Texas lawmaker to file bill calling for vote on secession from US

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

A Texas state lawmaker has vowed to introduce legislation allowing a referendum for voters to cast their ballots on whether to secede from the United States.

"The federal government is out of control and does not represent the values of Texans. That is why I am committing to file legislation this session that will allow a referendum to give Texans a vote for the State of Texas to reassert its status as an independent nation," Texas state Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R) shared on Facebook on Tuesday.

Biederman said the legislation aligns with the Texas state Constitution, which reads "The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient."

The federal government is out of control and does not represent the values of Texans. That is why I am committing to...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-lawmaker-to-file-bill-calling-for-vote-on-secession-from-us/ar-BB1bP4Eg?ocid=DELLDHP&li=BBnb7Kz

Sure let's give it back to Mexico.

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. Reverse MAGA? nt

[TruckFump]

2. Can we please at least keep Beto? EOM

[EndlessWire]

46. LOL! n/t

[MagickMuffin]

51. Sure while me and every other Texas democrat gets what exactly?

I'm staying fighting this bs.

[TruckFump]

70. Hopefully to turn your state Blue AND keep Beto! EOM

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Don't let the door slap you on the ass on the way out.

Realistically, of course this can't happen - but if it did, I think this idiot would be really sorry.

[BadDog40]

4. Lincoln should have just let them secede the 1st time

Just think how much better things would be in this country.

[Bradshaw3]

30. And how much worse it would have been for 10M enslaved people

Or for those POC and others living in red states now if they do secede.

[AmericanCanuck]

5. Buh Bye

[dalton99a]

6. Kyle Biedermann:

[Srkdqltr]

7. OK. These people are absolutely nuts

With everything that is going on lately I say go.
Take all the rest of your red state with you.

[Thomas Hurt]

8. fn idiot, you secede, you return to a nation state and you still have to deal with the federal gov't

Every federal employee and military personnel is pulled out.
MIC companies pull their business and go elsewhere.
No federal subsidies for your ag producers
A diaspora as sane people flee.
Tax base crashes.

that is just a start.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. But they could elect Trump as their president and everything would be fine.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Which major company recently announced they were moving to Texas?

Apple??

[herding cats]

36. Elon Musk (Tesla). NT

[Blue_true]

38. That is not a major company. nt

[herding cats]

40. I didn't say it was, I was saying who it was that had just announced their move here recently.

He'll fit right in.

[mercuryblues]

32. NASA-gone

Say good-bye to colleges. No more disaster relief. Pro football? Bye-bye.

Military bases gone. They will get invaded by Mexico, lose and become Mexicans.

[EndlessWire]

47. LOL

And we'll build a wall around them!

[KatyMan]

33. Not to mention all Medicare and

Social Security payments may stop. Fannie Mae mortgages would be instantly due, as would SBA loans. Corporate HQs would leave in droves along with a whole bunch of citizens. Hell, Mexico might invade!

[Thekaspervote]

9. Works for the Dems..would be 29 less EC votes for the pukes

[Retrograde]

63. And 2 fewer GOP senators!

[dweller]

10. fatnixon's fatass

is going to look so f’n funny on a horse ...


✌🏻

[still_one]

11. That is a violation of the Constitution

[TheBlackAdder]

24. While a state or territory can join the union, there isn't an exit option.

[elleng]

12. BYE!

[TomSlick]

13. So, Rep. Biedermann, do you really want to close the fifteen military installations in Texas?

Yeah, I thought not.

[DFW]

57. Well, as long as Dallas, Houston, Austin and El Paso can leave Texas

But I‘m sure most of us would prefer the easier and more obvious solution: just abolish Rep. Biederman instead.

[LeftInTX]

61. Biedermann is a state rep who lives in the Hill Country

He doesn't care about military bases...
He only cares about pleasing his base

[Enterstageleft]

14. Oh goody...

no more Texas NFL teams, NBA teams, or college sports teams.

No more funding for the border wall (LOL, easily scaled in less than 30 seconds) or border security.

On second thought, let us keep Houston, you can have the rest.

[Hekate]

15. This again?

Oy

[catrose]

16. As long as the remaining US will take blue Texas refugees

[Blue_true]

37. That will happen.

I am starting to believe that we are better off long term splitting the country into a progressive half and a conservative half, with common defense until each half can defend itself on it’s own. I am pretty much done with conservatives, sick of their lies, their flags of treason, all of it.

[texasfiddler]

17. I am ready to leave this shithole state.

[muntrv]

18. If Mexico wants to invade Texas, the republic is on own.

it's own. No protection from USA.

[safeinOhio]

26. Sell it back to Mexico. That might work.

[blueinredohio]

20. Didn't Rick Perry want to do this until Texas had a lot of

hurricane damage then he was first to want government help?

[Rstrstx]

43. Yes he did, and polls showed it was a disaster

Back in 2009 a Rasmussen poll showed 18% of Texans would vote to secede in the US if given the chance, and that number would almost certainly be lower now. Me, I vote to let the Republicans keep on blabbering, they’re digging their graves.

[MustLoveBeagles]

22. I don't want to hear that Dems are the sore losers ever again

I've never seen a bigger group of crybabies in my life than the GOP Clown Crew.

[doc03]

23. Go ahead all the red states secede, they will be a third world country nt

[MyNameGoesHere]

25. Repatriate Americans

Demolish military bases. Enforce a total economic, trade, and visitor blockade. I can live with it. Texas Real Americans we have a lot of wonderful places to live in the USA. Let the confederate state of Texass go. Maybe Mexico will smell their weakness and take back what was taken from them. Hell we should even support a Mexican annexation.

