, among other things. Cities and counties need to fire their asses after paying out millions for wrongdoing.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
17. .
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 05:12 PM
Dec 2020
We pay their salaries to protect us from bad guys (as they so often like to point out), not be judge, jury, and public executioner on the basis of some whim.
What's the difference between "protecting us from bad guys" and "being judge, jury and public executioner"? What mission are you giving police here?

“Defund” is the wrong word. We need to be able to vote for people who will go after their budgets line by line — including the parts where millions of tax dollars go to settlements while nothing changes.
Go after their budgets -- to what end? Making settlement money unavailable? that's defunding.

We need to take away all the military toys that BushCheney gifted to them after 9-11. All that shit they have such easy access to belongs in the National Guard Armory under lock and key.
And the AFSCME-represented cops say they need such tools to go after the "bad guys" you say you want protection from and the city gives it to them. Now what?

All their “unions” with their special off-premises training and their special gang-tattoos and special initiations need to be decertified. There’s a nice legal process for that. And then go after the gang members with the seriousness the situation deserves. I’m looking at you, Los Angeles.
While cops don't belong in the Labor movement, Democrats do not want to get in the habit of decertifying public employee unions.

Regular hiring and firing would be just fine. Normal resume checks that mean something would be just fine.
You say these things as if they're common sense, but what do you mean by them?

My point with these annoying questions is that reforms have been tried for decades. Reforms are what got us George Floyd. It's impossible for a police force to reform its way out of a legacy designed to be oppressive.

Cerridwen

(13,251 posts)
5. Lawrencia Bembeneck....was white and "traditionally pretty" er, "Bambi" Bembenek
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:04 AM
Dec 2020

Perhaps read about her to see what comes next.

The cops smeared her, her name, her life...why? Nothing to do with her sexual harassment complaints against "the force," I'm sure.

Gee, and people wonder why "police unions/fraternal organizations and "brother"hoods aren't quite so popular with the "working classes."

Unfortunately, as a woman who is even more other than us "white" women, I dread to read about Ms. Young's experience following this.

Please tell me there is some form of civilian protection for her and her family.

Wiki's kinda okay on this...kinda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Bembenek

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
8. They don't understand until the officers are in jail and the city has given out millions of dollars
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:49 AM
Dec 2020

... being fired is a vacation for thug cops

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
18. "Defund" "Reform" "Police the Police"
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 06:47 PM
Dec 2020

I don't care what you call it, just get these sons of bitches off the streets.

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