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The Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson On The Ads That Actually WorkedPart 1 of our Q&AA with the veteran political strategist
Rick Wilson is a co-founder of conservative, anti-Trump PAC The Lincoln Projectthats the first thing he mentions in his Twitter bio. The second thing, tellingly, is ad guy.
He made his name over the decades as a high-powered, highly effective Republican political strategistwho then famously broke from the GOP over its embrace of Trumpbut when it comes right down to it, Wilson thinks of himself as a guy who makes ads for a living.
The Lincoln Project, of course, pumped out a lot of adswith such finesse and success, under Wilsons creative direction, that Ad Age has named the PAC one of 2020s Marketers of the Year. In this in-depth conversation, Wilson (speaking by phone from his home in Tallahassee, Fla.) reveals some of the art and science behind TLPs barrage of remarkable, agenda-setting, viral political ads.
Key excerpt:
We have very specific metrics in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, that we played a decisive role.
And what does that data show? Who did you shift?
We moved former Republicans, independents and current Republicans over what we call the Bannon Line. Steve Bannon, who is no fan of us, said, early in the process, if these guys can move 2% or 3% of the Republican vote, Trump is gonna lose. Well, from the metrics were showing, in the swing states, where we spent I would say 80% to 85% of our resources, we moved the Bannon Line, and crossover Republican votes, between 9% and 13%.
https://adage.com/article/campaign-trail/lincoln-projects-rick-wilson-ads-actually-worked/2300051
Nimble_Idea
(2,849 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)GusBob
(8,246 posts)There were so many ads its hard to remember them all, but the "skit" ( It was too long to be an ad) with the guy waking up in the hospital from a 3-year coma, I will never forget that one
This sort of stuff fascinates me. I wonder a couple of things:
What will they do next? this may sound crazy, but I'd like to see them get into climate change
Will there style be copied? dumb question
I see this was part one of an interview, thanks for posting
George II
(67,782 posts)....ads for the two runoff races. A couple are against the republican, a couple are in favor of the Democrat, which I liked seeing.
I don't remember the skit video - I'll have to look that one up.
PS - part 2 of the interview might be up on that site within days.
"Wake up" or "A Republican wakes up" I think
Watch when the nurse walks out, and then the doctor great deadpan humour
3catwoman3
(29,403 posts)...can be seen?
moonscape
(5,722 posts)well done. It showed how dangerous and pathetic he ismat the same time. Imwatched that one a number of times.
LiberalArkie
(19,798 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(156,619 posts)AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)William Seger
(12,442 posts)The overall results show that plenty of Republicans voted, but many of them don't like Trump.
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)and they were also successful in preventing some from hamstringing Biden with unicorn proposals.
Sucha NastyWoman
(3,019 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 10, 2020, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)
For what they did, and giving them credit for being an important part of the reason for our success.
I never would have thought that any Republican organization could/would have done what they did, and even if we never end up on the same side again, I will have enormous respect for them. That is why I sent them donations.
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)or opposed any of his nominees. (Unlike some of our own)
Duppers
(28,469 posts)betsuni
(29,075 posts)ChazII
(6,448 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,685 posts)Right. Yeah, yeah. Part of this isnt rocket science. Its just, like, what would we be doing? How would we be doing this?
How would you fight yourself, basically.
Right!
.............
I wish Democrats would be able to just shoo away all the rabid PC police in the party. Say "sorry, but this is war, you'll have to sit in the back for now until we get this dirty work done". He gave a good example. Even if there is the perfect clip to make a great and cutting point against Republicans...
"they would say, Well, you know, there arent enough soldiers of color in that shot, so we cant use it.
If it wasn't that, it might be "Well, you know, that makes Trump supporters look too unreasonable, and we have to reach out"
or "We can't even imply that Trump or any of the GOP of anything criminal or treasonous, if it hasn't been proven in a court"
So sick of sabotaging our own chances because we have to tip toe, while the GOP stomps through the china shop then points at us as the culprits.
George II
(67,782 posts)...Biden's picks for his Cabinet and Department Heads. Half of them had that one thing that wasn't pure enough for them.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,685 posts)One is how far the Democratic party is willing to go in ads against Republicans, and their trepidation to offend anyone. And that by the time they check off all the PC boxes, there is nothing left but pablum.
The other is the willingness internally, within the party to acknowledge the progressive wing, which is growing, and has a lot of support outside of the Washington bubble. And the willingness to move away from appointing Department heads that are financially or otherwise connected to the industries that are affected by that department's decisions.
Such as Biden's senoir chief advisor, Cedric Richmond. How hard will he push for climate change policy?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/19/senior-biden-adviser-set-for-key-role-has-ties-to-oil-and-gas-climate-activists-warn
a Guardian investigation last year, revealing his extensive donations from oil, gas and chemical industries, as well as his perceived indifference to local air pollution issues.
Richmonds congressional district, which encompasses the city of New Orleans and a number of highly polluted communities along the Mississippi River, is home to seven of the 10 most air-polluted census tracts in America, according to EPA data. This is largely due to the continued proliferation of oil and gas refineries and petrochemical plants.
