Sit down Everyone. Here we go . . . .

[no_hypocrisy]

New York Gov. Cuomo accused of sexual harassment by former development aide

A former aide to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo who is now running for Manhattan borough president accused him of sexual harassment in a series of tweets Sunday, saying he made inappropriate comments about her appearance.

Lindsey Boylan tweeted that the Democratic governor "sexually harassed me for years. Many saw it, and watched."

"I could never anticipate what to expect: would I be grilled on my work (which was very good) or harassed about my looks. Or would it be both in the same conversation? This was the way for years," she continued.

Boylan, 36, worked for the Cuomo administration from March 2015 to October 2018, serving first as executive vice president of Empire State Development, and then as a special adviser to Cuomo for economic development.

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[Dream Girl]

1. In case he's thinking of running in 2024, may as well rough him up now.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Also to prevent Biden from nominating Cuomo for USAG.

[peggysue2]

23. Got a feeling this is figuring into the complaint

Regardless of where you stand on a Cuomo appointment, I think the majority realize that Trumpers and the alt-right know that Cuomo would not shirk from coming after all of them. That would include the King Corruption at the tippy-top of a very rotten pyramid. There's no love loss between Cuomo and Trump, the latter resenting Cuomo's star presence in his daily Covid-19 briefings.

Cuomo tends to put the fear of God (and the law) in lots of these people. So . . . bring him down a peg or two.

Of course, I could be wrong and the complaint could be legitimate. But until we see evidence of another harassment complaint (think Tara Read vs Biden), I'll remain suspicious. Even the timing is . . . curious, to say the least.

[IsItJustMe]

68. That was my first thought. Bloody him up before he has a chance.

[Boogiemack]

51. Well, if he is talking about women's looks, he must be qualified to be President. Trump set the bar

[brooklynite]

32. So, you're saying Democrats want to "rough him up"?

[Hav]

81. It's possible. Just like Democrats tried to rough up Biden

with made up nonsense. Why would that surprise you when it happened before?

[LizBeth]

3. What woman would be surprised with this conversation. Yes, we know what she is talking about

and can well be right. Cuomo and many men think they have the right, and so they do and we all sit back and watch. What was the piece abut DR Jill Biden?

[Disaffected]

18. That's what we need:

Iron clad innuendo.

Hang'em high I say!

[LizBeth]

20. Who said a damn thing about "Iron clad innuendo. Hang'em high I say!"

That is what you got from the very very little I dared to say out loud? I think there may be some reflective that is needed here.

[Yeehah]

42. You expressed that Cuomo is guilty as accused

'Cuomo thinks he has the right and so he did' is a reasonable interpretation of your post.

[LizBeth]

43. Cuomo and many men think they have.... conjecture and you damn well know it.

And it still doesn't hit : "Iron clad innuendo. Hang'em high I say!"

[Dream Girl]

44. Cuomo is guilty cuz he's aman and many men are guilty.

We all know that

[LizBeth]

48. Read what you want into... I am done.

[Drahthaardogs]

77. Good. Shades of Al Franken

Never again.

[rzemanfl]

5. +1. n/t

[Dem4Life1102]

7. The woman accusing him is a liberal democrat

not a Republican.

[forthemiddle]

22. MeToo for everyone

Except if I happen to like the guy?

Just saying, this seems to be an ongoing theme. Either we believe women, or we don’t.

[forthemiddle]

28. I am just trying to figure out the rules

So according to you, we only believe women if the accuse men that we don’t agree with politically.

Ok got it!

[uponit7771]

52. Believe the accuser doesn't mean guilty accused it means go through the process. I don't believe

... we're still clarifying this crap years later.

[ahoysrcsm]

73. Statute of limitations.

How many days, weeks, months, years... do we wait for an accusation to appear? Does $metoo have an unlimited statute of limitation? Do we accept all $metoo accusations without merit or validation?

Should Biden appoint a $metoo czar, and we investigate all men "just because they are men?"

Did you vote for Biden after he was accused by a woman, aka Biden's $metoo accusation?

[dsc]

57. she and all accusers have a right to be taken seriously

they don't have a right to have their word treated as divine writ. She claims that many people witnessed this. Well, get them under oath and see what they say.

[forthemiddle]

67. I absolutely agree with you

My post was to point out that #METOO means we take them seriously, and investigate. Unforetunately the automatic response from some is if they support the accused, the accuser automatically has ulterial motives. But if it's a Republican, we believe it right away.

I just ask that we take EVERY accusation seriously, and go from there.

[Dem4Life1102]

26. He was being considered

and wasn’t chosen yet. Cuomo deserves to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. The woman accusing him is a liberal democrat currently running for Manhattan Borough president in NYC. If she produces no evidence, no one should hold it against Cuomo. But if she does he should be held accountable.

