Bernie demands 1,200 dollars direct payment for everyone and will not go home without it

[UCmeNdc]

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[MineralMan]

1. He'll be the only one in the Senate chamber, then.

I'm afraid it is an empty threat, really. As much as I'd like to see those $1200 payments, they are not going to happen this year. Maybe in 2021.

[Hortensis]

22. I looked and the media aren't covering his refusal to leave. Maybe if he went on

a hunger strike all alone in the chamber. I-Caucus-of-One knows he's totally helpless to keep McConnell from recessing and he'll be spending Christmas in the comfort of home, DC or VT.

[LizBeth]

2. Mask go over the nose and gonna let millions drown Dec 26 if you do not get it?

[Demsrule86]

8. Honestly, what is wrong with people who don't understand the 1200 would be nice but extended

unemployment is essential.

[LizBeth]

13. Business shutting down again, UI up again. Right? Let millions sink while arguing for 1200.

What kind of Democrat is that.

[Demsrule86]

21. No my kind for sure. We must send help. If McConnell is willing to do covid, money and

unemployment and that is a big if then for fucks sake do it. I still say we lost house seats over the stimulus bill before the election even though it wasn't our fault.

[LizBeth]

23. You got to do it. Otherwise millions of people will go down. One has to decide if expendable or

not. are millions worth this fight and who is the other that is not in the situation to tell me, my life or others cannot matter right now. 1200 is at stake. I mean that is like arguing other stuff we hear lately, how irrelevant so many of us, are.

[LizBeth]

24. Millions. Not a couple hundred, Or a couple thousand or even lots of thousands. Millions.

In a time when more and more are going to be in the same place I am. soon. Yesterday, today and tomorrow. We are literally in a worse crisis than March.

[brewens]

3. It's alright with me if the means test it and I don't get anything. I'm retired on disability

and don't have a whole lot, but I'm doing okay. I sure wouldn't mind a little more stimuli though. I'm one that is lucky enough to have been able to use the last one to knock a big chunk off my credit card debt. Another $1200 would get it way down.

[mtnsnake]

4. So what's not to like about it?

He's fighting his hardest to get help to the people who need it the most. Has anyone seen the length of the food lines out there?

[LizBeth]

5. Sanders waited until the last days to jump in the fight when it is clear that is not on the table

as a deadline approaches for for UI that will kick millions off. Why isn't he fighting for that? Something that can be done? Why draw a line where no one is going to go and then say all or nothing? Why wait until the final days to even say anything? Pelosi has been fighting for months and silence from Sanders,. Now he sees something might be done for millions and he says he will not vote for it unless he gets the 1200. What's not to like? Mucking up for those millions that need UI to be extended.

[Hortensis]

7. The entire Democratic senate was as one fighting for it,

none of them posturing for media spotlighting because getting the aid to the people was what mattered. House Dems passed a complete and generous bill last May, gathering dust on McConnell's desk since.

I-Sanders always pretends Democrats do nothing and are really one with the Republicans, so that he's forced to do a heroic Don Quixote tilt into their vacuum of caring.

BUT, most of the Sanders left is already as convinced that the Democrats are corrupt corporatist shills as the trumpists are that we're radical socialists. Thus, little harm left to do Democrats on either side.

So, if this happens to focus more attention from the rest of the citizenry on the Republicans' depraved indifference to their wellbeing, maybe it'll do some good.

It's really not too much to say that the direction the nation and planet will go, and certainly what Democrats desperately want and need to be ABLE to accomplish, depend on the two GA senate races in a little over 3 weeks. If we win, no more McConnell. Surely Sanders should want that.

[LizBeth]

14. I long ago let go of some politicians rising above ego for the good of the people. All he has to

say is, I fight with Pelosi to get you that 1200. Not walk out Monday and the first comment on this stimulus package is, I won't vote for the Pelosi bill if it hits the senate floor. Telling all us UI deadline millions, ah well sucks to be you. All or nothing. He made the choice for that to be his first step into what others had been working on for months. He chose to draw the line at the 1200, not millions being kicked off UI, the little we were getting. He is the one to choose to give me personally, the finger. If I am angry, I think I at least have that right.

[Hortensis]

19. We all have that right, righteously! I'm hoping that in this crazy

environment some good might come from this miserably hypocritical self-aggrandizing stunt.

In an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper Monday, the socialist two-time presidential candidate noted Pelosi’s hypocrisy in endorsing a smaller bipartisan $908 million deal last week after rejecting the twice-as-large proposal from President Trump in October.

