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Autumn

(48,962 posts)
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 04:18 PM Dec 2020

AOC For President? Women Lead 2024 Election Odds As Bettors Favor Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Over Harris, Biden & Trump



Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for President in 2024?

That’s what gamblers are saying, as election betting fever is in full effect at sportsbooks and online betting sites across the country.

“Naturally, odds for the next election cycle almost always favor the opponent, in this case Joe Biden, or the current Vice President,” shared Dave Mason of BetOnline.ag.

“But while the 2024 Presidential Election odds list Kamala Harris as the most probable option, AOC is getting the most love from early bettors.”

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the U.S. Representative from New York's 14th congressional district might not see her name on any ballot this November, but sports bettors have appointed her as the early Presidential front runner in 2024.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackjones/2020/11/03/2024-us-presidential-election-odds-women-lead-the-way-as-bettors-favor-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-over-harris-biden--trump/?fbclid=IwAR0oR13C3DycGqTRMREzajruRWhFJn1m_2bRFW-w-mcHCFvDVucTjtW4YNs&sh=1f3965046fd2
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AOC For President? Women Lead 2024 Election Odds As Bettors Favor Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Original Post) Autumn Dec 2020 OP
I would much rather have Katie Porter. She is beyond fit and prepared. Boogiemack Dec 2020 #1
Plus, she grew up on a farm in Iowa. DURHAM D Dec 2020 #5
both NJCher Dec 2020 #9
Will she be old enough? nt DURHAM D Dec 2020 #2
Just Barely ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #8
Actually, Joe Biden is ahead in betting odds for 2024 Cameliano Dec 2020 #3
I would happily vote for her. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #4
I would walk across broken glass to vote for her. Autumn Dec 2020 #11
Seems Like A Sucker Bet ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #6
Yeesh, the 2020 Presidential election isn't even over yet!... PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #7
I think you should delete the thread. AOC ranks 10th in the link cited by the article Cameliano Dec 2020 #10
Forbes is a reputable magazine. The article clearly states that the Autumn Dec 2020 #13
AOC is in a deep blue district. I doubt she could win a statewide race in New York... Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #18
I don't worry about blue wall states. They either go blue or they don't, nothing is certain. Autumn Dec 2020 #19
You are ignoring the link provided by Forbes Cameliano Dec 2020 #29
I posted what Forbes wrote. I'm not here to analyze it. All they claimed was "Harris is the Autumn Dec 2020 #31
Or you can click the betonline.ag link yourself. Here it is Cameliano Dec 2020 #38
Yes it's okay that I posted an article from Forbes that I found interesting. It shows people know Autumn Dec 2020 #40
If they don't go blue,we lose. We have no path that doesn't got through blue wall states. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #32
For 2024? No. JHB Dec 2020 #12
Like the MC said at a talent show back in the 8th grade... grumpyduck Dec 2020 #14
Not going to happen in 2024. It would be nice if she could win a statewide election first, or even still_one Dec 2020 #15
She won't win statewide and is too young. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #16
I love AOC....but why not just run Hilary again if we want to lose...again!?!?! dutch777 Dec 2020 #17
We are running out of time. In 10, certainly in 20 years we may very well not exist. Autumn Dec 2020 #20
Well losing won't help us either... Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #34
I would think Kamala Harris would be next in line for Pres Bev54 Dec 2020 #21
Yup I'd be more inclined to think Kamala -- maybe AOC for VP... Blue Owl Dec 2020 #22
They are both young and will benefit from Bev54 Dec 2020 #30
Works for me. I would love to see her on the debate stage if nothing else. jalan48 Dec 2020 #23
I must be weird or something but I don't care about debates especially primary debates. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #35
I like them. I loved Warren eviscerating Bloomberg. jalan48 Dec 2020 #37
No, just no. nsd Dec 2020 #24
Hummmm. Interesting peggysue2 Dec 2020 #25
LOL. No. NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #26
... AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #27
No PatSeg Dec 2020 #28
It appears things have changed sarisataka Dec 2020 #33
Wow. I didn't realize the article is from before the election results were announced Cameliano Dec 2020 #39
She doesn't have the requisite experience of dealing with both nationwide and international issues. Blue_true Dec 2020 #36
Not a chance. MineralMan Dec 2020 #41
 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
1. I would much rather have Katie Porter. She is beyond fit and prepared.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 04:22 PM
Dec 2020

She would take no prisoners.

ProfessorGAC

(76,704 posts)
6. Seems Like A Sucker Bet
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 04:24 PM
Dec 2020

She doesn't even turn 35 until about a month before that election.
I don't see people voting for someone that young for POTUS.
Obama, Clinton, and Kennedy were young, but the were well over 35 and held public office for quite some time.
I just don't think she can win because of age & experience. Her constituents may love her, but that's not going to win a nationwide election.

 

Cameliano

(54 posts)
10. I think you should delete the thread. AOC ranks 10th in the link cited by the article
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 04:27 PM
Dec 2020

Here is the link provided by the author of the article that you linked to:
https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/2024-usa-presidential-odds-futures
In short, the Forbes article is linkbait containing false information.
Kamala is the favorite in that market and I posted a different ranking from another betting site in my previous comment, where Joe Biden is number one.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
13. Forbes is a reputable magazine. The article clearly states that the
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 04:34 PM
Dec 2020
2024 Presidential Election odds list Kamala Harris as the most probable option, AOC is getting the most love from early bettors.” They have listed Harris as the favorite.

