What is your considered opinion about 17 states joining the Texas suit at SCOTUS?

[skip fox]

Remember, they only have to win with this shit once and SCOTUS is conservative.

Will Trump call up individual members?

Will any cave due to the additional states and Trump's pressure.

How many justices does he need for the case to be heard?

Bottom line question: Should we worry?

[Alhena]

1. No, there are several legal reasons this case is a non-starter- states joining is a political act

playing to their MAGA bases.

[grumpyduck]

24. My sentiments exactly.

Also, they're afraid to NOT speak up -- don't want to be labeled traitors.

IOW, they're a bunch of fucking cowards.

[Boogiemack]

57. If it is possible, all the Ads in every one of those states should be removed. nt

[Gothmog]

2. Marc Elias is not worried

Link to tweet

[Mike 03]

19. Thank you for posting this.

[ananda]

29. Elias also said..

If you add 17 clowns to the circus, it's still a circus.

[Gothmog]

31. LOL

Marc is correct

[wiggs]

3. there's something to this that we aren't seeing. nt

[skip fox]

5. Is Barr in the background?

[hamsterjill]

52. My concern, as well

They are too confident for my comfort.

[beaglelover]

4. Yes, in today's environment, I'm a bit worried about this case and what it could do.

[marylandblue]

6. Not worried at all. This is BS and the SCOTUS dismissed the same arguments yesterday.

If they were inclined to go along, they would have already.

[AkFemDem]

7. I know it's de rigueur around here to mock concern

But I don’t get it, Trump and his surrogates have proven time and again for 4 years they will do anything to survive- anything. Break any law, call in any favor, silence any critic, anything.

My belief is the Supreme Court, even the conservatives on it, believe in rule of law and have no desire to have this mess attached to them in any way and this effort will go nowhere.

But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t at least a little concerned, that I might be wrong.

[lame54]

10. 1/20 can't come fast enough

[Mike 03]

20. I never ridicule DUers for being concerned.

Many of those who do are whistling past a graveyard IMO. I'm concerned about a lot of things--not particularly this lawsuit, but the "inside job" on Joe, Kamala and our Democracy.

[brooklynite]

27. No, they will TRY anything to survive...

...their record of accomplishment speaks for itself.

[hamsterjill]

55. Exactly. So if this fails, what next?

Martial law is being thrown around on the QAnon Facebook pages. I realize what I just said, but the more desperate Trump becomes, the more desperate he will act.

I’m not trying to “fear monger”. But no one with an ounce of sense is going to be comfortable until Biden is sworn in.

[Mz Pip]

42. Overturning the votes in 4 states

would be a death blow to our democracy. No matter how partisan some of those judges might be would any of them want that in their obituary?

[roamer65]

53. The republic will be finished.

If Michigan’s votes are nullified, then we have a right to secede.

This Michigander will be ready to vote “yes” for the secession referendum.

[Crunchy Frog]

44. Same. I've gotten pretty anxious about all this shit that he's been pulling.

While I don't think that the SC is likely to go anywhere with this, I still can't help feeling a little nervous.

The sequence of events between an election being called, and inauguration has always just happened automatically, that I never realized what a gauntlet it actually is, and how many steps there are that people of bad faith can fuck around with.

I don't know that I'm going to make it through the lame duck period with my psyche intact.

[C_U_L8R]

8. Republican welfare states gonna get their funding yanked

I've had it with these needy, whiny, know-nothing do-nothings. They can fuck off and fend for themselves.

[GemDigger]

17. Well thanks.

I cannot tell you how disappointed I was to see our own AG on that list. But hey, I live in a red state so I should just fuck off.

I know you didn't mean it that way but reading it was like a kick in the gut.

[C_U_L8R]

40. Please don't take it personally -it's a gut punch for all

And I hope all your GOTV efforts are wildly successful

[roamer65]

49. You may want to consider moving to a northern blue state.

We have the option of confederation with Canada.

Southern red states will not have that option.