[RDANGELO]

29. No Social Security, Medicare,food nutrition programs, you are on your own.

[bullimiami]

27. Oh good fuckng riddance. Take trump.

[Karadeniz]

28. They have nothing... no integrity, no commitment to democratic standards, no helpful policies. So,

The only thing they can do is foment trouble and tell lies to appear relevant.

[Ferrets are Cool]

31. It will never, ever happen in a million years, but if they could and DID secede

what would happen to all the SS recipients? That would just be a tiny tip of the iceberg, but I am curious.

[Blasphemer]

34. That would be one of about a million details that would need to be sorted out if...

there was ever a succession. Frankly, I think the country will break up eventually but probably not for 100 years or so. I think there would be a situation like the UK is dealing with with Brexit, but it would be even more complicated with multiple trade, fiscal, social welfare-related, and other agreements in place during the transition.

[Mr.Bill]

41. I'm pretty sure you can still collect

your Social Security in a foreign country. I think you would have to remain an American citizen, though, but that could be done.

[Blue_true]

35. If they secede, I think the Mexican Army, as corrupt as it is, can take them

this time around. Especially if we sit back and watch, while eating popcorn and drinking our drink of choice.

The bonus is that Magats from all over the country will rush there, with their assault weapons and tactical gear to help Texas. So we literally and figuratively get two birds killed with one stone.

[herding cats]

42. The Texas GOP would be deep in with the cartels within minutes.

The Texas GOP secretly envies how they run Mexico. They'd adore a chance to become partners.

[roamer65]

52. Open up the border and let Mexicans immigrate to TX.

[Wounded Bear]

39. Don't they do this every few years anyway?

[Liberal In Texas]

44. He's a (R), what a surprise.

Just another goofy bill out of many that the Rs will be introduce in the Lege that go nowhere.

[bluecollar2]

45. Hasta la vista pendejo....n/t

[Claire Oh Nette]

48. Patriot or Secessionist?

They can't have it both ways.

If they are patriots, they won't work to destroy the Union. Never mind the whole Constitution prohibits that very thing thing. We had a war, which they are still fighting.

If they secede, or vote to secede, they are not patriots.

Which is it?

P.S. The Federal Government that is out of control is currently "led" by the gop and has been. WHat they object to is their own world. Asshats.

[newdayneeded]

49. clockwork

Every time a Democrat is in the Whitehouse they start this shit. More whining and drooling from the GOP, er, I mean MAGA party. That's all it is now, just the trump party. GOP is all but dead.

[TeamPooka]

50. You ain't going anywhere Texas. You a Blue State now. Soon anyway... suck it up.

[roamer65]

54. Province of Michigan.

🇨🇦

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/is-it-time-for-canada-to-annex-blue-america/

[elevator]

55. Sweet Jesus it's Davey Kraken at the Alamo.

Personally I prefer Fess Parker.

[Boogiemack]

56. Why don't they just give it back to Mexico and build a wall around it? nt

[Progressive Jones]

58. People way more powerful than this clown will crush this. nt

[JHB]

59. Should this be successful, let it be known that the US will recoup every dollar invested in Texas..

...and let them find out the hard way who can make that stick.

[Progressive Jones]

60. Ft. Hood will be closed, completely destroying the economies of several towns. nt

[sarisataka]

62. It is amazing the difference a handful of weeks makes

It wasn't that long ago the idea of secession was put forth many times and lauded by quite a few.

[struggle4progress]

64. If he wants to leave, he can leave

[Captain Zero]

65. There goes those electoral votes for Republicans.

nt

[cherish44]

66. This happens after every fcking election

States petitioning to secede because the election didn't go their way. (Yawn, you're IDIOTS....next)

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

67. Hell secedes from the Union. What's not to like? nt

[SmartVoter22]

68. Give them territorial status first on the way out

Let Texas exit (Texit) but do it with some proper steps. Let the state voters agree, by referendum, to denounce statehood and revert to territorial status. This lower status would allow them to revamp state, county and municipal governmental 'styles' to find ones that will work.
During territorial status the US can remove all it's institutions, properties and services. Some would have to include; all military bases, the entire space program of NASA, the US funded universities and local schools, the state's governmental departments that rely on federal funding and oversight, etc.
This 'territorial phase' would give Texas the time to re-create those federally funded and required services that would likely become part of a trade pact with the US, any NATO ( if they could get into that group) support and of course, setup an entire Texas State Department where the citizens would be issued new citizenship documents, passports, marriage licenses, land deeds, etc.

Succession should be tested, not in the very sloppy manner that was done during the Civil War, but with a focused plan that replaces what they now enjoy, with what they want to have in the future.

Of course once territorial status is given, the borders should be closed and the US should send military to assure Americans that no Texan comes into our nation without the full recognition of the US, by Congress- which would also have 2 less Senators and 36 fewer House members. Congress could easily reassign committee seats to other states as needed.

And the US properties, meaning buildings, etc could be destroyed by the military, to assure the Texans that the US did not plant listening devices into any of them. Texas has lots of open dirt to make new bricks to replace those properties, but Americans would want to make sure the Texans are left with nothing to tie back to the US, as having any conspiratorial connection that could be imagined.

After, say a decade of territorial status, if things get accomplished for both sides, then let Texas go on it's own.
They can spend the next 50 years trying, and likely failing, to reach a most favored status, to have good relations with the USA.

America and it's allies, could now have a new group to discriminate against. Texans!

[My Pet Orangutan]

69. This time, if the CSA want to leave, I'd say yes.

[Renew Deal]

71. Wait till he finds out that half of Texas wants to secede from Texas.