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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy God. Gov. Inslee just tweeted this...
Im in WA, not that it matters. This will hit us all. I swear, I am losing hope...
Link to tweet
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SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Is anyone surprised distribution is chaotic and a cluster fuck?
With trump and trumpers in charge?
Really?
I'm surprised they didn't actually fly all the doses over the Atlantic Ocean and dump them into the water.
They are equal parts incompetent and evil.
So there you go.
Nevilledog
(51,209 posts)iluvtennis
(19,880 posts)PatSeg
(47,624 posts)ancianita
(36,137 posts)More likely is that the promised vaccines are sitting in warehouses waiting for the fed's written shipping directive, and shipments are now up to the fed. So it's not Pfizer, either.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)wanna see what red states are getting before I make up my mind.
lame54
(35,326 posts)pandr32
(11,619 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,217 posts)It was a public relations gambit. There was no tactical plan, no strategy.
Pfizer & Moderna didn't participate in this pretend plan.
The problem is that these two companies, trying to be team players, expected the government to prioritize & coordinate distribution. Good luck with that, given the drones doing that job. They are, daily, stacking up inventory in their warehouses, waiting for directions on where to send them. But, nothing.
Warp Speed was a PR stunt, and nothing more.
Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)katmondoo
(6,457 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,778 posts)wnylib
(21,628 posts)guilty for wishing that covid would kill him when he had it.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)He's enough of a comic book character to think that way.
rsdsharp
(9,208 posts)that our allocation has been cut by 30%.
All part of Trumps vaunted distribution plan.
2naSalit
(86,817 posts)Crimes against humanity. This would be in addition to his kids in cages, leaving the Kurds defenseless and his initial handling of the pandemic.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Smoking gun evidence on how they deliberately did nothing to prevent virus spread, and everything to increase it.
Talk about genocide.
2naSalit
(86,817 posts)I could see it from the beginning that he was doing everything to obstruct control of the pandemic from the start. I had contacted the disaster management director for our county about volunteering to help out. I had worked for him before I retired. I was asked to set up a "mask drive" for citizens to donate masks to the medical facilities until shipments could be secured. And what I found in my endeavor was that feds were directed to confiscate PPE and ventilators as they were being delivered to states who were told to find their own supplies. And the states and others were never reimbursed for these items after struggling to fund the shipments. which were stolen by the feds and resold to other countries or shipped to Florida and other trump states. Montana is, apparently, a trumpstate but he was trying to sink Gov. Bullock at the time.
So, yeah, these fuckers decided to kill off hundreds of thousands if not millions of us for profit.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)The Political story names names.
Justice must be SEEN to be done.
EndlessWire
(6,570 posts)Needs to be repeated often. This is what tRump did to us.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Except I know that you aren't. There is so much abuse and crime, how will it ever be prosecuted? This makes me sick to my stomach.
2naSalit
(86,817 posts)It was one of their tactics to mess up all efforts to stop the spread.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Biological warfare by Dump = Genocide.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Who benefits?
Russia, usually. and the Kissinger RW types who believe there are too many of us and not enuff of them.
lindysalsagal
(20,740 posts)Elderly are often easily fooled.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,256 posts)Officials in multiple states said they were alerted late Wednesday that their second shipments of Pfizer-BioNTechs vaccine next week had been reduced, sparking widespread confusion and spurring the companys CEO to put out a statement saying it had millions more doses than were being distributed.
The changes prompted concern in health departments across the country about whether Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administrations vaccine accelerator, was capable of distributing doses quickly enough to meet the target of delivering first shots to 20 million people by years end. A senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal plans, said the revised estimates were the result of states requesting an expedited timeline for locking in the following weeks shipments from Friday to Tuesday leaving less time for federal authorities to inspect and clear available supply.
A total of 2.9 million doses of the vaccine developed by Pfizer and the German company BioNTech was cleared for shipment this week, and 5.9?million doses of Modernas regimen are poised to go out next week if the vaccine is authorized this week, as expected. That will be on top of additional supply from Pfizer, which Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Wednesday would amount to 2 million doses.
That represents a sharp drop-off from what states were expecting, according to health officials in several states. At least three states received notice from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday informing them of the shortfall, forcing last-minute changes to vaccine distribution plans for next week. Some places were intending to use the second shipment from Pfizer to begin vaccinating residents of long-term care facilities, officials said, creating dilemmas about whether to go ahead with those plans or to finish inoculating health-care providers on the front lines of the intensifying pandemic.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/states-report-confusion-as-feds-alter-vaccine-shipments-and-pfizer-says-it-has-millions-of-unclaimed-doses/ar-BB1c12cb?ocid=DELLDHP&li=BBnb7Kz
Retrograde
(10,162 posts)to coordinate all of this (or has he forgotten all about the Covid taskforce - it was several months ago? I don't think his attention span is much longer than Donnie's)
I'm expecting to be on lockdown through February if not longer.
