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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSen. Kelly Loeffler's property tax plunged after mansion's value mysteriously dropped
The Georgia Republican bought the 15,000-square-foot mansion in 2009 with her husband Jeffrey Sprecher for $10.5 million, then the most expensive home purchase in the citys history, but the value suddenly dropped to $4.15 million in 2016, reported The Daily Beast.
You know somethings wrong there, if there was just a singular discount, said R.J. Morris, a former member of the Fulton County Board of Assessors who reviewed the tax documents with the couples names redacted.
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Even more curiously, seven of their eight closest neighbors saw their property values rise, according to records kept by Fulton County, where officials were unable to offer an explanation for the discrepancy.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/sen-kelly-loefflers-property-tax-plunged-after-mansions-value-mysteriously-dropped/
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)and it is still not enough. How can you vote for people like this?
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)People like Trump and Loeffler become obsessed with ways they can game the system. If they see an opportunity to get a little more for themselves, they take it 100% of the time. They physically cannot help themselves, they feel like they'll burst into flames if they don't wring every last penny out of every possible opportunity to grift.
Trump never pays for anything, he always finds a way for someone else to pay. The thought of someone like him having the entire US treasury at his fingertips is nauseating. We will spend generations trying to figure out all of the thousands of ways Donald Trump scammed US taxpayers while President.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)of what must motivate these people. It's so foreign to the way most of us look at the world that until your explanation it hadn't occurred to me that they are literally obsessed with scamming society to accumulate more and more money. But, after reading your post, it makes sense, albeit because these people are twisted.
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)I've known some great small business owners, but the majority of them have the same mindset, just maybe not to the degree of dishonesty Trump does.
Owning a small business is often about watching every penny in order to turn a profit, it becomes an obsession to figure out ways to save a buck or two. And the system is set up with so many opportunities to work within it to pay less in taxes, get more credits, and save on expenses. It's a fine line between working the system and gaming it.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)but the entire RepubliCON administration, his appointees, and the entire group of RepubliCON Senators
It was like a free for all, (literally) for all of them.....many were allowed in to play rape and run, and then left after they had fattened up their bank accounts by their actions while in office.....
All Senator Twat did was take a page out of Trump's playbook for the past decades, and use it on her personal Tax reduction plan........
You have to ask yourself, when is enough, enough. Evidently never for her and her Uber Wealthy husband.......
Same for all the Uber Wealthy across the entire nation.........
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)Trump is a criminal, he only trusts people he has leverage over, he get leverage by having them commit crimes with/for him. It's exactly how the mafia operates.
mitch96
(13,892 posts)My motto is follow the money.... Who preformed the appraisal? who was his boss and his bosses boss. Did their bank account suddenly swell? Did someone in the office get a big
promotion??? power and money is all these repukes understand...
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TheRickles
(2,057 posts)There is never enough, so why not become a senator so you can find ways to make more, like get some really cool insider stock tips. These people are obscene.
Escurumbele
(3,386 posts)a semi formed opinion just by looking at Loeffler's face, she has this very mean look, there is some discomfort in her soul that comes out of her eyes...I don't know, maybe I am biased, but that is what I see.
japple
(9,821 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)and I don't usually draw conclusions based on people's looks, but these two...
Hekate
(90,644 posts)My husband goes by the eyes, and hes been right every time.
I was raised to believe dont judge a book by its cover, and other sayings that if taken too far cause you to override your instincts and intuition.
He was raised to listen to his instincts and intuition, and hes really much better at it than me. When he looks at a public figure on TV and says their eyes are crazy or empty or dead I now mute the tv for a bit and take a second look at body language, and yes, the eyes.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)Voltaire quote?
AZ8theist
(5,453 posts)Can these two Georgia Senators be any MORE VILE SCUM??????
They are both in it for THEMSELVES. How much more fucking obvious does it get???
Seriously, Georgians.......HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THESE TWO PIECES OF SHIT????????????????
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)with so many of his properties?
Rebl2
(13,492 posts)called him up and asked how do I get away with this. Hope the folks in Georgia are paying attention to this.
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)and vote accordingly.
I had a thought, a sort of happy one, that "come the revolution" people like these 2 would be rendered into dog food. Then I realized that such an act would only poison a lot of innocent dogs.
My prediction for the race as a Marylander who only knows what he reads in the internet:
Loeffler will lose, not so much because she's a greedy grifter as because she affects a robotic personality in public. Georgians of faith will either not vote (if they are GOP-leaning) of vote for the pastor.
Purdue's contest is going to be very close because he's a white guy who wears suits. True, he's a crook who was called out in a public debate as a criminal -- and could muster no response -- and he has also appeared in public with his lips puckered fast to Trump's bottom, but if the white Republican voters who were crushed by Trump's defeat come out for him (and they will) he could squeak by Ossoff who, after all, is jewish, like Leo Frank, doncha know?
Captain Zero
(6,801 posts)Now has she taken a mortgage on it and did she value it HIGHER for that purpose? Because that would make her the True Trumper.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)tanyev
(42,550 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)The property value plunged because neighbors found out ignorant Magats moved into the neighborhood...
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)and a tv ad for both democrats, slamming republicans as corrupt.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Either the tax assessor was on the take, or an appraiser undervalued the property in order to lower the assessed value, or an appraisal was doctored. The fact that adjoining mansions' values didn't also decline points to the fact that this was a singular event and someone has defrauded the taxpayers of Fulton County.
These people make me sick.
padah513
(2,500 posts)I was wondering how they might have done it.
I certainly hope this is resolved with criminal charges and/or heavy fines.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)No doubt she's just the GOP tip of the ice berg in that regard.
I wonder how long it will be before she throws her husband under the bus, and blames this on him.
keithbvadu2
(36,774 posts)mn9driver
(4,423 posts)I wont hold my breath. These folks never seem to be held accountable.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Who owns the NY Stock Exchange probably isnt a buy high-sell low fan.
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts).
The net result was that everyone's property taxes were published and people were able to inspect everyone who lived around them. It turned out that all politically connected people and certain employees and management of state, county and township boards were given reduced assessments while their neighbors taxes were raised. This was the work of a third-party tax assessing firm that was working with the township's tax assessor.
This forced a reversal of the town's tax assessment to the last stable version and then a FREEZE on assessments for 10 YEARS!
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George II
(67,782 posts)....undervaluing property to reduce tax liability.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)She just took a page out of his play book. Rachel covered this during the campaign in 2016, but I guess it was dismissed as fake news by the MSM. Seems he would under value for tax purposes, but over value the same property when he was using it as collateral. Or selling it like he did to a Russian oligarch who was trying to hide money from his soon to be ex-wife. It was appraised at something like 1.8 million (for taxes), but sold for around $65 million. I believe in the real world, that's called money laundering, and possibly tax fraud.
Hekate
(90,644 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)And it's not the ability to withstand cold. It takes some nerve to go out in public when you are as terrible a person as KL, let alone run for a very significant office.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)They'll always find someone to blame and will never take responsibility and say their accountants should have noticed but they didn't.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,174 posts)Aussie105
(5,380 posts)This tap leaks!
Valuer: Right! Take $1M off the value.
These bathroom tiles are stained!
Valuer: Right! Take another $1M off the value.
The lawn is looking shabby.
Valuer: Right! Take another $1M off the value.
The kitchen is starting to look dated.
Valuer: Right! Take another $2M off the value.
Not too hard, is it? Or maybe it's done to avoid property tax? Oh no, how subversive, how devious! How could they? /sarcasm
Valuer: Now where is that brown envelope with $50K in it?