[hlthe2b]

9. The states amicus briefs don't even claim "Texas is right nor support their claims"--just that

the case is "important." Just a stunt.

Link to tweet

[Mike 03]

21. Yeah, I noticed that too.

This is very weak sauce, and pretty embarrassing. But it's going to fool a lot of imbeciles who watch Newsmax and OAN.

[Gothmog]

32. I skimmed the amicus brief and I noticed this also

[Jim__]

11. We should not have to worry. I don't believe there is any legal merit to the case.

However, the Supreme Court has been politicized and this is an extremely politically charged case. I do have concerns.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

12. tRump and Repubs want to keep this going for as long as possible to keep the donations coming in.

It's a political theater performance to keep the gullible giving and the media spinning.

[tirebiter]

13. Joining Ken Paxton for anything proves they are the losers.

Willing to operate from coverup of the truth. Beyond that, ptooey

[Yeehah]

14. The USA is a failed state due to traitorous republicans and unlimited money in elections

Really don't see a bright future ahead with so many republicans abandoning American values and ideals.

[blogslut]

15. They didn't "join"

They wrote a thing saying they want the court to take a look. The 17 states are not co-plaintiffs.

[PoliticAverse]

16. That's correct. They merely filed a "friend of the court" opinion letter. n/t

[Mike 03]

22. Yes, this is a very important point.

These briefs are window dressing. Or maybe fig leaves to cover them with Trump, depending on how you look at it.

[exboyfil]

25. So they prostitute their office for a political stunt

That of course is reprehensible.

[Kaleva]

18. It's a way to fool the MAGAs into thinking that they are fighting for Trump w/o actually doing so.

[TheRealNorth]

23. We shouldn't be worried

But with a GOP that is approaching full goose-stepping Fascism, I am worried.

[Rice4VP]

26. What's to stop Blue states from suing Texas and Florida

in four years. I don’t think it’s going anywhere and they don’t have standing. This seems very basic to me.

If they had an issue with it they should’ve sued BEFORE the election. The first question (if SCOTUS decides to hear it) should be, “would you have brought this case if Trump had won and why didn’t you sue Florida and other states that had mail in voting?”

[skip fox]

36. Let's hope it never gets to that, that it is never heard.

Will we find out tomorrow?

[Make7]

50. What's to stop PA, GA, MI, and WI from suing TX this year?

Texas changed their voting rules to allow drive-thru voting in response to the pandemic. Republicans in Texas went to court claiming that the drive-thru voting violated the Constitution.

Why shouldn't PA, GA, MI, and WI counter sue Texas to get their Electoral Votes invalidated based on the Republicans very own arguments?

[Rice4VP]

54. Exactly. They should do it. Let's see how the Repugnants respond to that

[NightWatcher]

28. This shit needs to end the way failed coups end in Central America.

Co-conspirators swinging from the bridges. If we don't, we'll see repeats of this garbage every election.

[SeattleVet]

30. And now tRump has filed a "Motion to Intervene" with SCOTUS

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163234/20201209155327055_No.%2022O155%20Original%20Motion%20to%20Intervene.pdf

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, IN HIS PERSONAL CAPACITY AS CANDIDATE FOR RE-ELECTION TO THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT,
Plaintiff in Intervention.

Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, respectfully seeks leave to intervene in the pending original jurisdiction matter of State of Texas v. Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, et al., No. 22O155 (filed Dec. 7, 2020).

Plaintiff in Intervention seeks leave to file the accompanying Bill of Complaint in Intervention against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the States of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin (“Defendant States”), challenging their administration of the 2020 presidential election.

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Lots more in filing - I'm just starting to make my way through it, but it looks like they are counting on tRump having standing as the injured party to bolster the case.

[Baitball Blogger]

33. I think it's time for "good" Republicans to finally step out and take a side.

America? or whatever comes next?

