Nina Turner IS running for Congress. Just got this email from [e-mail]

[George II]

This discussion thread was locked by Elad (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Although she is (grudgingly) running as a "Democrat", she's already bashing the Democratic Party and Joe Biden.

Interesting that it came from "organize", yet it was sent at 8:21 PM inviting people to a "national call" at 8:30 PM - just nine minutes later. Nice organizing!

The text (bold is mine):

George,

It's official! Sen. Nina Turner is running for Congress. She's running for the seat vacated by Rep. Marcia Fudge, who Joe Biden has chosen as secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The People's Party isn't on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat, but we can't think of anyone better to win that seat and bring a friend of the People's Party to Congress.

This week brings grim news from the nation's ocean scientists who reported that the Arctic is heating up at a rate double that of the global average and sea ice is melting rapidly.

We still have time to turn this around. Come onto our national call tonight at 8:30 pm Eastern time where climate scientist and MPP climate advisor Dr. Peter Kalmus will talk about the world's climate emergency and why the People's Party must succeed to help avert climate catastrophe in the next few years.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden continues to fill his administration with corporate lobbyists and centrists from the Obama administration. On tap is General Lloyd Austin for Defense Secretary, who helped spearhead the 2003 invasion of Iraq and sits on the board of Raytheon, a major supplier of bombs, including to the U.S-Saudi air war in Yemen which has killed at least 100,000 civilians.

He will join Neera Tanden, Bernie Sanders' nemesis, who looks to be a shoo-in for director of the Office of Management and Budget despite her light financial resume. Tanden is a venomous opponent of popular proposals like Medicare for all and a Green New Deal and supports cuts in Social Security nd Medicare. As president of the corporatist "Center for American Progress," she famously punched an employee who questioned Hillary Clinton's support for the Iraq War and accepted millions of dollars in donations from "friendly" foreign regimes such as the United Arab Emirates.

Last week we officially registered the People's Party in Maine, our first state party! Maine has a special rule that requires early registration. Please donate as we prepare to register the People’s Party in all 50 states and offer a progressive populist alternative to the corporate-funded Democratic and Republican parties in 2022 and 2024.

For the record, Tanden NEVER "punched an employee"! Oh, this is going to be a great Democratic primary in 2022!

[DURHAM D]

1. Please God find another candidate in the district.

jftr - the Biden crew had to know this shit from her would happen.

[Hortensis]

4. At least two real Democrats have already declared,

both already in local office, and one of them a mentored by Marcia fudge. Plus, there are expected to be others running in this long-time Democratic stronghold.

[Blue_true]

7. I just hope that not too many people jump in.

That will help Turner. If people are not getting traction, they should drop out immediately and endorse the Democrat that can hand Turner her ass.

[Hortensis]

15. Turner's going to be the big money candidate.

She and the people behind her bring a ver large campaign war chest of money raised from around the country to this little district. Expect a massive character assassination campaign against whoever turns out to be her big opponent.

[Blue_true]

20. Turner's attitude will invalidate any money advantage that she will have. nt

[Hortensis]

25. Yes, she also brings her reputation. :)

[LiberalFighter]

34. I would use the tone of her speaking against her in ads.

[Gothmog]

67. I would prefer real members of the party

The fact that Turner voted for Jill Stein disqualifies her as the nominee of the party

[NurseJackie]

71. The fact that she compared Joe Biden to "EATING A BOWL OF SHIT" also disqualifies her.

She doesn't have a very good history of winning competitive elections. She's also an avowed supporter of Jill Stein. She voted for Jill Stein over Hillary.

Here: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

[Boogiemack]

62. Damn. I thought she moved to Russia and got a job with RT? nt

[hlthe2b]

2. She is so obnoxious that she will get attention, but I understand there are 2 Dems who already

have pledged to run and both are apparently well regarded in that district.

I hope this is true and Nina can find some other outlet for her narcissism.

And, no, given Nina's expressed intent NOT to be a Democrat in the recent past, I am not negatively attacking a Democrat in what I posted.

[Blue_true]

8. I hope that not too many legitimate Dems jump in and dilute the

democratic vote.

[George II]

10. Note the first bold part of the email:

The People's Party isn't on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat

i.e., she doesn't WANT to run as a Democrat. That's all we need to know, and you're right, you're NOT negatively attacking a Democrat.

[R B Garr]

60. 10 years ago wasn't recent and she never badmouthed

Democrats like Turner et al. You keep trying to misrepresent what was going on and thinking you’re on to something ... so that is what is “misguided.”