Betting odds don’t always paint the most accurate portrait of the true chances, especially given that LeBron James is listed at 150/1 to win the Oval Office. Yet it does speak volumes about the overall confidence that Biden would be able to compete in 4 years should he win this week’s election.

“We listed Kamala as the favorite simply because its difficult to fathom an 82-year-old on the campaign trail.”



Perhaps you should trash the thread.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
18. AOC is in a deep blue district. I doubt she could win a statewide race in New York...
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 05:04 PM
Dec 2020

I don't see her ever running for president unless demographics really do arrive. On the bright side, being in the House is a good thing. Do you really think she could win blue wall states?

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
19. I don't worry about blue wall states. They either go blue or they don't, nothing is certain.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 05:10 PM
Dec 2020

I believe it all depends on the politician and the circumstances. What plays well in WV won't play well in NY. But many people have won elections in deep blue, purple or red states when they are neither. I believe she could win. Easily

 

Cameliano

(54 posts)
29. You are ignoring the link provided by Forbes
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 07:31 PM
Dec 2020

Are you denying that Alexandra or Casio Cortez is 10th in that list? Did you visit the link, or do you want me to show you a screenshot of the rankings?
Forbes' statement about ocasio-cortez being number one is false

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
31. I posted what Forbes wrote. I'm not here to analyze it. All they claimed was "Harris is the
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 07:41 PM
Dec 2020

most probable option, while AOC is getting the most love from early bettors.” Did you notice that the AOC for President? was in the form of a question?

You are free to contact Zack Jones at Fobes and let him know that he is wrong. He wrote about information he got from Dave Mason of BetOnline.ag. Perhaps if he is wrong he will issue a correction. Or re write it in a manner you find suitable.

 

Cameliano

(54 posts)
38. Or you can click the betonline.ag link yourself. Here it is
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 08:19 PM
Dec 2020
https://mobile.betonline.ag/sports/futures-and-props/politics-futures

As you can see AOC is not at the top.
You fell for a linkbait article with false information and that's okay.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
40. Yes it's okay that I posted an article from Forbes that I found interesting. It shows people know
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 08:27 PM
Dec 2020

who AOC is, not just NY. I don't gamble but I'm sure that nothing stays the same in betting. You can post the one from your link if you want, no one is stopping you.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
32. If they don't go blue,we lose. We have no path that doesn't got through blue wall states.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 07:42 PM
Dec 2020

You must inject a little political reality in elections. I doubt she wins a primary; a person who can win the blue wall states will be nominated. It would be political suicide to do otherwise.

grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
14. Like the MC said at a talent show back in the 8th grade...
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 04:36 PM
Dec 2020

"This isn't a popularity contest."

I feel she won't have anywhere near enough experience in government by 2024 to be president. Later on, depending on her track record, sure, I'd consider her.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
15. Not going to happen in 2024. It would be nice if she could win a statewide election first, or even
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 04:55 PM
Dec 2020

mayor of NYC

There is no evidence that she could win a national election unless she can win a statewide election

dutch777

(5,068 posts)
17. I love AOC....but why not just run Hilary again if we want to lose...again!?!?!
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 05:04 PM
Dec 2020

And that way AOC won't be damaged presidential goods and maybe, just maybe, in 10 or 20 years the almost 1/2 of this country that are closer to Neanderthals than 21st Century humans will be ready for some good new ideas (or dead) and vote accordingly. We have to be realistic about what and who can win a majority of the electorate in whatever race we are talking about. We should certainly have discourse amongst ourselves of what is best for the country, but we'll only be able to make those changes if we win elections and have a governing majority and the bully pulpit.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
20. We are running out of time. In 10, certainly in 20 years we may very well not exist.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 05:11 PM
Dec 2020

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
21. I would think Kamala Harris would be next in line for Pres
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 05:23 PM
Dec 2020

AOC has a lot to learn before she can be president and I don't think she will even old enough then to run. Can we just get this election over before all this speculation, I cannot even believe anyone even wants to talk about another election right now. Aren't you all tired yet?

Blue Owl

(59,104 posts)
22. Yup I'd be more inclined to think Kamala -- maybe AOC for VP...
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 06:18 PM
Dec 2020

But I also really like Pete Buttigieg and think he is presidential material all the way...

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
30. They are both young and will benefit from
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 07:37 PM
Dec 2020

more experience now. I think that is what Biden is planning on. He is putting in experienced people now because they have such a mess to clean up and there is no time for on the job training but if he puts some of the younger ones in to places that give them the experience for future jobs, perhaps in the next admin and years to come they will be ready to take over.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
35. I must be weird or something but I don't care about debates especially primary debates.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 08:03 PM
Dec 2020

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
25. Hummmm. Interesting
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 06:41 PM
Dec 2020

On November 6th, Zack Jones listed AOC's chances as 1 in 25. Kamala Harris was then on the top of the heap.

Which is why sports bettors may not be the best predictive market to hang hope on.

Tell you who will celebrate this prediction:

REPUBLICANS.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
28. No
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 06:49 PM
Dec 2020

Biden and Harris haven't even served a day in office yet and already people are predicting who will run in 2024? Maybe we should let our President Elect and his VP do their jobs before we talk about replacing them. Life in the U.S. has become one long, unending election cycle.

 

Cameliano

(54 posts)
39. Wow. I didn't realize the article is from before the election results were announced
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 08:22 PM
Dec 2020

No wonder.
The threat author should have been transparent and noted that this is a very old, irrelevant article.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. She doesn't have the requisite experience of dealing with both nationwide and international issues.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 08:05 PM
Dec 2020
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