Arne
(2,092 posts)erronis
(15,364 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,095 posts)Why cant Pfizer just be given the state allocation and let the states order directly from Pfizer?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)There was no formal coordinated federal response to Covid-19 EVER during the entire duration of the pandemic. Why should they have anything to do with distributing the vaccine now?
LiberalArkie
(15,730 posts)crazylikafox
(2,762 posts)Why not? He did it with PPE
lostnfound
(16,191 posts)2naSalit
(86,817 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,813 posts)ancianita
(36,137 posts)lame54
(35,326 posts)mbusby
(823 posts)...warped speed.
Leith
(7,813 posts)but I'm shocked yet again.
Somebody check out what Jarvanka is doing now. They got that $30 million for a plot of land in Florida from somewhere.
Tech
(1,773 posts)dalton99a
(81,626 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Did states use their initial allocations for first shots expecting to get the 2nd allocation in time for the 2nd shot?
How long can the delay for the second shot be?
Can Bidens transition team find out what is really happening and let us know?
dalton99a
(81,626 posts)i.e. so people don't forget and disappear - since protection is only about 50% without the booster
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Someone, might have been the president elect, suggested that the Trump administration hadn't really thought through the logistics of their vaccine distribution program. Oooooh, that made Needy Amin so grrrr! mad, implying that he was in over his head, and didn't really have a plan.
Fast forward to today.
fierywoman
(7,696 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)but read downthread here that Iowa got cut.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Pobeka
(4,999 posts)That's where I have targeted my expectation.
The "mid-summer" 2021 is base on everything going right, and government that can actually, umm, govern. That probably doesn't realistically take hold until mid February 2021.
Everything going right even with good governance is not likely with the complexities of this operation.
iluvtennis
(19,880 posts)et al have been unable to share a plan with team Biden.
Utter incompetence.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Governor Pritzger was fuming about it yesterday. Allotment was cut nearly in half
bucolic_frolic
(43,335 posts)so they can sabotage Joe Biden's efforts in the months ahead.
We need to purge. New leaders is not enough.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)BrightKnight
(3,567 posts)of the vaccine will be distributed after January.
Initech
(100,107 posts)We need to get him out now!! Tomorrow may be too late!
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)rickyhall
(4,889 posts)Ligyron
(7,639 posts)I don't want the Trump cult getting vaccinated so they can experience herd mortality.
keithbvadu2
(36,939 posts)Jared/Donald confiscating it to sell like they did with PPE.
MissB
(15,812 posts)They were expecting 35k doses or something like that and ended up so far with like 6k.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)There really isn't a word for this level of greed and evil.
demmiblue
(36,898 posts)ananda
(28,879 posts)It might be deliberate, I don't know.
There might also be freezer issues.
I hope the Moderna rollout next week
goes better than this!
marble falls
(57,301 posts)... This is no time to panic.
malaise
(269,194 posts)Shaking with anger
EndlessWire
(6,570 posts)role in all of this?
I think the Gov should be completely transparent as to what and why. Otherwise, one WOULD tend to think that these other doses have been swiped. It just doesn't make any sense.
This is a major slowdown. Did they get scared off because of allergic reactions? Just tell us!
roamer65
(36,747 posts)BrightKnight
(3,567 posts)The news called it a Hanukkah miracle.
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Shitstain selling Pfizer vaccines? Hoarding them for bribes?
TN is expected to only get the Moderna vax after this initial Pfizer shipment, which makes me suspect the Moderna vax is not as desirable in some way, & that repukes will profit from the Moderna vax.
When the time comes, I will drive to another state, if need be, for Pfizer's vax, developed independently from shitstain's admin!
IL story here:
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/shipments-of-covid-19-vaccine-to-illinois-expected-to-be-cut-in-half-by-feds-pritzker/2396432/
Jetheels
(991 posts)Marthe48
(17,039 posts)abuse, promise relief, take the relief away. impeached traitor and his henchmen put their own devilish spin on it.
Don't let down your guard. Wash your hands. Mask. Social distance. Protect your loved ones. We haven't been able to reply on this maladministration for any information or service. And we can't depend on them to get anything right at this point.
orleans
(34,078 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,730 posts)January 6, 2021: Joint Session of Congress to Count
Electoral Votes and Declare Election Results Meets
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)Blue Owl
(50,522 posts)It's like this fucking piece of shit has a free pass in his "presidency" to do whatever he wants with no consequences.