................
The Sunrise Movement, a youth-led climate group that pushed Biden to intensify his climate platform, called Richmonds hire a betrayal.
Today feels like a betrayal, because one of President-elect Bidens very first hires for his new administration has taken more donations from the fossil fuel industry during his congressional career than nearly any other Democrat, cozied up to big oil and gas, and stayed silent and ignored meeting with organizations in his own community while they suffered from toxic pollution and sea-level rise, said Sunrises executive director, Varshini Prakash.
But like I said, that is for another thread.
George II
(67,782 posts)....with just about everyone in our "tent". People have to realize that NO one is perfect, not even me!
As for that fossil fuel criticism, contributors are categorized for the industry they work in (I agree, the subject for another discussion) but people from all sorts of occupations within the "fossil fuel industry" are lumped together into one big bucket. That could include:
Clerical workers
Book keepers
Maintenance workers
Oil rig workers
Cleaning workers
Cafeteria workers
Auto repair workers
Service station workers
Truck Drivers
Etc.
If they pump gas at their local gas station and indicate that in their form that accompanies their contributions, they're lumped into the "fossil fuel industry".
Cedric Richmond is the (ONLY) Democratic Representative from Louisiana. Their economy relies on the "fossil fuel" industry, and no doubt the huge majority of his contributions come from every day workers who happen to work for Exxon, Shell, Chevron, etc. in Louisiana.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,685 posts)That means we must listen to each other, and know that for the most part we all want much the same thing, even if we have different opinions on how or how fast, we should try and get there.
Since you went there.....I'm not perfect either.
I would say that there is a vast difference between a politician accepting huge donations from the fossil fuel industry, vs. some truck driver that gets a two week pay check from them. The politician has more of a choice, and has much more power.
But I take your point that he still has to answer to all those menial workers who may lose their employment if refineries are shut down, or even if its just new regulations, the companies will make sure the local papers make a stink about it, and they will always say it threatens workers (because they get layed off if there are not enough profits). So he has to be careful.
If Republicans would share the responsibility for a change to be the "bad parent" it would sure help. No help in fighting global climate change, telling industry they have to clean up, just like no help with fighting COVID by telling citizens they must wear masks. No help with discriminatory justice, telling the cops more money is going to community relations and less towards military weaponry. No help with even the most mild gun regulations. They get to always be the lax parent that says its okay to have that candy bar right before supper.....just don't tell mom. And I can see why that would be appealing to some, especially the selfish, already entitled lot.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)What you call the rabid PC police are fringe elements if they're in the party at all. Most aren't and spend their most rabid energies attacking us.
But you need to remember that Republican tactics repel liberals. We can't copy them without losing more than we draw. LP ads are great, they mostly targeted Republicans, and our voters also knew they were from never-Trumper conservatives.
Our party aired its own ads that our strategists know from decades of experience are what liberals want from those they can put their faith in. The vast majority featured Biden talking hope, the soul of America, and plans for the future and getting a hit or two in on Trump. Yada, yada. Boringly unchanged as our principles and goals always are decade in, decade out -- extremely unlike the far better show the fascists are putting on, but people must need to hear it or we wouldn't be spending hundreds of millions doing it.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)But that may be changing. If we become a party that is loyal to our own, vote D while holding our nose, and just get the votes, then things can change.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)Nice doesn't work in politics. As they say in DC, if you want to be loved, buy a dog.
But I'm tired of Democrats continuing to reach out to the fascists & criminals that made it perfectly clear they want all the power to themselves, and are willing to kill to do it.
Let's face it, for America to live, Trumpism and the GOP must die, and we must not hesitate to club them like baby seals when the opportunity presents itself.
Sorry, but that's the way it is. Mercy is for the weak.
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)Obama was about as close as we came, and that was only on the campaign trail, and only by seeding today with tomorrow's issues and countering the opposition within hours, same day.
The rest of the time, we're practical but flogged by Republicans. We say balance the budget, they say deficits don't matter, then when we're in office deficits are the only issue and we're the cause of red ink.
Warpy
(114,614 posts)to all the techniques these guys have been using because if the Republicans find a guy who can tie his own shoes in 2024, they'll be back to using them against us.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)My Pet Orangutan
(12,598 posts)stripping out educated/thoughtful voters in strongly Republican areas.
William Seger
(12,442 posts)My Pet Orangutan
(12,598 posts)Its the sort of the negative aspirational concept. Where youre saying to people, youre not just making a political decision, youre buying into a whole lifestyle. Is your lifestyle the Alt-Right and the screamers and the crazies and the QAnon and the Confederate flag and the Charlottesville boys? We understood the social power of those ads to block those Republicans who split from the party from coming back. We understood that pushing that angle was a central mission.
https://adage.com/article/campaign-trail/lincoln-projects-rick-wilson-ads-actually-worked/2300051
"America or Trump" (the latter said with barely disguised disgust)
betsuni
(29,075 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)I can hardly wait for Part 2
My Pet Orangutan
(12,598 posts)to put Joe Biden on screen saluting troops and have jet fighters flying overhead."
