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struggle4progress

(126,154 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 05:30 PM Dec 2020

Fake electors try to deliver Arizona's votes

Ronald J. Hansen
Arizona Republic

In another sign of the lingering unrest over President Donald Trump's election loss, an Arizona group sent the National Archives in Washington, D.C., notarized documents last week intended to deliver, wrongly, the state's 11 electoral votes for him.

Copies of the documents obtained by The Arizona Republic show a group that claimed to represent the "sovereign citizens of the Great State of Arizona" submitted signed papers casting votes for what they want: a second term for Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.

Mesa resident Lori Osiecki, 62, helped created a facsimile of the "certificate of ascertainment" that is submitted to formally cast each state's electoral votes as part of an effort to prevent what she views as the fraudulent theft of the election ...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/14/arizona-groups-fake-electors-try-cast-11-electoral-votes-trump/6536056002/


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Fake electors try to deliver Arizona's votes (Original Post) struggle4progress Dec 2020 OP
Hopfully this bluestarone Dec 2020 #1
Also from the linked story: SharonClark Dec 2020 #2
Send in the clowns Blue Owl Dec 2020 #3
This infuriates me! SharonClark Dec 2020 #4
This video is two years old and isn't related to the story. nt littlemissmartypants Dec 2020 #5
OP is about "Sovereign Citizens" -- and so is the video struggle4progress Dec 2020 #6
I get that. It just took me a while to make the connection. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Dec 2020 #8
I'm not complaining. JHB Dec 2020 #9
The incredibly funny part of this is that Bettie Dec 2020 #7
If they sent it to the National Archives it is fraud. yellowcanine Dec 2020 #10
They tased the sovereign citizen! yellowcanine Dec 2020 #11
He becomes even more sovereign when he's knocked out and dragged. Arne Dec 2020 #12
These people are so dumb Jason1961 Dec 2020 #13

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
2. Also from the linked story:
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 05:35 PM
Dec 2020
The 11 electors actually chosen by Arizona voters last month — meeting in an unpublicized location because of security concerns over their task — cast their votes Monday for President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, formalizing the Democrats' victory nationally and in the state.


That was the sane part.

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
4. This infuriates me!
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 05:38 PM
Dec 2020
Arizona's ersatz electors sent their choices using documents notarized by Melanie Hunsaker, who works in real estate. Her husband, Jamie Hunsaker, is a Trump enthusiast and one of the purported electors.

Donald Paul Schween, another would-be elector, has been active in Republican Party politics.

Federico Buck, another real estate veteran, is among the signatories. Others include Cynthia Franco, Sarai Franco, Stewart A. Hogue, Carrie Lundell, Christeen Taryn Moser, Danjee J. Moser, Jessica Panell and Peter Wang. Osiecki attested to the group's eligibility as electors.

It was not immediately clear if the group's effort broke any state or federal laws.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
7. The incredibly funny part of this is that
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:01 PM
Dec 2020

"Sovereign Citizens" generally claim not to recognize any government above county sheriffs.

yellowcanine

(36,792 posts)
10. If they sent it to the National Archives it is fraud.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:09 PM
Dec 2020

If any attempt was made to make it appear as official Nevada electoral votes they can be prosecuted for fraud at least, maybe sedition.

Jason1961

(461 posts)
13. These people are so dumb
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:36 PM
Dec 2020

We really need to work on our education system

We have a bunch of them in Florida

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