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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave you noticed how often Trump supporters scream the US is a Republic and not a Democracy?
What is all that about? Is this some BS that rightwing radio and Fox has been hitting them with? Do they think the Democratic Party is illegitimate or something because we are technically a Republic? Do they not understand that the major difference between a democracy and a republic is that a republic is a form of government and a democracy is an ideology that helps shape how a government is run. So a republic is the SYSTEM of government that allows a country to be democratic.
It's very nuanced so I am sure it goes way over the top of their heads. I have seen this frequently on the Daily Show when they interview Trump supporters. I wish the interviewer would have this information handy and throw it at them so they could just stand there with blank looks on their faces.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)BarackTheVote
(938 posts)whose republican representatives are elected via democratic processes. It really aint that hard to understand.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)whose Republican representatives are elected by fascist, racist, and sexist asshats which puts a strain on our democratic processes to elect Democrats to office to fix everything.
SharonAnn
(13,778 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)... it excuses their anti-democracy tactics.
Reminds me of them trying to argue that the Nazis were the socialists in Germany, simply because it was part of their name. Yet the Nazis had the support of many industrialists who were terrified of the actual socialists and communists gaining power, similar to the leanings towards fascism that's been encouraged by right-wing propaganda outlets in the USA for years.
Quixote1818
(28,977 posts)God I fucking hate these ignorant, treasonous scumbags.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)... will argue just about anything to justify GOP victory.
brush
(53,871 posts)government, industry and the military, which is exactly what Hitler's Germany was, and what trump wanted here.
The odds of that happening is slim as Hitler being appointed Chancellor was almost to appease the nazis and stave off the communist/socialist factions of the time. Only when Hindenburg, the president and leader who appointed him, died did he gain the power of leader of Germany. It was just a quirk of history, an accident almost.
Paladin
(28,275 posts)Don't ever let one corner you at a party while howling that crap. I speak from experience.
is the truth
Midnight Writer
(21,803 posts)TomSlick
(11,109 posts)They're eyes glaze over if you attempt to explain the concept of a democratic republic.
Chainfire
(17,644 posts)I have begun to refer to our system of government as a Representative Democracy. It is as correct as calling it a Republic. What really gripes my ass is when the Rightwingnuts refer to majority rule as "Mob Rule." Some of the founders used the terms Republic and Democracy interchangeably. If it is good enough for them, it is good enough for me. What really galls the right is when you tell them that when you are voting on an referendum, you are practicing straight up Democracy.
louis-t
(23,297 posts)Pugs used to start every sentence with it. One of my relatives tried it on me once. Some people just repeat whatever they hear without thinking. I had to explain that the "democracy is the style of government and the republic is the entity." I remember Falwell being interviewed about something totally different, yet he started his first sentence with that. It's like they're programmed.
brush
(53,871 posts)which is called a republic. And it's actually not just a republic but a federal republic.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But as the have an inherited head of state, a king or queen, they are not a republic.
Thats the simplest definition of a republic. An elected head of state. The form that government takes can vary. France has a government that is very different than ours but they are also a republic.
brush
(53,871 posts)A central government overarching our state and local governments all connected by representative of the people.
yonder
(9,676 posts)And it's useful to emphasize "federal" when they try to bring up the Democracy/Republic distinction. Their smarmy smile can turn to one of confusion when one keeps hammering on "federal". I don't know if that's a red herring or not, but often enough they will lose their way in an argument. It can be great fun when you take their "republic" point right away from them and leave them sputtering.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Which they liked, in 2016.
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)The US is a Constitutional Federal Republic, but you are absolutely correct. A Republic is a form of government where the people by virtue of elected representatives, hold power. Democracy comes from the greek, Demos, which were the common people. So Democracy is the idea that the people choose their representatives.
People who listen to right wing media, are not listening for the purpose of being stimulated to thinking about new ideas. They listen to confirm their biases.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)What the Pig and his lackeys want is a christofascist theocracy
Walleye
(31,057 posts)ooky
(8,929 posts)They have become very robotic.
Cirque du So-What
(25,988 posts)without having a democracy first.
LeftInTX
(25,558 posts)Islamic Republic of Iran, Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, Republic of Cuba??
Those are official names..ours is United States of America
Aristus
(66,465 posts)By implying that because the name of their party is the Republican Party, that somehow has relevance because we are a republic.
The poor stupid bastards can't get it into their empty heads that we are a democratic republic, and that the names of the major political parties are essentially irrelevant, and only exist because political parties need names.
coti
(4,612 posts)comes down to "Republican" vs. "Democrat" for them. They think calling it a "republic" and de-legitimizing "democracy" gives "Republicans" stronger claim to the country.
It really is just that fucking stupid.
Remember that these are the same people who proudly claim to be the party of Lincoln while they march with torches and swastikas and wave Confederate flags. They don't put a whole lot of effort into thinking these things out and being conceptually consistent.
Quixote1818
(28,977 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)All they do is repeat phrases they hear on Fox, OAN and Newsmax. Parler is another cesspool for these ignorant sheep.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)much less a republic from a democracy from a dictatorship.
Chainfire
(17,644 posts)It that they claim that Democrats are racist and Republicans are not. They want to take the party back to Civil War times to justify their statements.
They get all of this ear wash from Right-wing media, because they are not creative enough to come up with it on their own.
kurtcagle
(1,604 posts)Democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
The distinction that separates Democrats and Republics is in the following:
whole population [D's] or all the eligible members of a state [R's]
Republicans in general do not believe that anyone who believes differently than they do should be eligible to vote. To that extent, they go through any number of justifications about why the country is not a true democracy, most of which do not hold up under scrutiny. This is what happens when a party ceases to have a cohesive platform and stays in existence solely to remain in power.
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)no matter how much demographics, and people's beliefs and votes, change to make them a smaller minority every election.