[PTWB]

75. The "fringe" did quite well. It was the moderates who got skunked.

I couldn’t care less about Nina Turner and I very much doubt she will win the congressional seat. I’m just amused at the blatant hypocrisy of those who drool over a radical right wing Republican in Democratic clothing but cry about folks like Bernie or Turner (some of them even cry about our most promising Democrats like AOC!).

[PTWB]

80. What name did I give you that you find objectionable?

[R B Garr]

82. LOL. The name-calling is so predictable by now

We’ve seen the purity brigade for awhile.

[PTWB]

86. So predictable that you couldn't figure out which name you objected to?

[PTWB]

90. You made the claim.

You indicated I’d called you some name that you objected to but several posts later you haven’t managed to figure out what that name was. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[PTWB]

99. What name, specifically, did I call you that you object to?

[R B Garr]

103. LOL, more disingenuous distraction. Your own posts

show exactly what name calling you are engaging in.

Same as the petty hyperbole about a woman of color changing parties as compared to when a white man does it.

[George II]

77. What fringe did "quite well"? Are you referring to JD/OR endorsees in primaries/elections, or.....

.....are you referring to their finances.

The "fringe" is still running at less than 10% success rate since those groups were founded (not "quite well" ), but they're all doing "quite well" financially. Makes one wonder why they were in it in the first place.

[Hortensis]

78. You've been distracted: We reject hostiles running Trojan Horse campaigns.

Turner just retweeted THIS about Democrats from her buddy David Sirota. Biden's election "normalizes corruption and corporatism" and begins the "darkest timeline as the world burns." I looked at tweet after tweet from her and found nothing about Democrats that wasn't similarly hostile and intensely dishonest.

Link to tweet

You may not care now, but subversion of the Democratic Party threatens to throw the gate open to a RW authoritarian and religious takeover. Exactly as it did in 2016, but we haven't fallen to the hostiles double teaming us from right and left yet.

What is now a strongly authoritarian Republican leadership serves the kleptocracy it helped create, their fascistic voters want a dictator to impose religious nationalism and smash all opposition, and our governments and courts are already dangerously packed with corrupt Christian nationalists. Turner's words and actions strongly suggest she would prefer that to continuation of democracy under Democratic leadership.

[PTWB]

81. I haven't been distracted.

I’m making fun of hypocrites who feign outrage over a left wing radical pretending to be a Democrat while fawning over a right wing radical pretending to be a Democrat.

[Hortensis]

83. No, it's Turner's like eating "half a bowl of shit" to vote for Biden.

Repeated attempts at deflection merely keep the thread up, and the stink of Turner's hostility in the air.

[PTWB]

88. Pointing out the hypocrisy isn't distracting.

And pointing out the hypocrisy doesn’t somehow make Turner a better candidate. She’s almost certainly going to lose.

I’m just amused that some of the people feigning outrage over Turner’s candidacy are the same people who were salivating when a radical right winger tried to primary AOC.

[R B Garr]

84. You're definitely trying to distract. Even your distorted

analogies show how fake the attacks on Democrats are. Calling people RWers because they didn’t vote for an Independent running as a Democrat is more tiresome sour grapes.

What you are describing is your own manufactured distractions. Trump also does this...he carries on false narratives about others because he thinks the repetition of falsehoods will eventually be acceptable or credible. HI

[PTWB]

87. You're welcome to your mischaracterizations.

I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of those who salivate over a right winger pretending to be a Democrat while those same people feign out rage over a left winger pretending to be a Democrat.

[R B Garr]

93. Ah, now we're into the hyper drama words of your hyperbole:

Salivating and drooling. Thanks for showing again how the drama is hyperbolic performance.

Not to mention your opposite world. The hypocrisy belongs to those with proven double standards and lies about others. It’s okay for Bernie to switch parties but not okay for a woman of color. Trump also continues false dialogues. He fabricates lies about others and just repeats them as if that makes them credible.

[PTWB]

100. No need to be disingenuous.

I found it reprehensible that a radical right wing Republican was being welcomed with open arms by self-proclaimed Democrats because they so loathed the Democrat who was being challenged.

As both AOC and Michelle Caruso-Cabrera are women of color, I think your petty attempts to mischaracterize my opposition as racism says more about you than anyone else. 😘

[PTWB]

110. I've lost track.

Are you still claiming I called you some sort of objectionable name or have you given that up since you couldn’t actually find one?

[PTWB]

113. You made the claim.

I’m still waiting for you to substantiate it. We both know why you haven’t.

[PTWB]

115. Hmm.

In post 76 you wrote “I don’t care what silly names you give me—I’ve been seeing these tiresome attacks for 5 years and they are as useless now as they were then.”