[L.Pharmstrong]

34. Here is the Bill of Complaint filed by Paxton.

I’ve not read all 154 pages, it what o have looked at suggests that it’s nonsense.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf

[honest.abe]

35. Its nonsense no matter how many states join this case.

No state can claim another state is doing their elections incorrectly. Furthermore no fraud has been identified in any of the states so the entire premise is bogus. SCOTUS will dismiss it even though they are majority conservative.

[bluestarone]

37. I fully trust the SMART people on THIS site!

It's going NO FUCKING PLACE!!! TOTAL HOGWASH!!

[KY_EnviroGuy]

38. Political theater and another tRump stain on our Nation's international credibility.

If I'm concerned, it's entirely about the damage to our citizen's faith in the electoral system and government as a whole.

I just regret we don't have enough time to impeach him a second time......

KY

[nuxvomica]

39. I'd like to know which of these states have laws against such tomfoolery

I've not seen who is authorizing these suits, governors or state secs or whatever, but seems to me that there must be statutes prohibiting the use of one's office to engage in political ratfucking and these geniuses should be held accountable. That is the key problem: they do this because the won't be held accountable for it even though it's practically criminal. They are obviously playing for the rabid base and probably don't expect to win, just making a show for the stooges. So what if they should win? What kind of whirlwind might they encounter?

[Chainfire]

41. If the Supreme Court were to overturn the elections

for political reasons, then the Republic is finished. No one could ever have any faith in any future election, and for good cause.
I doubt that even this court wants to preside over the destruction of the United States.

[Liberal In Texas]

43. I'll be worried until this farce is dismissed. I'm sure Dump has been threatening and twisting arms

to get the other states to sign on. I wonder if he's also called the conservs on the Sup Ct. and whined to them.

[regnaD kciN]

46. If he called them, he certainly would have done so on the prior PA suit...

...and we see where that got him.

[regnaD kciN]

45. In the short run, probably not...

...in the long run, I'm less optimistic.

This suit is farcical, but the actions of these other states help to cement the principle that "anything goes" in an election, and that the casting and tabulation of the votes, rather than being the climax and conclusion to a race, is merely the first skirmish in a longer war in which the will of the people (even filtered through the absurdity that is the electoral college) is only one of many factors determining who takes power -- and a possibly-larger factor is who is already in power to sway the outcome.

No, I don't think this effort will succeed, but, as with Pandora's Box, once it's opened, it's inevitable that, sooner or later, one of them will. My best case scenario this time is that the Justices, instead of issuing another one-sentence denial, explicitly throw this out on the grounds that a state has no standing to challenge another state's election process. Unless we get that, we'll be seeing this over and over in the future...and, one time, we won't be so lucky.

[AmericanCanuck]

47. A lot of AGs kissing Trump's ass so they could become governor

[roamer65]

48. If the SCOTUS overturns the election, the Constitution is null and void.

The compact between the states is broken and Michigan is free to secede.

Province of Michigan.

🇨🇦

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

51. I don't think the Supreme Court will appoint Trump supreme unelected

dictator of the US, for life.

[Takket]

56. this is one of the most digusting dispicable things i've seen in all my days

this is an open coup.

i wonder if this is just where America breaks. whether our differences are just irreconcilable and a divorce is eventually coming.

everything about this is just absolutely disgusting. and the case is as baseless and meritless as anything i've ever seen. i mean, for god's sake... they just so happen to only sue the states Biden won that were close? if this suit was about ANYTHING other than committing a coup maybe they should sue EVERY state that had a change in voting rules? only one problem, one of those states is TEXAS. TEXAS is not suing because states changed rules, they are suing because drumpf lost. THAT'S IT.

i wish the rest of these fuckers would just break off and start their own country and leave us the fuck alone. give every decent human being in these states a check for moving expenses so they don't get stuck in Dumbfuckistan, and likewise give every piece of shit living in the USA a check so they can go to Dumbfuckistan.

[onenote]

58. This isn't a petition for cert. It is a motion. And motions require five votes, not four.