[Dem4Life1102]

37. True none of us know

so it is too soon to pass judgment in either direction. And everyone regardless of who they are should be held to the same standard.

[brooklynite]

34. So we should immediately discount any sexual harassment claim?

[Dream Girl]

46. At this point, yes. It has so obviously been weaponized. We can't keep falling for this shit.

[uponit7771]

55. Believe the accuser doesn't mean the accused is guilty and never has no matter who was...

... invovled

[Drahthaardogs]

78. Nope. But we should assume innocent until proven guilty

And question the timing

[Caliman73]

82. No. There is a third way.

People are reacting to the situation from what appears to be an emotional and/or realpolitik perspective. Some pointing out that men have a pattern of this behavior, therefore... others saying that right wingers have weaponized the sexual harassment claim, implying that perhaps the woman has been compromised.

The way to go about this is to report the allegations, allow for the investigation (without speculating)to be conducted, then based on the evidence, draw the conclusions and proceed with what is needed to be done to hold someone accountable.

Because we are emotional, tribal, and no always rational, people will continue to either proceed like Cuomo is guilty, or to trash the name of his accuser.

[2naSalit]

6. Two words for her...

Prove it.

[onecaliberal]

8. We have an ACTUAL rapist in the White House and in the Supreme Court

Maybe repukes should care about that. It’s sad but I seriously doubt this.

[Dem4Life1102]

9. If it is just her accusing him

it won’t matter.

If other women start coming forward it will have an affect.

[Dem4Life1102]

29. The woman accusing him is a liberal democrat.

While he deserves the presumption of innocence, we shouldn’t pass judgment on this woman or any others who may or may not come forward in the future. If none do, this will be quickly forgotten.

[Dem4Life1102]

38. I said he deserves the presumption of innocence

Reread my post.

[Dream Girl]

47. They probably have them lined up. This is right out of their playbook.

Fuck them.

[Dem4Life1102]

56. Who has them lined up?

[Dream Girl]

58. Guess.

[Dem4Life1102]

59. You tell me

[LanternWaste]

63. Goodness gracious.

Obvious inferences can be difficult.

[Dem4Life1102]

66. Only difficult if

there is no evidence to back them up.

[ahoysrcsm]

75. We MUST investigate every $metoo accusation.

Book deal by the accuser be damned.

[TheBlackAdder]

12. She ran against Jerry Nadler & for Manhattan Borough President in 2020. Both times got 21% of vote.

.

Two races in the same year, with nearly the same results.

.

[hamsterjill]

13. I tire of this.

First and foremost, NO ONE should ever have to tolerate sexual harassment.

Now, that said, this woman continued to work there for three years and did not report this. I realize that this happens and that there are reasons for it. But the timing of her accusation is certainly suspicious.

I still think the best defense against sexual harassment in a professional environment at least is to stand up, scream out “I will not tolerate that type of behavior toward me” and walk away. I’m not sure credibility isn’t damaged by waiting two years from departure from a job to accuse someone of harassment.

[uponit7771]

49. +1, and part of the claim is it was out in the open and "many saw it and watched" but no one has ...

... spoken up by now!?

I'll wait

[stillcool]

16. She doesn't want to talk to journalists

she obviously didn't report it. So what does she want? She's making accusations to validate the
abuse of other women. The logic eludes me.

She did not provide details of the alleged harassment and didn't immediately respond to messages from The Associated Press. Boylan later tweeted, "To be clear: I have no interest in talking to journalists. I am about validating the experience of countless women and making sure abuse stops."
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Boylan's sexual harassment allegation against Cuomo comes after The Associated Press and others reported that the 63-year-old governor is under consideration for the job of attorney general in the administration of President-elect Joe Biden.
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[tblue37]

17. Basically, she seems to be saying he commented on her looks.

[LymphocyteLover]

71. that's what she appears to be saying and while that's a form of harassment

a lot depends on the details and it's a pretty low level of offense. It shouldn't be considered on the same level as physical harassment and worse. It sounds like they had a bad relationship.

I'm no Cuomo fan but this seems like small potatoes right now.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. This surprises me not at all.

[Baclava]

21. If we're going somewhere, shouldn't we be standing up?

[BGBD]

25. "Harassed about my looks"

means what exactly. Talking about how someone looks or is dressed is not in and of itself sexual harassment.

[Dream Girl]

50. "You look nice today" harassment

Probably some shit like that which explained why she doesn’t want to be interviewed by journalists.

[kcr]

61. Acually, it is

Don't talk about the looks of your co-workers. How is that hard?