You’ve still been unable to tell me which name I called you. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[PTWB]

117. Confused?

I certainly haven’t called you “lunatic fringe.” The only post in this thread that contains the word “lunatic” is the one you just wrote (until now).

What on earth are you talking about? Quote my post where you claim I called you a name or admit you made that up and apologize.

[PTWB]

125. Is it?

You tell me. You’re the only one saying it (aside from where I quoted you in the last post).

Why are you unable to quote or even identify a specific name that you allege I called you?

[PTWB]

127. Why do you keep saying that?

You keep saying, “look at the post with the word fringe!” instead of actually saying what you’re accusing me of saying.

It isn’t a mystery. We aren’t playing twenty questions.

You accused me of calling you some sort of name. You refuse to say what name I called you.

You know I didn’t, I know I didn’t, and you still haven’t apologized for your malicious accusations. Shameful.

[PTWB]

129. Again...

“Look for the post with fringe” instead of actually saying what you think I called you.

With as many times as you’ve written “look for the post with fringe” you could have written a dissertation on this perceived insult.

As we have talked about before, the post where I mentioned “fringe” was a reply to someone else using the word “fringe”, not a reply to you, and contained no name calling of you.

How deep are you going to dig this hole until you admit you made the whole thing up?

[PTWB]

131. LOL

How do you think being unable to support your malicious accusation makes you look?

You’ve said “look for the post” a dozen times, yet you’re unable to name the alleged ‘name calling’ even once.

[PTWB]

135. I'm supposed to answer your question now?

You accused me of calling you a name and despite asking you (at least a dozen times) what name I allegedly called you, you’ve refused to answer.

Instead you kept talking about a post with a fringe over and over and over again.

What name are you accusing me of calling you? How hard can it be to answer that?

[PTWB]

137. Do you typically do that in life?

You make a wild, completely in imaginary accusation, refuse to substantiate it, then drop hints about how one could substantiate it instead of just saying what offended you?

How’s that work out for you?

[PTWB]

139. I'll happily answer your question.

Just as soon as you say specifically what name you’re accusing me of calling you.

That doesn’t mean “go look for a fringe!” for the 47th time.

Can you handle that? Can you bring yourself to substantiate your allegation or does the perceived slight remain confined to the realm of your imagination?

[PTWB]

141. LOL

Are you used to people just rolling over when you fabricate malicious allegations? You accused me of calling you some offensive name but you refuse to say what it was.

If you actually wanted me to answer your question you’d apologize for making this whole thing up and we could move on. But you can’t. Or won’t.

I’m not sure how I can help you. The slight you perceive exists only in your imagination.

[PTWB]

143. No one would call her that. She's awesome!

I’m glad you finally decided to be honest with yourself and acknowledge that I hadn’t called you any sort of name. It has been an interesting experience watching you come to grips with that.

In the future, I would suggest you not falsely accuse kind people of things they did not do. It isn’t a good look.

[PTWB]

146. Why would I answer your question?

You’ve still not apologized for your false and malicious claim that I had called you some offense name. As soon as you do, I’ll enthusiastically answer your question.

[PTWB]

148. Is your copy and paste key stuck?

I told you I’d enthusiastically answer your question just as soon as you apologize for making that malicious and false allegation based entirely on something you imagined.

I’m still waiting and, therefor, so are you.

[PTWB]

150. I guess that answers that.

Something is definitely broken. Your copy paste key? Something else?

Regardless, as promised, you’ll have your answer just as soon as you apologize for the false and malicious accusation. You’re in total control over when (if ever) you get an answer to your question.

[R B Garr]

151. Actually it's your non answer that is the telling

conclusion that you cannot defend your toxic use of exaggeration and hyperbole. Every situation here you have exaggerated into a distracting story, as there is no defense to the name calling. It’s quite amusing to see the reduction. HI

[PTWB]

152. LOL

I offered to answer your question many times. I even graciously gave you the key to accessing that answer.

All you have to do is apologize for the baseless accusation you made up based entirely on an imaginary slight. Own up to your mistake and you’ll have what you seek!

The ball is in your court, darling.

[PTWB]

159. What can I say?

I laugh because I’ve been thoroughly entertained. Watching someone who has made up completely false allegations try to wriggle out from under them for hours and hours and hours is quite entertaining. It’s like watching a train wreck in ultra slow motion!

[PTWB]

161. It all makes sense now.

You equate answering a question with “getting one over.”It’s no wonder you maliciously and falsely accused me of calling you some still undisclosed offensive name.

You are now saying you didn’t want me to answer your question, and yet you must have asked it a dozen times. Apparently “getting one over” is something you were trying to do.

