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OAITW r.2.0

(32,564 posts)
1. Watch how this gets ground up by the Republican/Russian misinformation campaign.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 02:55 AM
Dec 2020

Let the RW Conspiracies begin!

Demobrat

(10,310 posts)
2. Does this mean the Trump humpers will refuse it?
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:52 AM
Dec 2020

And stick to infecting each other? And die out?
An I wrong to dream?

applegrove

(133,067 posts)
3. The Trumpers want data on who gets vaccinated. Like race data. So they
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:59 AM
Dec 2020

are very interested on how the races are doing and what they are doing in this plague. Africa seems to not be badly infected with COVID-19. Trumpers must be inconsolable.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
5. More importantly, the AA community has concerns about both access & trust re the medical community
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:15 AM
Dec 2020

While it is important to discover how different groups react to different medications and protocols (age and gender and race all play a part) there is also a long history of lack of access for the Black community, and an even more sordid past history of using human beings as guinea pigs. The Tuskegee experiments get mentioned, but there were other outrages.

I don’t know or care about the Trumpers’ feelings, except as it affects public health, but the Black community has a reservoir of distrust that has to be overcome.

applegrove

(133,067 posts)
6. True. But the anti-vaccine movement was given wings by Russian promotion
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:20 AM
Dec 2020

on the internet in the USA. They are pals with Trump. Don't be so sure a great culling is part of the GOP agenda.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
10. Ah, ... ok, didn't know this. Crap, on this issue it looks racism has made a bed that's hard to ...
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:40 AM
Dec 2020

... sleep in for a lot of people.

Russian propaganda being against the vaccine adds a whole other spin

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
12. Yes, The bots and trolls on FB have infiltrated every wedge group, afaik. The mommy-groups ...
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:54 AM
Dec 2020

...of anti-vaxxers were ripe for this kind of crap. Putin has no interest in any of it except to drive as many wedges as possible into American society. Thank you Cambridge Analytica, and screw Zuckerberg, who doesn't give a damn as long as he makes money.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
11. +1, A PoC being involved is great but doesn't address the horde of a-holes who's in charge of the
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:48 AM
Dec 2020

... federal government now or some not even acknowledging the recent past crap we have had to go through with the medical community at large.

I read an article saying more transparency the better, I'd like to see more testing data and that it was on a wider swath of humans.

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uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
9. I don't see this empirically addressing the issue of not trusting the government especially Trumps
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:37 AM
Dec 2020

... administration.

A PoC working on a vaccine is great buts its the government of a OPENLY ... and OVERTLY racist and hate filled towards non whites that's an issue among people I know.

Also its trusting a rushed out vaccine that, per CDC, is using technology that has never been licensed in the US before LINK and never broadly used in humans before vs doing the minimum NPI that has been successful around the world in controlling virus spread in countries that have a 10th of America's resources.

Because of TRUMP (not lack of vaccine) the US is being ripped by CV19 while other countries are walking around without masks or a 123412 round of stimulus.

Only 37% of ALL Americans are comfortable to be the first to get the vaccine so its not just black folk who are reticent.

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central scrutinizer

(12,655 posts)
13. Colbert renamed his show
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:20 PM
Dec 2020

“A Late Show and Assisted Living Facility” when he heard that retirement centers would be moved to the head of the line.

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