Jill Biden shouldn't be referred to as 'Dr.'

[edbermac]

I’m getting a headache from all the stupid.

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[Demsrule86]

1. Dr. Jill Biden as a PHD has a right to the be called doctor. The WSJ can shut the fuck up.

[Ms. Toad]

21. She doesn't have a PhD.

It doesn't change her right to be called doctor - but her degree is an Ed.D. (a doctor of education, not a doctor of philosophy)

[MineralMan]

2. Unlike the author of that piece of crappy writing,

Jill Biden earned her doctorate. The author has a B.A.

If she prefers being called Dr. Biden, I'm more than happy to oblige her. I'll refer to the author as Bachelor Epstein.

[EndlessWire]

31. LOL! n/t

[jpak]

3. Epstein doesn't know the difference between an MD - a physician

And a Ph.D - which is a doctor.

Ignorant fuck

Yup

[Ms. Toad]

22. Her doctorate is an Ed.D, not a PhD. n/t

[jpak]

27. What does the "D" stand for?

[Ms. Toad]

29. I'm not arguing that she does not deserve to be called Doctor Biden.

But your assertion that she had a PhD is incorrect. She does not. She has an Ed.D. They are different (doctorate) degrees.

[usajumpedtheshark]

36. The D stands for doctorate. PhD is abbreviation Philosophy, Doctorate

The EdD is Education, Doctorate. I can explain the differences between the three main categories of doctoral degrees if anyone is really curious about it.

[irisblue]

4. No. Dr Biden worked for, did the research and defended her dissertation. She earned the title

Did you forget the sarcasm emoji?

[Under The Radar]

5. Oh but "Dr. Phill" is just fine?

[2naSalit]

6. Perhaps Mr. Epstein could be...

taught why he's a misogynous pig.

And I insist he apologize to her.

[Kitchari]

7. Mr. Foot-in-His-Mouth - Mr. Epstein - "Ep" - Kiddo:

You can shut up now and go away. Someone who earns a Ph.D deserves to be called "Dr.," NOT "kiddo"

[tonedevil]

8. Lil Andy's mommy...

should take away his Game Boy privileges until he can learn to be more respectful.

[Xipe Totec]

9. Epstein has a BA. Dr. Biden's credentials are above his skill set. nt

[MaryMagdaline]

10. "Kiddo?" What happened to "honey"?

She’s a grown woman. Dr Biden to you.

[idziak4ever1234]

11. Another example of GOP anti-intellectualism

[bigtree]

12. mansplained

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[regnaD kciN]

13. According to traditional formal etiquette, he's right...

They always maintain that only M.D.s should be given the title “Doctor.”

As an example, when my wife and I got married, we had to research the wording of the invitations, and found that my father-in-law, who held a Ph.D. in physics and worked as a consultant in the energy industry, had to be listed as “Mr.” rather than “Dr.”.

Now, when it comes to the world of academia, different rules apply, and it would be standard practice to refer to the future FLOTUS as “Dr. Biden” in the context of her work. But, outside of the academic world, traditional practice would say she shouldn’t be referred to by the title.

[Happy Hoosier]

26. Emily Post disagrees.

https://emilypost.com/advice/professional-titles

My wife has a PhD. She is a doctor. She EARNED it. Some in etiquette say proper style in addressing in writing shouldn’t use doctor, but rather PhD behind the name, but Doctor in formal speech is correct unless the person tells you to call them something else.

[Biophilic]

14. "Kiddo", "Kiddo", "Kiddo" what the F***

What right does this punk have to use "Kiddo" to refer to Dr. Biden? My ears are steaming and my hands are clenching. I'm so unimpressed with this little jerk. Who does he think he is? The Right just keeps telling us who they are and I for one believe them.

You should hope to be as professional, talented, and honored as Dr. Biden. On every single level she is head and shoulders above you.

"Kiddo"? What a stupid little twerp.

[Towlie]

15. That's like saying you're not an engineer unless you drive a train.

 
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[EndlessWire]

33. LOL! n/t

[SeattleVet]

16. An engineer friend, when introduced to someone as 'Dr. whatever', would reply...

"Are you a real doctor, or just an M.D.?"