[smirkymonkey]

27. Sorry, not buying this.

"She did not provide details of the alleged harassment and didn't immediately respond to messages from The Associated Press. Boylan later tweeted, "To be clear: I have no interest in talking to journalists. I am about validating the experience of countless women and making sure abuse stops."

[brooklynite]

35. What annoys me about this discussion ...

...is the immediate jump to "It's the Republicans" based on no evidence at all.

This is someone who worked for Cuomo in a senior position, and is a Democratic candidate. Are you suggesting she's a mole?

[Dem4Life1102]

40. Great point

Cuomo deserves the presumption of innocence but this woman also deserves to be heard. In the end the truth will come out.

[Renew Deal]

53. Nina Turner

[LymphocyteLover]

70. what about her?

[Dream Girl]

54. The timing is too much of a coincidence she was paid off.

[LanternWaste]

64. "You have the option of not reading them..."

If annoyed, you stay by choice, or ignore by choice, yes? That seemed quite the bumper sticker last month. I imagine this month isn't too different.

Goalpost movements are an option too.

[Dorian Gray]

69. Exactly this

She has a good reputation. Is it really SO OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF POSSIBILITY that Cuomo would be capable of this? I don't think so.

She is stating her experience. Is this disqualifying? I guess we can have a longer discussion. Having said that, "republican mole" is ridiculous.

[Chin music]

36. Where's Roger Stone?

And has anyone dusted this accusation for his fingerprints?

[demmiblue]

41. I'll wait until I hear more.

Not gonna lie, there is a machismo factor that I have sensed from him.

[Beringia]

80. Like a certain dose of Neanderthal DNA

[Buckeyeblue]

45. It's not particularly fair to herself or Cuomo to level vague accusations in public

Not fair to her because it makes her sound like she is not telling the truth. Not fair to Cuomo because how can he defend himself against such a thing.

[octoberlib]

60. From the NYT

She has been a frequent critic of Mr. Cuomo and has long hinted at tensions with the governor’s office on social media. In 2019, Boylan, whose daughter was 5 at the time, tangled with a former Cuomo aide, Jim Malatras, about the extent to which the office accommodated working parents.

In another Twitter thread earlier this month, Ms. Boylan described her experience working for Mr. Cuomo as “beyond toxic” and “endlessly dispiriting.”

And on Saturday, after The Associated Press reported that President-elect Joe Biden was considering the governor for attorney general, Ms. Boylan pleaded with Mr. Biden to reconsider.

“There are fewer things more scary than giving this man, who exists without ethics, even more control,” she said on Twitter. “I saw how he wielded power for years. He takes advantage of people, including me. I hope ⁦@JoeBiden⁩ & ⁦⁦@KamalaHarris⁩ don’t do this.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/nyregion/cuomo-sexual-harassment.html

[Judi Lynn]

62. I'm sitting down. Once I was harrassed beyond my limit to accept. I quit immediately. There I went.

It took no time at all to make that choice.

Better luck in your future post choices.

Here I go.

[kentuck]

65. Obviously, somebody doesn't want Andrew as Attorney General??

Wonder who that could be??

[mackdaddy]

72. According to this KTLA article, She has some issues of her own

According to this KTLA article, She has some issues of her own.

Personnel memos written in 2018, obtained by The Associated Press, indicate that Boylan resigned after she was confronted about complaints about her own office behavior.

Several women complained to Empire State Development’s human resources department that “Ms. Boyland had behaved in a way towards them that was harassing, belittling, and had yelled and been generally unprofessional,” wrote the administration’s ethics officer, Julia Pinover Kupiec in one memo.

Boylan resigned after meeting with officials including Cuomo’s top lawyer, Alphonso David, to be “counseled” about the complaints.

David said in a follow-up memo that Boylan had contacted him several days later and said she had reconsidered her resignation and wished to return to work, but he discouraged her from doing so.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/former-aide-accuses-ny-gov-cuomo-of-sexually-harassing-her-for-years/

[George II]

74. "This was the way for years..." - she worked for him for 3 years....

Anyone who isn't "grilled" on their work has a lousy boss.

I wonder how many people out there have been "harassed" about their looks? I know I was, and didn't consider it "harassment".

A few other observations:

1. If she didn't like the comments she could have, or should have said something at the time
2. She hasn't mentioned anything about physical contact
3. She chose to do this publicly on Twitter
4. She refuses to speak to journalists

[AmericanCanuck]

76. Justice Democrats' Tara Reade Redux

[marie999]

79. She is saying he made inappropriate comments about her appearance.

What inappropriate comments. Did he call her ugly or just say he thought the dress she was wearing was nice. I guess I could have been accused of making sexual harassment comments when I told a guy I liked his new tie. Tell us what he said or shut up.