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global1

(26,475 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 08:39 PM Dec 2020

Could Trump Be Called To Stand Trial In The Hague?......

What if he pardons himself or is pardoned by Pence?

I think a case can be made that he is responsible for the deaths of 300,000+ Americans and counting.

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Could Trump Be Called To Stand Trial In The Hague?...... (Original Post) global1 Dec 2020 OP
Would that it were so... Blue Owl Dec 2020 #1
Answer: Why have Bush and Cheney never traveled outside US borders? IllinoisBirdWatcher Dec 2020 #2
Bingo! jaxexpat Dec 2020 #4
Doesn't matter Coleman Dec 2020 #14
No. PTWB Dec 2020 #3
No onenote Dec 2020 #5
The Mossad Turbineguy Dec 2020 #6
Scotland has some charges. Arne Dec 2020 #7
A minimum of THREE counts of crimes against humanity. 2naSalit Dec 2020 #8
Biden can't unilaterally have the US join the ICC onenote Dec 2020 #16
Not to mention the other crimes against humanity he's committed. Initech Dec 2020 #9
Yep. Rec, nt. Mc Mike Dec 2020 #17
Presidential pardons are only valid in U.S. federal courts... regnaD kciN Dec 2020 #10
US citizens do not fall under the authority of the ICC Coleman Dec 2020 #11
Did Trump Have Anything To Do With This?.... global1 Dec 2020 #12
No, Pissolini had nothing to do with the US not being a signatory to the ICC, dware Dec 2020 #13
No USALiberal Dec 2020 #15
No, sarisataka Dec 2020 #18

2naSalit

(100,975 posts)
8. A minimum of THREE counts of crimes against humanity.
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 09:04 PM
Dec 2020

We aren't members currently but that could change in January. If any of them try to escape to other countries who are members, it may not matter if we extradite them.

If Biden joins the ICC in Jan, we can send them there ourselves.

onenote

(46,056 posts)
16. Biden can't unilaterally have the US join the ICC
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:59 AM
Dec 2020

Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:14 PM - Edit history (1)

And he wouldn’t even if he could.

Initech

(107,981 posts)
9. Not to mention the other crimes against humanity he's committed.
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 09:17 PM
Dec 2020

Like remember the immigrants being locked in cages and separated from their parents.

regnaD kciN

(27,543 posts)
10. Presidential pardons are only valid in U.S. federal courts...
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 09:18 PM
Dec 2020

...and are not binding on the U.N. or any other international body.

Coleman

(949 posts)
11. US citizens do not fall under the authority of the ICC
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:30 AM
Dec 2020

We are not a signatory of the ICC agreement, so no US citizen can be tried under the ICC. Heck, their investigators are not permitted in the US.

dware

(17,875 posts)
13. No, Pissolini had nothing to do with the US not being a signatory to the ICC,
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:52 AM
Dec 2020

it would have put US Military at risk of being tried by the ICC, and no US president is going to allow that.

In order for the US to become a member of the ICC, it would have to pass with 2/3rds approval of the Senate, and I'm pretty sure it would not reach that threshold in the Senate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court

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