[PTWB]

166. This is fascinating!

I’m learning more and more about your imagination and your fantasies every single time you post.

Now we’ve gone from you imagining “name calling” to imagining “distractions.” What will you imagine next?

[R B Garr]

167. You are all out of distractions, sorry.

I’ve quoted your own hyperbolic words and there were 2 campaigns over 5 years that were lost because the majority didn’t want a Revolution. I’m solidly with the majority and have seen all the petty insults. LOL

Edit: this thread is about an Our Revolution member’s current campaign plans.

[PTWB]

168. Did you?

I recall trying to get you to quote exactly what name you were claiming I called you. You refused because you imagined it.

Based upon your copy & paste posts in this thread, if I had actually called you a name, we both know you’d have been pasting it over and over and over. Yet you couldn’t do it a single time.

Is there a name for people who fantasize that they’ve been insulted or victimized when they haven’t been?

[R B Garr]

171. Alas for you, the losses are real. You should accept reality

that the majority of Democrats such as myself didn’t want a Revolution or socialism or any of the Our Revolution messaging. Your hyperbole and exaggerations can’t change that.

Edit: this thread is about an Our Revolution member running for Congress.

[R B Garr]

177. You attacked me personally in another thread. So all

your distractions don’t matter. You’ve been here since 2019...? Do you remember a poster who used to edit their posts as people were posting responses?

Regardless, Bernie is nowhere the White House, Biden got the most votes of any candidate. Facts are facts, not your distractions.

[R B Garr]

180. Who wrote this post? LOL at your desperation

"Ahh I see

You’re one of “those” who thinks you’re making some point by supporting an ultra right wing conservative Republican social security abolisher because you’re upset left-leaning independents occasionally run as Democrats.

For anyone not up to speed, this is where we are:

$$$$$ and RB Garr are vehemently opposed to left leaning independents who share our values running as a Democrats.

$$$$$ and RB Garr are strongly supportive of ultra right wing conservatives who shares none of our values rubs as a Democrat. (&&&&& won’t even deny that he would support Donald Trump if he ran as a Democrat).

They think they’re being clever by trying to draw a parallels between these two scenarios but unfortunately all they’re doing is exposing themselves and what they truly believe.

I bet we all know why they’re REALLY opposed to AOC. Women of color in positions of power seem to have this effect on a certain subset of the population."

Who wrote that?? It's laughable now that Our Revolution got smacked down in the election --- where opinions actually matter.

edit: Election results show there are MILLIONS more, TENS, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS MORE who vote/think like me. Not Our Revolution.

edit 2: EXAGGERATION HYPERBOLE LOL

[R B Garr]

182. This was about your exaggeration and hyperbole and now just downright dishonesty.

None of your exaggerations can take away from the profound losses of Our Revolution. I won, so you can stand by anything you want. It doesn't matter.

[R B Garr]

186. All of my posts in this thread exposed you.

You were the one exposed.

I vote solidly with the 80,000,000 who voted for Biden, so all your BS about me was worthless harassment. I won.

[R B Garr]

183. I see the names you called me right in that post I provided.

Now you're pretending otherwise. This is not a good look for you.

You joined in 2019...? Do you remember the poster who edited their posts as responses were coming in?

[George II]

198. republicans flipped 13, Democrats 3. You forget that this was after we GAINED 40 seats in 2018....

DEMOCRATS gained 40 seats in 2018, gave up 10 in 2020 - that's a net gain of 30.

Is the group of people you call "progressives" a separate party now, or are they DEMOCRATS like me and others in the DEMOCRATIC party? To say progressives did quite well and moderates did not is divisive. In case you didn't notice, WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!!!

[George II]

188. Not just a "member" but the former PRESIDENT of Our Revolution. Our Revolution whose endorsees....

....are running at a less than 10% win rate.

[R B Garr]

190. Yes, great point.

[LanternWaste]

97. I dig how consistently you keep moving your own goalposts on this one.

I also do not think rationalizing petulance is a rational response.

Or, you could provide us with objective evidence of this hypocrisy you consistently allege, as I don't remember anyone on this thread reacting with hypocrisy ten years ago. I'm certain you'll support your allegations, yes?

[PTWB]

101. Are you having trouble keeping up with the thread?

I’m happy to help.

Several self-proclaimed Democrats threw their support behind a radical right wing Republican running as a Democrat in a primary against AOC. These same people are now feigning outrage that Nina Turner is running as a Democrat.

I hope that clears things up for you.

[Cha]

104. Oh, did the rw spew "Voting for Biden is

like eating a bowl of shit".. like Nina Turner did?