[obamanut2012]

37. I love that!!!

[csziggy]

17. In the UK many medical doctors and sugeons are not called "Doctor"

In the United Kingdom, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and other areas whose culture was recently linked to the United Kingdom, the title Doctor generally applies to both academic and clinical environment. "Registered medical practitioners" usually do not have a doctorate; rather, they have the degree of Bachelor of Medicine (usually conjoint with Surgery). Cultural conventions exist, clinicians who are Members or Fellows of the Royal College of Surgeons are an exception. As an homage to their predecessors, the barber surgeons, they prefer to be addressed as Mr, Mrs, Ms or Miss, even if they do hold a doctorate. This is first because they have normally achieved another degree - that of Master of Surgery (MCh from the Latin magister chirurgiae) from a university. When a medically-qualified person passes the notoriously difficult examinations which enable them to become a member of one or more of the Royal Surgical Colleges and become "MRCS", it is customary for them to drop the "doctor" prefix and take up "mister". This rule applies to any doctor of any grade who has passed the appropriate exams, and is not the exclusive province of consultant-level surgeons. In recent times, other surgically-orientated specialists, such as gynaecologists, have also adopted the "mister" prefix. A surgeon who is also a professor is usually known as "Professor", and similarly a surgeon who has been ennobled, knighted, created a baronet, or appointed a dame uses the corresonding title (Lord, Sir, Dame). Physicians, on the other hand, when they pass their "MRCP" examinations, which enable them to become members of the Royal College of Physicians, do not drop the "Doctor" prefix and remain doctor, even when they are consultants. In the United Kingdom the status and rank of consultant surgeons with the MRCS, titled "mister", and consultant physicians with the MRCP, titled "doctor", is identical. Surgeons in the USA and elsewhere may have the title "doctor".

https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/12/physicians-titles.html

More at:
https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/international-doctors/life-and-work-in-the-uk/toolkit-for-doctors-new-to-the-uk/doctors-titles-explained

PhDs that are not doctor but that are academics may be called "Doctor" or "Professor."

So if the column writer objects to calling Dr. Biden "Dr." he should call her "Professor." Either will give her the respect and deference she should have with her credentials and experience.

[PCIntern]

19. We threw the Brits out over 200 years ago

Im not interested in their practices. Do we have a parliamentary government? My anti-Semitic Latin teacher called me Mr at a reunion. I told him he was a Nazi like his former king

As a dentist I am Mr in Britain...which would be fine except I’m not there. I’m here.

Many EdD’s are called Doctor and professor if applicable.

Oh yes one more thing. Fuck this guy.

[irisblue]

18. Chasten Buttigieg, who is working on his Masters degree in Education has something to add

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Source-https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2019/04/09/chasten-buttigieg-what-we-know-pete-buttigiegs-husband/3398186002/

snip-"Chasten Buttigieg then moved to Chicago to pursue a Master of Education in curriculum studies from DePaul University while working as a substitute teacher for Chicago Public Schools.

[KWR65]

20. What a sexist jerk. n/t

[drlindaphd]

23. What an idiot

Dr Biden has every right to use the title Dr. She earned it! Mr. Epstein certainly has a lot of nerve suggesting that she not use a title that she has earned the hard way, by completing a doctoral program and writing a dissertation, which is a piece of original research on a topic that has not been researched before.

I know how difficult this is because I did it. It is not the same as an Honorary Doctorate which is awarded to a person who has done nothing to earn it but is usually awarded to a graduation speaker who is a dignitary or celebrity.

It is also true that in many European countries, medical doctors are not called Doctor. The title Doctor is reserved for people in Academia.

I am very proud to have Jill Biden, our new First Lady who has earned a Doctorate and will be known as Dr. Biden.

[LeftishBrit]

24. Just WOW

Hasn't he ever heard of a Ph.D.?

And since when do you get to call the 69-year-old soon-to-be-First-Lady 'kiddo'?

[StarfishSaver]

25. As an academic with an earned Doctor of Education degree Jill Biden is entitled to go by "Dr."

[GulfCoast66]

28. My dad was a doctor of education. He was entitled to the honorary of Dr.

But because he left academia he never used the title. His card read ‘Gulfcoast66’s Father’ PhD.

Dr. Biden is still in academia. The guy who wrote this is a misogynist prick.

[drlindaphd]

32. Your dad's doctorate and title was not hororary,

It was real! He was entitled to call himself Doctor, because he earned it. An honorary doctorate is given by a university to people who did not earn it, but are given it as an honor.

[GulfCoast66]

34. Ok. Your right. He just chose not to use it because where he worked. But was very proud of it.

Born in a small southern town in the 30’s where most never even graduated high school and used his education and hard work to give his family a great life.

And a proud FDR democrat. We lost him when he was in his mid 50’s. Glad he never saw trump but wish he had been able to enjoy his retirement.

Have a nice evening.

[Crunchy Frog]

30. J Epstein needs to STFU.

[EndlessWire]

35. She should be called "Doctor."

I am hoping that she will be called upon to fix the problems that DeVos leaves behind. I know that there will be a Secretary appointed, but perhaps they can work it out together, amicably, without a title controversy. Maybe she could consult.

"First Doctor" is fine with me.