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SOUTHWEST Fla. Should Florida break away from the United States and become its own country?
According to one polling company, a growing number of Southwest Florida Republicans support the idea. A growing number also believe President Trump did not lose the election.
The poll was commissioned by Victory Insights with offices in Naples. It reveals nearly 70% of SWFL Republicans believe Joe Biden won because of fraud.
https://nbc-2.com/news/state/2020/12/10/local-republicans-support-florida-becoming-its-own-country/
Watch video at link.
Sanity Claws
(22,436 posts)Tell them that and see how far it goes.
TigressDem
(5,126 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)Sanity Claws
(22,436 posts)In a few years, Florida will have a lot of climate change refugees. They may not be eligible for entry in the US because they engaged in sedition and revolted from the US.
neeksgeek
(1,250 posts)Maybe they can join the Bahamas.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)When I was a kid, growing up in the deep South, there was a popular slogan that "The South shall rise again." Perhaps they were right.....
I need to buy me a white linen suit, and practice my "suhs." Yes suh!
William769
(59,147 posts)CatMor
(6,212 posts)obamanut2012
(29,507 posts)SWFL is full of Trumphumpers from the NY/NJ/CT area -- they can just stfu.
JCMach1
(29,240 posts)As well
"Texit? State representative will file bill to allow Texas to secede from the United States" https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/12/09/texit-state-representative-will-file-bill-to-allow-texas-to-secede-from-the-united-states/
TigressDem
(5,126 posts)Thekaspervote
(35,824 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)They could not tell a nurse shark from a bull shark. Which any native person from a coastal region can do at a glance. Most of them see manatees as an impediment to running their fancy boats as fast as they want. Usually while drunk.
TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)I know a few RW'rs from WI that moved to that area of FL.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We own "snowbird" property down there, but it's so modest that any deflation in its value should be offset by decrease in whatever we might choose to replace it. (I'm thinking a MH park again in a well policed retiree area since I'd expect crime to rise unacceptably in our rural area. Very beautiful, but interior FL has a lot of poverty, not like the retiree coasts.) And we live within a day's drive in the United States so could return home for medical care after the local hospitals become unacceptable.
I don't worry about passports, welcome, etc. Like any impoverished island, tourists bringing in money would be courted and areas where Americans wintered protected from the locals.
It'd be extremely hard on and unfair to the Floridians who wanted to remain Americans, of course. I'm sure they never thought they could find themselves citizens of third-world type country oppressed and even endangered by an authoritarian government. We would have to offer resettlement aid to fellow citizens who wanted to move north.
Chipper Chat
(10,923 posts)King Donald.
NCDem47
(3,522 posts)The WHOLE thing.
They have the own brand of crazy there.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,978 posts)Tourism and Oranges?
To succede is folly. It does not have enough of a tax base to support it.
lark
(26,112 posts)My area is a medical center, and there's huge medical centers in Orlando and Miami as well. FL also has a lot of livestock, and other fruits and veggies like strawberries, blueberries, tomatoes etc.
Yes, there are way too many KKK types here and they make me sick but the whole state isn't totally awful. I'd say KS is far worse from what I've seen and I know TX is as well.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,978 posts)Florida as its own country still would not have enough of a tax base to fund Government services at its local and Federal levels.
Any Military presence there would retreat back to the auspices of the USA, as would current Federal Government entities such as the FBI, NOAA, NHC, etc. Florida would have to establish itself as a Foreign country from scratch, establishing it's own currencies, Embassy, Laws, Government services, and more. Economic policies would be a mess for all the franchise businesses located there. Not to mention paying for its own disaster relief when a hurricane hits. Current sports teams like the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc, would leave.
Much to think about when talking of succession. .All residents would require a Passport in order to travel North and West too. Not every US Citizen has a Passport. To renew one today runs $125,00 . Ours cost $110.00 in 2016 for the next 10 years. More if applying for the first time.
lark
(26,112 posts)Talk goes around every once in a while, CA seceding from drumpf led version, TX seceding from Obama led version. It's just more sore loser talk from which nothing advances.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,978 posts)And not enough money to do it with. Florida does not have TRILLIONS of dollars on hand to pull this off.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They would likely be unable to enforce any immigration laws - it would be fun to see them overrun with illegal immigrants, both Hispanic and US Americans, not to mention Canadian snowbirds who could stay all year.
US American business would flourish at will and the threats of deportation be toothless. Nobody would come to Disney World and Georgia could take advantage to build a new one. US would make a substitute for Cape Canaveral, so they'd lose that, too. US tourists would still overwhelm their beaches.
Spanish might become their first language, to the chagrin of the rednecks that wanted this in the first place.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Tax break for the rich, "the market" will take care of the economy. No gov't services except handouts to corporations. So they'll do just fine.
Walleye
(45,380 posts)JCMach1
(29,240 posts)Literally our cities are at the mercy of the asshats in Austin right now
Walleye
(45,380 posts)I have friends and I know good people from both states, so we cant blame everybody. People cant help where theyre born.
vercetti2021
(10,481 posts)This election proved we are not changing rapidly. I fooled myself thinking we were. But we are not.
lark
(26,112 posts)We'd have to sell our house and move and I'd bet we couldn't sell it for a decent price either. Who would want to live in drumpfland except millionaires, idiots and pure haters?
William769
(59,147 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Pay your share of the national debt on the way out. And of course we'll have to move our military bases back to America.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)On their own for hurricane damage.
MineralMan
(151,531 posts)Thekaspervote
(35,824 posts)Let them go!
sanatanadharma
(4,090 posts)Impose the need for a travel visa on Floridians seeking summer succor in the states. They can tax themselves for a navy to keep their own coast free from southern freedom seekers.
marie999
(3,334 posts)and would most likely have to have an income tax.
Baitball Blogger
(52,707 posts)They can't support their secession dreams.
TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)Only a few more % Republicans. Its not like these states are solid block-red - they are 47-49% Democratic.
Maybe the only difference is that Republicans can get away with sounding crazy in FL, although they are also getting away with sounding crazier and crazier in the Midwest.
Baitball Blogger
(52,707 posts)The panhandle can't financially support itself, so maybe it can be annexed by Alabama. Though, Alabama may say no, because I don't think they can afford to support them either.
That little section between Tallahassee and Jacksonville can be annexed by Georgia, which would be a smart move for Republicans, since Georgia is going blue. It would be the next best thing to Gerrymandering.
We'll take Central Florida and South Florida.
It will be a process, but we can start buying out the pontoon owners around the Everglades. We might have to give up on the west coast all together.
We'll still have Disney.