Do former repubs like TLP try to Tear Down Dems like fucking 3rd party Pusher nina turner does?

[AmericanCanuck]

106. Revisionist history.

The "fringe" only won in deep deep blue districts where anything with a D gets elected.

It is because of the fringe's seduction of socialism and extreme slogans like "defund the police" is why many purple district Democrats lost. It is time for the fringe to own up to its shortcomings.

[PTWB]

109. Social Democrats are still Democrats.

[AmericanCanuck]

111. They call themselves Democratic Socialists

Social Democrats are not socialists.

[MrsCoffee]

121. Social Democrats are socialists.

http://socialistcurrents.org/?page_id=18

WE STILL HAVE OUR DREAM OF THE NEAR FUTURE AND OUR VISION OF THE SOCIALIST SOCIETY OF THE FAR FUTURE, BEYOND OUR LIFETIME AND OUR CHILDREN’S LIFETIME. While concentrating on developing social democratic programs for the here and now, we have not given up our vision of the new socialist society that incremental change or visionary gradualism could eventually bring. We are still committed to the vibrant democratic socialist movement of the near future and our socialist vision of the far future beyond our lifetime and our children’s lifetime.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats,_USA

[AmericanCanuck]

122. I was talking about European Social Democrats

They are all market-economy proponents and favor capitalism.

[Demsrule86]

155. She is not a Democrat as she has started a new party. And left the party.

I don't know if Justice Democrats or Social Democrats consider themselves Democrats. You would have to ask them.

[R B Garr]

193. And here's your post where you call me

a right winger yet you spent 3 days denying it.

I posted again so it’s in My Post tab.

[George II]

73. But Michelle Caruso-Cabrera didn't say she was running as a Democrat because there was no other....

....party line on which to run at the time.

The announcement of her candidacy in the primary this year didn't say something like "since I can't run for the party I WANT, I have to run as a Democrat".

Big difference.

[AmericanCanuck]

107. She also didn't say I am only running as a Democrat because

I get to use the party infrastructure for free.

[Demsrule86]

153. Nina Turned did not support Hillary. She encouraged people to vote for Jill Stein thus helping

Trump win election. She has talked shit about Democrats and left the party.She is not a Democrat. Our party is being used by her because she can't run under her own new "party" and win.

She went down to Nebraska and campaigned for a Right to life candidate.Heath Mello, who sponsored a bill in the Nebraska legislature that made it so insurance couldn't pay for abortion coverage. She lectured Democrats on what we would have to accept in terms of choice and said Our revolution would endorse Republicans and/ or Green slimes. But Democrats had to 'prove' themselves. Our revolution supported Perriello in the Virginian gubernatorial primary. He was one of the House members who put anti-choice legislation in the ACA. Her actions have disqualified her in my book and I live in Cleveland and will campaign for anyone (Democrat of course) but her.

[Demsrule86]

157. That is not true...you should prove that or delete this post. I know of no Duer who supported

Caruso. This is probably one of the most malicious posts I have seen on DU.

[womanofthehills]

192. Just to be fair, a few did because I argued with them on DU

Caruso wrote a book about how there should be less government and why we should cut SS and Medicare. I had to post numerous times about the evils of Caruso because some on here did not like AOC and claimed they were supporting Caruso.

[R B Garr]

199. This is true. It is very malicious how this was

misrepresented.

There were many lies and exaggerations brought forth about Caruso just like the lies about Hillary so it was correcting those that led to the attacks on DUers.

Her book was 10 years ago, not recent as was pushed here. There is one man with a recent book very unflattering to my party but that didn’t matter to the same folks.

We were called “supporters” which is a joke because we weren’t in her district. Caruso never smeared my party, which was a noticeable difference. It was a Democratic primary.

[R B Garr]

191. Oh hello, THIS post, your post 59 is the one that attacks

people here and which you’ve spent 3 days denying. I posted another similar post which is just a dishonest misrepresentation of what was going on.

[StarfishSaver]

21. The other two who are running are very well-known and respected in Cleveland

Nina Turner is known.

[sheshe2]

26. Bwahahaha.

Got it!

[brer cat]

31. ...

[Cha]

38. Thank Goodness! Dems Running who

do NOT say..

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213815901

[betsuni]

39. ...

[AmericanCanuck]

108. lol

[Cha]

30. Fingers Crossed! TY!

[Budi]

3. Well, Then there's THIS: "Nina's got a corruption problem"

Let the games begin!!


