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After what we've witnessed over the past 4 years, I have no fucks to give for people who quote fucking "rules, norms, or even laws" that President Biden MUST follow.
Some of the shit I've seen here on DU, for example;
Biden can't fire DeJoy because, blah, blah, blah
Biden can't appoint "acting" cabinet members because blah, blah, blah
Biden MUST respond to Retrumplicans requests because, blah, blah, blah
Fuck all of that shit. I'm tired of being the ONLY fucking party that respects rules and norms!
After this election shitshow, it should be fucking clear to EVERYONE on the fucking planet. We either beat the everloving snot out of the Retrumplicans Party and fucking destroy it, or we get the snot beat out of us and destroyed.
There's no fucking middle ground anymore.
The Retrumplicans understand this...its time Democrats start to understand that too.
SoFlaBro
(3,790 posts)Any of the idiots that want bipartisanship need to leave that party behind and caucus with Democrats.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)Response to onecaliberal (Reply #2)
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Pepsidog
(6,365 posts)bitch and Rs better understand that. No regular order BS. Rule by Executive Order I say and crush Rs.
coti
(4,625 posts)Cha
(319,075 posts)Thekaspervote
(35,820 posts)Plan...with...or without the pukes
Its our job to support him!
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)support him, all the way.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)dalton99a
(94,115 posts)No unilateral disarmament.
No preemptive surrender.
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BobTheSubgenius
(12,217 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)be ready Rethuglicans Karma is paying you a visit.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)So delicious.
Biophilic
(6,552 posts)We look for the middle ground, we believe that is were things can happen. We believe that our country is based on the middle ground. We so want to believe that the world hasn't irrevocably change over the last 4 years. The middle ground was our ground. We knew how to use it and we used it well...at least until the other side decided we were woosie little sniveling cowards who could be beaten to dust there in the middle ground.
And we let it happen because we really, really, really believed in the middle ground. WRONG.
There is middle ground only if BOTH sides agree there is. If one side says FU to the other side the middle ground disappears. It is trampled under foot and drowned out so that nothing really remains. It is a figment of our imagination. It doesn't really exist anymore. It really never existed but we believed in it so hard that we kept it going way past its death.
It became sort of a zombie middle ground. Only one side believed in it. Now we have to let it go. But how do those of us who believe in democracy and the democratic process let go of the middle ground? It's like letting go of everything we hold dear.
I don't know. I just know that the future depends on us finding a different approach.
Damn, I thought my retirement years were going to be boring.
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fire with fire
Biophilic
(6,552 posts)No more middle ground. The GOP has used the middle ground to get what they want, not what the country and its citizens need. They have used our willingness to meet and compromise to destroy democracy. That is something I will never forgive them for. They used our willingness to be 'good' to wound and destroy us.
I'm not arguing for the middle ground any more. I'm pissed that I was used. I'm pissed that our what we thought were our best efforts to make democracy work were used to wound and destroy it. I'm pissed.
No more middle ground. Time to make the country work for the 90%! Yes, I'm with you.
hamsterjill
(17,577 posts)Democrats have got to learn to fight Republicans the way that Republicans fight Democrats.
Wimpy does not work with Republicans.
End. Of. Story.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)If he can't get appointments through the Senate, he may have to appoint "acting" people. What's he going to do...go without an attorney general?
He can respond to Republican requests with, "That's interesting. No. Thank you for your input." There. He listened and responded.
As to all the, "We must destroy the Republican party." Just how do we propose to do that? Are we going to shoot them? Are we going to pass a law that makes it illegal to be a Republican or donate to the party? Are we going to remove their desks from the chambers of congress and make them stand out in the hall? Are we going to nuke their headquarters?
As long as people vote for them, we're stuck with them. I'm sure if it was possible to destroy a party, they would have done it to us by now.
still_one
(98,883 posts)oversee the USPS, and they can fire DeJoy
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)It will happen.
Of course, if DeJoy is in prison for interfering with an election, he may leave the post earlier.
