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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn case you were curious, here's the lot Jarvankas want to buy
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Something like 1.8 acre, for 31.8 million asking, private Island with few residents, 24 hour police, guarded and gated.
can you imagine what their house would look like?
It's an open secret she wants to run for some sort of public office in Fla. and is establishing residency, altho the New York house will be theirs also.
Really good pics of the area. I esp. like noting how close to zero sea level it all is even now.
In a few years, everyone there will get a lesson on how and why those little islands were formed.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/M5581279739
gibraltar72
(7,515 posts)jmbar2
(4,912 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)One rock for them to slither under is pretty much like any other rock.
wishstar
(5,272 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,239 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)jeffreyi
(1,945 posts)I was going to say, how do they do septic tanks on those sites, then I remembered I am a lower middle class country bumpkin and duh rich people probably pump everything out.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Looks like a pretty nice spot I gotta admit, but at that price? With no house? That's freaking absurd.
And NOT what I would choose if I had 31.8M to throw around though, hell no ... I'd be on the CA coast for sure.
Or maybe an actual tropical island, not this wannabe island bullshit.
Raven
(13,907 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)crazylikafox
(2,763 posts)Really ugly
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)sheesh.
electric_blue68
(14,986 posts)malaise
(269,250 posts)given the increasing number of hurricanes and the increasing strength of said hurricanes.
cojoel
(958 posts)I guess since they deny climate change they wouldn't think about hurricanes or rising seas.
malaise
(269,250 posts)electric_blue68
(14,986 posts)moonscape
(4,675 posts)scam involved at some point.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Insurance must be stratospheric.
magicarpet
(14,201 posts)Storm gets it,... rebuild,... the insurance covers all damage costs. The next storm gets it,... rebuild,... the insurance covers it,.. a free rebuild, update, and remodel no charge. Ad infinitum - next storm, full rebuild coverage costs by insurance company.
So in essence those home owners not subject to flood and storm damage subsidize the houses that are. If you have an ocean view and the ocean tears your house apart you just rebuild and rebuild each time it happens and someone else picks up most of the rebuilding costs.
There should be storm damage and flood damage zones where rebuilding is not permitted because it is prone to habitual damages by rising ocean tides, storms, hurricanes, or floods.
By ignoring man made global weather change the incidences will surely rise for costal damages to seaside housing.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)difficult to get if you live in a flood zone.
sorta the opposite would be landslide insurance, don't even know if that is a real thing, but more landslides are happening, esp.following forest fires.
Higher strong ocean tides are also undermining cliff walls that hold up very expensive property.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)royable
(1,266 posts)except for the wires and cables strung between telephone poles in the way of the seaside view.
Pay an extra half million to have all the wires and cables put underground?
Yes, seems idiotic for jarvanka to pay all that money to live in a flood zone.
5X
(3,972 posts)AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,648 posts)There will be death and calamity associated with it.
Not me saying this, but tales from my Celtic ancestors.
LakeArenal
(28,863 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,648 posts)LakeArenal
(28,863 posts)enid602
(8,661 posts)The ad in realtor.com shows a $31,800,000 asking price. Pretty pricey for a lot that will be underwater soon.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)nolabear
(42,001 posts)CatMor
(6,212 posts)just flat land with some trees. 31.8 million seems way overpriced but the wealthy always overpay for everything.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)With sea levels rising due to global warming and increasing strong hurricanes, that is definitely not a wise long term investment. Oh well, these idiots believe it's a big hoax so let them find out the hard way.
bullimiami
(13,110 posts)hopfully they will be busy with their court cases and wont get much enjoyment out of it.
MLAA
(17,352 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,648 posts)They assume they are going to be OK.
MLAA
(17,352 posts)However I think it will catch up to them before too long.
Irish_Dem
(47,648 posts)csziggy
(34,139 posts)If I were stupid enough and had enough money to buy into coastal property in Florida, that's what I would plan for.
View from the Cape Florida Light
Stiltsville's frontier era ended with Hurricane Betsy in 1965. Beginning in August 1965, the state of Florida required building owners to pay $100 annually to lease their quarter-acre circular "campsites." No permits for new construction were issued, and structures that sustained more than 50-percent damage could not be rebuilt. Building codes were implemented and the state banned commercial operations after 1969.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiltsville
I'd build my house on deeply based pylons with the living floor level well above the current highest known storm surge. I'd also build it to withstand 150-200 mph winds with self sustained power and alternate sewage handling. Water might be a problem, maybe research desalination methods.
Note: My husband attended a party back in the late 1970s, early 1980s at the A-Frame house mentioned in the article and visible in the picture from Wikipedia above. A friend of a friend knew the family that owned it and had owned it since it was originally built.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)A sand spit called Dauphin Island has had same kind of problem.
Nature made sand spits moveable over time, the tide comes in at an angle, moving sand, in this case, to the west.
Hurricanes wash away the sand.
so houses, then hurricanes, then homeowners demanding insurance rebuilds the houses, till the next hurricane..
over and over and over. Finally the number of houses get reduced, by not enough tho.
Katrina came thru and made the sand spit into 2 sand spits.
The state would not support new house building.
I haven't seen any recent pics of the place after the 3 hurricanes that hit it this year, but I imagine there's not enuff money to support the few houses that remain, if they remain at all.
LakeArenal
(28,863 posts)Ziggysmom
(3,430 posts)To keep away the spirits of the dead they stepped on during their climb up the financial ladder.
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/527411/14-haunting-facts-about-winchester-mystery-house
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)What an odd compulsion she had.
LeftInTX
(25,695 posts)It's the green upside down triangle behind the barrier island. I've heard the east coast of FL is much less vulnerable to storm surge because the shelf drops off quickly, whereas the gulf coast (all of the gulf coast for that matter) is vulnerable to storm surge because of the huge, shallow continental shelf
Fiendish Thingy
(15,693 posts)SeattleVet
(5,481 posts)Very secure, right on the water, and room for the entire family and all of their friends!
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I could support that as his future location.
msongs
(67,470 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,693 posts)marmar
(77,109 posts)katmondoo
(6,457 posts)Leith
(7,814 posts)Those of us who have never been to Miami, but are fans of Dexter are smiling just a little right now.
keithbvadu2
(36,994 posts)Paladin
(28,281 posts)JudyM
(29,294 posts)You can guess what Im thinking.
NameAlreadyTaken
(982 posts)The house at 3 Indian Creek Road, just to the left of Jarvanka's lot, was sold in 2012 to a Russian billionaire in 2012.
wackadoo wabbit
(1,167 posts)That's a pretty sizable increase for a lot that's going to be underwater in the next decade or so.