“Democrats walked away from that deal because they wanted $2.2 trillion,” Tapper said.

“That’s right!” Sanders (I-Vt.) responded, confirming he blamed Democrats, not Republicans, for months of inaction. (The Democrats passed their aid bill in May.)

“They walked away from $1.8 trillion, was that a mistake?” Tapper asked.

“That’s what I’m saying. That’s exactly what I’m saying,” Sanders said.

Democrats have been unwilling to shift from their demand for $2.2 trillion in relief and have rejected two smaller proposals from Senate Republicans that would have included more targeted relief for small businesses.

[LizBeth]

26. Wow, Totally callious and lazer focused would be the best I can say with that. That he did not even

kind of get the callousness of those statements not to mention ineptness with facts. Surely not. No no no. Wow. It is like the same misinformation, gaslighting we constantly have to deal with on the right. I am so old and done with this.

[Hortensis]

28. Yes. The overlap with RW attack themes is not coincidental,

of course, but a long, synergistic pattern that serves both sides.

It's existentially important that more people recognize the great similarities of goals and techniques, and even some aspects of ideology, between the "revolutionary" far left and the seditious trumpian right. As long as what's happening on the right poses an enormous danger to all our futures, the partnership with them of LW hostiles, whom we once smiled at in satisfaction as a manifestation of democracy in action, seriously increases that danger. The common animosity of the two toward the impediments our liberal democracy poses is much stronger than any similarities to us.

[Demsrule86]

11. I wish I knew.

[LizBeth]

16. Sanders waited until the last minute to even insert himself in the discussion. Months, silence.

His choice on Monday, his first comment, on Monday when Pelosi looked to have momentum was to step to the mike and declare he would not vote for the UI extension. First comment he said. First declarati0on, he would not vote on a bill that would extend millions of people's UI.

There should me millions of people angry. Every right for millions to be angry, as we watch the deadline approach, a mess of covid out there with winter and holidays and Sanders not fighting for me.

I have not heard Sanders make one single comment about the UI deadline. Not one. Not one word about millions being kicked off. Nada. Silence.

[NurseJackie]

18. This kind of political showboating serves NO good purpose at all.

I have not heard Sanders make one single comment about the UI deadline. Not one. Not one word about millions being kicked off. Nada. Silence.

Thank you.

[Demsrule86]

20. If we get nothing...is it his fault? Maybe. However, McConnell is a piece of shit.

We should not give him ammo.

[LizBeth]

27. I know he stepped in The dems lane of race to cause Pelosi to have to stop, slow down, go around.

I know it now has clouded the very real issue of millions sinking, unnecessarily and caused controversy in a conversation we needed facts and action. I know once again, a mishandling that may be an ingredient just like in the past that hurts the very working people we profess to care about, whatever the excuse. I wonder if it is ineptness or purposely done.

[Demsrule86]

9. That is not helpful. We need unemployment.

[comradebillyboy]

6. Another empty gesture from Sanders.

[onenote]

10. Bernie looking to get some attention.

[Brainfodder]

12. $1200 is a month of minimum wage pay, that's the #, and we all know it's not nearly enough today!?!

Meanwhile, this is what we get from these folks being paid $14,5000ish per month?


Who among us can get by multiple months on $1200?

Yes we want your pittance, but it's not nearly enough, DUH!

It's MATH, heard of it Senators?

[AmericanCanuck]

15. I suppose he is not going home till February

[NurseJackie]

17. Is a mask effective when you wear it just below your nose?

https://www.nj.com/news/2020/07/coronavirus-question-is-a-mask-effective-when-you-wear-it-just-below-your-nose.html

Is a mask effective when you wear it just below your nose?

A: No. A mask is not effective if it is worn below the nose, because respiratory droplets come from sneezing as well as coughing. Nasal secretions can contain the coronavirus in an infected person, and covering the nose can help prevent transmission since the virus can infect an individual by entry through the nasal passages. This means that if you sneeze into the open air, you can put another person at risk of being exposed to your germs. Moreover, wearing a mask over your nose not only helps others from you potentially transmitting the coronavirus, but it decreases the risk of you — the mask-wearer — from contracting it as well.

[Captain Stern]

25. I guess he's serious if he's threatening to actually stay around to vote on a bill. n/t

[betsuni]

30. Good one.

[Skittles]

29. zzzzzzzzzzzz