GB_RN
(3,560 posts)As I understand it, and I could be wrong, there are 3 openings at present. Biden can fill them and then have DeJoy fired by the BoG. Alternatively, DeJoy could be indicted by the DoJ for crimes related to mail tampering - and possibly financial crimes - as the practices aimed at streamlining the USPS were 1) nothing but blatant, partisan attempts to slow the mail and help tRump in the election and 2) excuses to give contracts to his old company (and this enrich himself by increasing his stock value).
Im no legal expert, so Ill leave it up to others as to whether or not prosecution for #2 is possible. But, I have seen people with more legal knowledge than I have recommend a perp walk for #1.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)and not just the naming of new post offices.
Rebl2
(17,740 posts)rid of the other post master, so I see no reason Biden cant get rid of dejoy.
HAB911
(10,440 posts)AGREED
Fiendish Thingy
(23,235 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Real actual justice should fix a lot.
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Miigwech
(3,741 posts).... FBI most likely ready to go (with cuffs), once the new guy gets into town.
dianaredwing
(406 posts)Get rid of Trump rules and make new rules that support the Constitution and eliminate non-Democratic (I mean the theory and not the party) processes that are clearly anti-Constitutional. This will obviously upset the venture capitalists but who the fuck cares. They don't care about me and I don't care about them. Screw them all. Let all those who oppose 'socialist' programs not take part. Don't accept government assistance in the form of Medicaid or Social Security or Unemployment. Drop the fuck out. Pay them back what they put into the system that they deplore and bar them from any future participation. There won't be any more that die on the streets than those the Trumpsters have killed. Those who are making the most noise, I am convinced are those who are sucking the biggest government tits. I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them. I understand (and even appreciate) propaganda, but it must be understood as not truth, just as fiction whether on television or in books is not truth. Just because you don't like something or don't believe in something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. No more lady or the tiger. Let the tigers out and let them feast on these assholes. Thanks for your post.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)llashram
(6,269 posts)no civility or unity until we have cleaned the house of trump stink
ancianita
(43,307 posts)coti
(4,625 posts)FUCK that. This asshole Trump literally made up emergencies and co-opted billions of dollars for idiotic, wasteful projects. Biden should be able to use tens and tens of billions for not only COVID, but climate change too.
ffr
(23,398 posts)TY!
tavernier
(14,443 posts)and make them each give a three minute speech on how wonderful Joe is, the smartest, the best, the fairest of them all. If they refuse, they are out the door. Follow Rumps rules.
soldierant
(9,354 posts)to hell with it. The next in line is precedent - and there's plenty of precedent now for anything he would need to do.
coti
(4,625 posts)The Senate can start "investigations" and "hearings," but Biden should just ignore those, any subpoenas, tell people involved not to show up.
He's the President, apparently he can do whatever he wants.
debsy
(947 posts)EFF THAT, INDEED! They have no rules. You cannot win against perpetual cheaters unless you undo what they've done with their twisted, psychotic, authoritarian-bent cheating first.
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)Jon King
(1,910 posts)No doubt about it, the deep red party has declared war on American democracy. The blue states and blue areas within red states must ban together and only do business with each other. Boycott all deep red states when possible. Biden's AG must investigate and prosecute. If Senate is won, change rules, get DC as a state. Other countries who are our allies must also try to destroy any Trump businesses on their shores.
We are at war.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,076 posts)Jay25
(437 posts)judesedit
(4,592 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,655 posts)Let the congress come together and write laws limiting a president's powers if they do not like what a president does with them. Trump showed us that. Why should Biden restrain himself only to have another GOP Trumpster to come in and do what they want to?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)the opposite is true of Ds. I guess I just don't understand how that can be the case. But I think it's partly because somehow Ds allow it. We need our politicians to hold the line and stop giving in to those evils Rs!!!
electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)Democrats have to be tough!
Not always... athough now it might almost be all of the time!
drmeow
(5,989 posts)and I sincerely hope he holds the same views as you do!