From Reclaim the Fight (formerly The People's View)
https://www.reclaimthefight.com/2020/12/nina-turner-has-corruption-problem.html?fbclid=IwAR1-4eHNNDJCoA-oUaBsTf6sHt4RkF-30CN7AB-THpuAtqUgPjtgL2E7IHw&m=1#.X9JNKVnKeSs.facebook

[betsuni]

13. Oh my!

[George II]

29. Chakrabarti did a good job of, as they say, "connecting the dots"!

[Budi]

33. He did. And honestly he must have had one unbelievable white-board just to keep track of it all.

Appears she's been REALLY busy. 😬

[sheshe2]

32. Yikes!

Read and others should as well.

[Budi]

36. Really! Man, she stirred up some bad blood in the 2016/2020 campaign didn't she.

Yikes!

[sheshe2]

42. And then some.

I have no clue who she is pretending to be here. It is frightening. The hand maiden's dress? What is that?

[Budi]

48. Probably right after she called Biden 'one half of the same bowl of shit as Trump'

Boy THAT's going to endear her to Rep Fudge & her District's Dem voters, huh!

Whoo hoo..Go Nina!!!

[R B Garr]

61. Ugh, her comments are so nasty.

It’s been a nice few months without all of this unnecessary divisiveness from 5 years ago already. How many more losses until they get the message.

[Hortensis]

79. Her intense dishonesty and hostility strike me as like a litmus test for

judgement and character. Extremely repellent to those who require honesty and decency, and rationality!, in their representatives. It's possible that she mostly believes the things she says, and what would that suggest about her cognitive functioning?

[Demsrule86]

154. Yes she did and I liked her and voted for her in Ohio. She betrayed us by not supporting the

Democratic nominee in 16 and encouraging Democrats to vote for Stein. It is particularly disgusting as both Bill and Hillary had helped her in previous campaigns.

[Budi]

162. Yup. She can never be trusted, & that fault comes with serious ramifications

You're on your own from here Nina.

[Gothmog]

68. Another reason to support real democrats who did not vote for Jill Stein

[betsuni]

69. +1

[Chili]

5. Shontel Brown may be Marcia Fudge's choice

It was said in an article that Marcia Fudge has - or will - endorse her.

Here she is:

http://council.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/District-9.aspx

[George II]

14. You scared me with your wording. On first reading I thought you were saying Fudge was endorsing....

....Turner. Read that link and WHEW! She's endorsing Shontel Brown.

[Chili]

23. oh... sorry!

I'll edit that title!

[George II]

44. +1,000,000

[Budi]

27. Nina turner is the total opposite of what Marcia Fudge stands for.

She's not going anywhere near the person who hates Marcia's boss. Ms Fudge has worked long & steady & has well earned the trust of Joe Biden.
Her impecible & professional ethics & dedication aren't even on the same planet as Biden hater, Nina Turner.

I'll look up more on Shontel Brown.
If Marcia Fudge endorses her then she is already there.

Fudge is quite loved & supported in her District.

[Chili]

37. she is my congresswoman

She has served us well, though I did contact her once regarding an animal safety issue that she didn't really address in her reply. Nevertheless... she had deep deep deep shoes to fill, and she did well.

[Demsrule86]

156. She is my Congresswoman also. And I called concerned about a stimulus and she called me back!

[Chili]

165. well, to most, yes, people are the priority, and should be

I get that, and I agree. But it was about Smucker's owning a piss-poor junk dog food company that makes dogs and cats ill and shortens their lives. Since Smuckers is an Ohio company (but not in her district - it's in a bright red district ), I emailed her asking if she could help with a law that would force the FDA to make it illegal for dog food makers to include rendered meat in their food - currently, the law only requires that every ingredient must be listed on the food bag, but not the quality of that ingredient. Any bag that lists "meat" or "meat meal" or "meat by-products" means it is rendered meat: road kill, vet remains - yes, sick dogs and cats, that's how the tags get found in wet dog food - and rotten meat from grocery stores. Render factories take this meat, cook it, sell it cheaply to dog food factories... and that's what our pets eat when we buy dog food that has "meat" as an ingredient. I was hoping she could take up the cause, or forward it to a colleague who would. She gently blew me off. I would have taken just a referral to some group who could - or is - working on it, but nada. So... But I don't rate her completely on that; that was obviously my personal regret, not related to what she does for people.

[Cha]

40. Oh Good to know.. TY Chili!

[Chili]

47. you are most welcome!

[MustLoveBeagles]

6. Oh no

I hope she's not the nominee.

[Demsrule86]

9. Same old Nina...can't stand her.

[sheshe2]

12. Oh boy, oh boy.

What a positive message for her to run on for Democrats! Not.



This is Nina.

Link to tweet

Oy.