Hekate
(100,133 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)But as a Georgia citizen I've not seen a single Lincoln Project Ad air on TV!! I was hoping to see them roll out tons of them over & over all the time for the Senate run off for 05 January 2021.
I will admit I do not watch much TV at all & the TV I do watch is DVR TV...But I see tons of political Ads & I've never seen a Lincoln Project Ad aired in Georgia & that upsets me!! I do see them all the time on YouTube & other places like Twitter but not on local TV where they need to be airing!!
...Has anyone else living in Georgia seen a Lincoln Project Ad on TV???
LiberalArkie
(19,798 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Like I said I don't watch a lot of TV...But I've not seen any in the ATL. Not saying they haven't been aired here in the ATL I've just not seen them among all the rest of the others.
melman
(7,681 posts)AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)It is quite interesting that Bernie worshipers detest the Lincoln Project because with a vast centrist and moderate republican support, their ability to extract concessions from Joe Biden evaporated.
Otherwise, there should be no reason to attack a group that is helping the Democratic party.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)One thing is FO SHO!! ...They ain't hurtin!!
scipan
(3,041 posts)I also see support from others like me on twitter.
spooky3
(38,632 posts)The viral ads Priorities USA is referring to. Wilson cites evidence that those instate ads were effective.
My Pet Orangutan
(12,598 posts)"... preventing Republicans who had gone away from the party, from going back".
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The analysis (I call it that loosely) ignored all ad buys other than online advertising. Meaning, it's not analysis at all... merely another editorial predicated on incomplete data.
'Huh, what?'
Goodness gracious.
melman
(7,681 posts)Proof that comes from someone other than Rick Wilson or other LP people.
Can't wait to see it!
Joinfortmill
(21,161 posts)BannonsLiver
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The bleating about the TLP is always good for a laugh.
Gothmog
(179,822 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,869 posts)...the progressive who actually helped us win the WH?
George II
(67,782 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,869 posts)...Rick Wilson.
I agree that praising Kamala instead would make much more sense! She actually did helped us win. Wilson is just a repub jerk.
George II
(67,782 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,869 posts)Good to hear!
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)The continuous hate attacks from the far left is instructive as to how successful they have been.
Cha
(319,067 posts)just Exposed trump for the Hell Monster he is.
betsuni
(29,075 posts)Then I see TLP, masters of messaging, criticized for its ads not being successful. Which is it? Is messaging the most important thing or isn't it?
melman
(7,681 posts)then they're hardly masters of messaging.
betsuni
(29,075 posts)Sounds pretty good.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)The more far left folks are saying that the LP was a bust because they didn't convert half the GOP base to our side.
That's not a realistic expectation. Rick Wilson's calculations with regard to the Bannon line were what worked.
And yes, I'll say it - Democrats and progressives in general have kicked some terrible own-goals.
Like "Defund the Police" AUGH!!! That has my poli-sci professors screaming in my head - that is really bad framing! It's not the cause, it's the slogan. Yes, it bit us in the ass this election.
I bring this up, and they start saying "What Defund the Police really means is..."
WRONG. When you have to explain your slogan, you've already lost. How about Police the Police?
STRATEGY, FOLKS!
Some of the progressives I talked to on Twitter treated me like I was a tone-policing white-bread bougie quisling for saying this. FFS.
betsuni
(29,075 posts)but I guess it all gets mixed up. Police the Police is a great slogan.
"tone-policing white-bread bougie quisling" -- at least that's a little creative! I see a lot of the same old insults: you must be wealthy centrist neoliberal racists. Boring.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)Well, they don't get to blame me when they can't seem to get anything done - I already told them why they struggled, but they didn't like my answer.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)I understand the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
But they could have turned that against our pick.
Hes a little dirtbag.
Trigger warning: right wing website.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rick-wilson-confederate-cooler-and-wifes-racist-tweets-go-viral-after-gop-strategist-self
I couldnt find a left website that would let me copy it. If someone can, Ill edit this
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)They went viral with ads like Mourning in America & Covita - everything from serious talk on the issues to some epic comedy. That and they amplified their message with their podcasts, streaming shows and constant appearances on the cable news circuit.
I also enjoyed the psy-ops ads they did, like Whispers. Remember, they made a point of airing them on FOX "News" on shows like Fox & Fiends in the DC market, when they knew Trump himself was watching. And they got some epic Trump Twitter tantrums from him - taking him off message for a news cycle or six, and getting him to kick some epic own-goals. And it was schadenfreudelicious to watch the LP pour salt, lemon juice, and rubbing alcohol into Trump's narcissistic ego wounds!
George II
(67,782 posts)....methodically and were spurred to go out and vote.
It's no secret that Biden got more than 81 million votes - 12 million more than candidate in history. That's the result of several factors, not the least being the work of The Lincoln Project.
It should also be noted parenthetically that Joe Biden was the VP candidate for Barack Obama's previous record of 69 million votes.