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Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 02:59 PM Dec 2020

But Biden thinks he can compromise and work with these assholes

It’s not just trump, but 99% of the GOP Congress hasn’t recognized Biden’s win, some have joined on to or supported frivolous lawsuits, and one has volunteered to speak the case to the SCOTUS,

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Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
1. What else can he do? If we don't get the Senate, there is no other option.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:00 PM
Dec 2020

And if the GOP doesn't cooperate...we run against the do nothing congress.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
3. He can call them out every single day. But he won't. Koombayah and que sera,sera. Get used to it.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:06 PM
Dec 2020

Just not in his nature, which is actually a GOOD THING in most parts of life, but, politics in these perilous times, maybe not so much.

It's gonna be like 4 years of telling cockroaches in your kitchen to "shoo!" but never pulling out the can of Raid.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
4. Like Obama, it is advantageous to be SEEN reaching across the aisle.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:09 PM
Dec 2020

One assumes that Biden actually knows that is untenable, and he will need to twist arms and offer inducements.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
8. Part of the problem here is our bullshit media. And their constant pursue of "neutrality". One can
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:24 PM
Dec 2020

be objective but not necessarily neutral. If they were truly objective. They would've devoted way more time to explain to folks how every single overture by the Obama WH was shit on by these monsters. Instead of their bullshit "both-siderism".

Like now, if anyone's going on about made up fraud and someone else says there isn't. It's not "well, there you have it folks. One side says this. The other says that. You figure out who's lying...". The press has been a little better on this instance specifically. Although they still invite too many lunatics with nothing to contribute, for my taste.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
9. I tend to only watch TRMS or LW on Cable.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:07 PM
Dec 2020

They brook no Bothsiderism.

I haven't noticed it much in the NYT recently; in general, they are calling a spade a spade, albeit in their frustratingly polite tone.

I don't read much other print except DU stuff.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
12. One can also assume the advantages to the non-MF45ers who want to see them not
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:18 PM
Dec 2020

even pretend to reach out to fascists. I'd go so far as to just call them fascists. What are they going to do? Deny it? Go ahead. That bed's been made.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
14. I think you're exactly right. The hyperbole in the OP aside
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 05:12 PM
Dec 2020

I think it’s probably more accurate to say Biden believes there are a few GOP senators he “may” be able to work with on some things that have broad popularity. Coronavirus relief being an example.

IMO it’s an attack on Biden to infer he is incapable of understanding the current state of the GOP or hopelessly naive, as some in the thread have done.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Yes. President Biden will be able to give them what they must
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 05:33 PM
Dec 2020

have to get anything they want done, or withhold it.

There's more going on here, though. We HAVE to restore a functioning government or at some point our democracy will fail. We won't win every cliffhanger. And it won't be Sanders' magical thinking socialism that takes over but an extremely powerful fascistic kleptocracy with strong white and Christian nationalist components.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
5. All of that devotion to Trump but the enigma is
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:10 PM
Dec 2020

The 377 to 37 bipartisan veto proof majority vote for Defense appropriations yesterday in the house that Trump promised to derail. Republicans didn’t even flinch.
It’s like, yea we love Trump but not nearly as much as we do our defense contractors.

fearnobush

(3,960 posts)
6. Privately they may have said otherwise
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 03:10 PM
Dec 2020

But he would be a fool to think they’ll compromise with him if they win the Georgia senate seats.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
10. Joe Biden is walking a tightrope at the moment
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:09 PM
Dec 2020

Even if we win the GA runoffs, the 'majority' will be by the slimmest of margins requiring Kamala to come to the rescue time and time again. That behooves Biden to at least try an outreach to the more reasonable members of the Senate--Romney, Collins, Murkowski, etc.

Biden has had a past relationship with McConnell?

I don't have much hope in this direction; McConnell has proven himself a total toad and obstructionist. But again, trying is not a political sin. In fact, not trying would be political malfeasance. Biden has years and years of legislative experience. He knows how the Senate operates and when and how to twist arms. But there's only so much that can be done. Without a clear majority, we are once again bent over a political barrel.

So, even if all Biden's efforts are for naught, I'm willing to give him props for making the attempt. Because without the Congressional wins we were expecting, this is going to be a very heavy lift to get the country back on the rails, let alone push through necessary reforms.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
13. If he hasn't learned the futility of that approach
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 05:02 PM
Dec 2020

from his 8 years with Obama I doubt he's going to learn it now.

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