[Chili]

28. man.

I really can't stand that woman. She is toxic and unstable.

[sheshe2]

35. Toxic is a very good word.

[Hortensis]

132. Turner and others in that camp state that they voted third party.

The Nina Turners had to have known that voting for Stein would be throwing their votes away in an empty gesture. Many of Sanders' similarly zealous supporters (not the nice, sensible ones), who were every bit as dishonestly enraged at Hillary as trumpists are at Biden because their candidate lost, actually voted directly for Trump.

[Lancero]

16. Nina Turner thanks you for the free advertisement.

You could have made a topic about any of the other people who have officially declared their intent to run for Ohio 11, but you made one about Nina Turner who has yet to officially file to run.

She must live rent free in your head or something for all the commentary you make about her.

[George II]

19. As far as I can recall, this is the first OP I've ever posted about her. Refresh my memory.

[StarfishSaver]

24. I doubt that anyone reading DU who votes in Cleveland doesn't already know who Nina Turner is

and didn't already know she is running.

[Cha]

45. No, you're wrong.. Nina Turner needs to

be Exposed for the 3rd Party Pusher she is.

She's toxic saying "voting for Joe Biden is like "eating shit".

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213815901

[GulfCoast66]

57. A constant critic of the Democratic Party who did not vote for our candidate in 16

And who is apparently planning on running under our banner because she has no other choice. And you attack someone for bring it up?

DU is a site for people who support Democratic Party candidates. She didn’t. So she is fair game for as much criticism as DU members want to give her.

Why do you seemingly defend someone who did not support our last candidate getting criticized?

I’m assuming you supported all of our candidates.

[arthritisR_US]

85. Well said, TY!👍🏼👏🏼

[JonLP24]

119. AFAIK Turner is planning on becoming a Democratic Party candidate

See how the rules suddenly don't apply to her now? The rules here seem only to apply to the general election Presidential candidate. I remember the Independent exception was allowed for Charlie Crist support in his race against the Democratic nominee and Marco Rubio so I'm aware of the DU history of the rules.

I voted for both Clinton & Biden but I certainly bite my tongue when it comes to Biden. Not so much when it comes to Clinton as I find her to be more impressive than Biden.

I certainly support Democrats and Independents that align with Democrats especially if they push progressive policies but I can't say the same for the rest of the board even when they win their primaries and even when they are elected representatives.

[GulfCoast66]

120. Then you and I are more in common with each other

Than either do with Turner

You voted for a Democratic candidate perhaps more moderate than you prefer. I am more of a moderate democrat, at least by DU standards, but would vote for a very progressive democrat. Turner did not. That’s my point.

She would not be welcomed on DU as she violated our cardinal rule.

[sheshe2]

134. Welp.

JonLP24

119. AFAIK Turner is planning on becoming a Democratic Party candidate

See how the rules suddenly don't apply to her now?

In name only. She hates Democrats and compared VOTING FOR OUR PRESIDENT ELECT TO A BOWL OF SHIT.

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

Now that will endear her to Democrats everywhere! She not only insulted out PE Biden but every American that voted for him as 'shit eaters'. No she does not deserve any respect until she shows some to OUR PARTY.

[MrsCoffee]

123. She has officially filed to run.

The day before you posted this.

https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00764423/1482460

Guess your post is inaccurate.

[lapucelle]

17. Superdelegate/PeoplePartyPerson/SenatorNinaTurner is running for Congress?

[StarfishSaver]

18. Nerve

[jrthin]

22. Ugh!!!!

[ismnotwasm]

41. Bravenekblog took her down so hard I was amazed.

It’s an incredible piece

[Cha]

46. Good to know... I can imagine!

NT needs to be held accountable for her words.

[My Pet Orangutan]

43. If someone is a member of the Peepholes Party, DSA, Greens or whatever

they should not be allowed to contest Democratic primaries. Renounce tied to 3rd parties, or get out.

[Budi]

50. Power to the peepholes ...snort..rofl

Ok. That's funny...

Completely agree with you on the renounce or get out.

NT & 3rd Party candidates need the Democratic Party far more than we need them.

[My Pet Orangutan]

51. Power to the People (2020 mix)

[Budi]

52. Yup. Power to the People/Lennon We the people..80,000,000+ Biden voters

👍💙

[George II]

56. Thanks. Very appropriate this week by the way! Great song/video.

[Chili]

49. a little unrelated

In that article I read about the two known possible candidates (Brown and Johnson), Dennis Kucinich was mentioned as a long shot, but he's actually running to be Cleveland's mayor again!

I met him as a kid - he visited our elementary school when he was a young councilman. He spoke in our library, and while doing his thing, I drew a portrait of him (why, why? ). It was actually pretty good! Afterwards, I showed my teacher and she took me over to him. He was pleased and autographed it. Wish I had kept it, but pretty sure it's lost forever, too long ago.

[mcar]

53. Does the OH Democratic party have to accept her?

[Chili]

54. betting someone has the answer to your question

... but my neighbor across the street works for the DNC. I need to catch him outside and talk to him. He's fairly new on our street, so I don't know he and his wife, except for a wave or "good morning" but when he put up his Biden sign, that's the first time we actually talked.

[relayerbob]

55. Why do we allow nutjobs in the Democratic party?

Look how well that worked for the GOP.

[haele]

58. I always wistfully hope that the radicals who think governance is a game of team opinions

Grow up and realize governance is a far more delicate balancing act than "leadership" is. When working for a diverse society, sometimes one has to stop pushing and f**king listen to what one might consider trivial or wrong simply because someone else's needs and desires for a future can be equally important for progress to occur.

There needs to be room for equal consideration of everyone -even ones you don't approve of - in the now, or in the future, you will probably find yourself shut out when the enemies you labeled gather together against you.
That's one of the reasons why historically, radicals always end up eating their own once they drive all the others out.

But people like Nina Turner never seem to realize that. To them, governance is a team sport where they set themselves up as a coach figure, assuming that proves they're a leader.. Unfortunately, they always end up causing more distraction and destruction than they "win".

Haele

[George II]

72. Yes indeed. And governance is more than playing on Twitch, or tweeting, or dancing on TikTok, too.

[Hortensis]

91. Many/most radicals are wired to aggression toward threatening ideologies,

"threatening" being any strong enough to frustrate their ambitions. That's us. They can't "grow up," it's what they are. At least so I've read from studies.

It's a core psychology they share with -- big surprise -- the aggressive trumpists also obsessed with demonizing and attacking the Democrats in their way.

Also not a big surprise, given all they have in common, is that hard-cores on both sides may move back and forth between camps. Or permanently, and then that seems to usually be from left to finding a home on the right. Maybe that could be viewed as a form of "growing up?" Makes sense given that RW hostiles are much more numerous and successful, not held back by the far left's relative wimpiness, and by then I imagine acting out their hostility has been sabotaging their claimed ideals for years anyway.

[Hekate]

63. With friends like that...

...who needs enemies?

[BlueLucy]

64. Prediction. She will lose and blame democrats.

[betsuni]

70. RIGGED!

Teh establishment will stop at nothing to defeat progressive blah blah blah...

[AmericanCanuck]

74. I'll give the max to her primary opponent

We don't want Nina Turner anywhere near any sort of power.

[msfiddlestix]

92. I hope we have a Strong Democratic Opponent lined up.

I wonder if anyone here has insight on who that might be? I'll send in my meager allowances for whoever we can get to clean her clocks as we would any wacko right wing nutter. Let that mystery person's campaign be announced soon!

[brooklynite]

95. "so she will have to run as a Democrat..."

I think I'll be in touch with my friends at ODP about his...

[George II]

96. That phrase jumped off the screen when I saw it yesterday. Hey Ms. Turner, don't do us any favors!!

[Cha]

178. NT would be a fucking Hypocrite IF

she ran as a Dem.. After all she's done to Drag on Hillary and Voted for 3rd party Liar Jill Stein.

Also scrounging up a 3rd party for 2020 & spewing "..voting for Biden is like eating a bowl of shit".

Stay your fucking Gaslit 3rd Party Lane, Nina.

[sheshe2]

194. I love your honesty!

[Cha]

196. Mahalo..

How dare she run as a Dem after all the Gaslighting she's done Against OUR Democratic PARTY!

[sheshe2]

197. She can run all she wants.

I would not vote for her. Non issue as I am not from Ohio.

However...

[melman]

98. Hello Somebody!

[AmericanCanuck]

105. I hope Hillary Clinton campaigns against this non-Democrat

and points directly at her support for Jill Stein.

She shouldn't even be allowed to be in the Democratic primary.

[KitSileya]

118. Nina Turner is not eligible to be a member of DU. She openly voted for Jill Stein

in 2016 and that would have seen her flagged for review here. Opposition to her should therefore not be sanctioned according to the ToS for not supporting Democrats, seeing as how Nina Turner is not a Democrat and does not support the Democratic Party.

[Budi]

164. Thank you. I agree.

[sheshe2]

195. Kit!

[Kali]

189. you might want to think about self deleting to lock this

alerts are happening way down thread that jurors can't see