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My God. Gov. Inslee just tweeted this... (Original Post) nolabear Dec 2020 OP
Operation Warp We Don't Give a Fuck SoonerPride Dec 2020 #1
+100000 Nevilledog Dec 2020 #10
+100,001. nt iluvtennis Dec 2020 #26
Or sell them to another country for a profit PatSeg Dec 2020 #14
Each vaccine case has a temperature and GPS device so that's not likely. But it's the fed, for sure. ancianita Dec 2020 #28
I'll believe this is deliberate Blue state targeting dixiegrrrrl Dec 2020 #16
Operation Warped Sense Of Morality lame54 Dec 2020 #37
Agreed 100% pandr32 Dec 2020 #48
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2020 #54
There Was No Operation Warp Speed ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #60
Plus 1 Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #61
Trump will kill us all before he leaves katmondoo Dec 2020 #2
+1, I've been talking about him frog nuking a city for 4 years but this is less messy to him uponit7771 Dec 2020 #9
Or die tryin'. He does seem intent to do just that, doesn't he? Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #50
Makes me regret that I felt wnylib Dec 2020 #65
"If he can't have it all, then nobody will" Nexus2 Dec 2020 #77
Here in Iowa, COVID Kim announced yeaterday rsdsharp Dec 2020 #3
I guess we cn add genocide to his list of... 2naSalit Dec 2020 #4
Did you see Politico yesterday? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2020 #20
Yes, I did, thanks. 2naSalit Dec 2020 #24
I want to make sure that those responsible are tried and convicted. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2020 #31
TY for an excellent summary. EndlessWire Dec 2020 #47
Dear God. You are kidding me. MontanaMama Dec 2020 #53
Yup... 2naSalit Dec 2020 #67
I had a feeling they were using the virus as a bioweapon. roamer65 Dec 2020 #55
First question always Cui prodest? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2020 #74
Seriously, this opens the door to illegitimate vaccines and the lindysalsagal Dec 2020 #5
Somebody in the Trump regime has fucked this up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 #6
Hardly news - they went to Jared Retrograde Dec 2020 #23
Which February? Arne Dec 2020 #62
When hell finally freezes over. When there is no March or spring thereafter. erronis Dec 2020 #64
Why are states having to go through a federal intermediary? Lonestarblue Dec 2020 #43
That would be my question. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #66
The U.S. Government bought all of it LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #68
Jared is probably intercepting it and selling it off to the highest bidder crazylikafox Dec 2020 #7
THIS THIS THIS THIS Black market Jared. Nt lostnfound Dec 2020 #12
Exactly. 2naSalit Dec 2020 #25
Probably sold to Jared's Middle East patrons. Midnight Writer Dec 2020 #27
He can't without disabling each vaccine case's temperature and GPS device. ancianita Dec 2020 #33
Harry Lime lame54 Dec 2020 #38
Operation... mbusby Dec 2020 #8
As always, not surprised Leith Dec 2020 #11
Is this why pence is running away? Tech Dec 2020 #13
And 4,000 really means 2,000 because you need a second shot after 3 weeks dalton99a Dec 2020 #15
How important is the timing between the shots? Midnightwalk Dec 2020 #73
Probably not critical. I suspect the 3-week interval is to maximize compliance dalton99a Dec 2020 #75
Was it even a month ago? gratuitous Dec 2020 #17
Because WA is a D-voting state. fierywoman Dec 2020 #18
Yeah, I thought that too... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2020 #22
They want you to give up hope. Don't do it. Stay focused. StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #19
We need to set expectations that masks, etc will be necessary until the end of 2021. Pobeka Dec 2020 #21
trump et al have no coordinated plan for distribution - all this shit is ad hoc. That's why trump iluvtennis Dec 2020 #29
Same thing in Illinois frazzled Dec 2020 #30
Yeah, and the bogus government replacement personnel are in place to hide whatever they want bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #32
Biden and his pandemic team should make a public address about this. ancianita Dec 2020 #34
Blue states don't matter! Nt BootinUp Dec 2020 #35
It is a two way road and most BrightKnight Dec 2020 #78
And people want four more years of this fucking maniac? Initech Dec 2020 #36
trump's sadistic plan: commit to enough for 2 doses, deliver enough for 1st dose only. nt AnotherMother4Peace Dec 2020 #39
Some people still believe Bill Gates put spybots or nanites in every dose. rickyhall Dec 2020 #40
I started that rumor. Ligyron Dec 2020 #71
Jared/Donald confiscating it to sell like they did with PPE. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #41
Oregon had the same issue I think MissB Dec 2020 #42
Anyone else's first thought is the Trumpster's are profiteering? liberalmuse Dec 2020 #44
Michigan is getting a 29% cut. n/t demmiblue Dec 2020 #45
The Trump admin is dropping the ball. ananda Dec 2020 #46
Take deep breathe. We're going to come through this. We keep doing what we've been doing ... marble falls Dec 2020 #49
And this fucking mass murderer still thinks he should be president malaise Dec 2020 #51
What happened to the Military's EndlessWire Dec 2020 #52
How about TX? roamer65 Dec 2020 #56
The local TX hospital was surprised to find additional doses. BrightKnight Dec 2020 #79
The memo was from Dewey, Cheatem & Howe representing D.Trump, M.Pence & J.Kushner. Ford_Prefect Dec 2020 #57
IL's vax delivery being cut 50% SheltieLover Dec 2020 #58
Jared's probably selling the blue states allocation to Russia or who knows. N/t Jetheels Dec 2020 #59
More abusive behavior Marthe48 Dec 2020 #63
is there some trump stockpile going on? wtf? illinois vacs were cut in half too n/t orleans Dec 2020 #69
January 6, 2021: Joint Session of Congress to Count Electoral Votes and Declare Election Results LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #70
Pfizer, send the withheld doses to Canada. We're organized and know what to do with them. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #72
tRump's head should be rolling Blue Owl Dec 2020 #76

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. Operation Warp We Don't Give a Fuck
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:28 PM
Dec 2020

Is anyone surprised distribution is chaotic and a cluster fuck?

With trump and trumpers in charge?

Really?

I'm surprised they didn't actually fly all the doses over the Atlantic Ocean and dump them into the water.

They are equal parts incompetent and evil.

So there you go.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
28. Each vaccine case has a temperature and GPS device so that's not likely. But it's the fed, for sure.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:05 PM
Dec 2020

More likely is that the promised vaccines are sitting in warehouses waiting for the fed's written shipping directive, and shipments are now up to the fed. So it's not Pfizer, either.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
16. I'll believe this is deliberate Blue state targeting
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:48 PM
Dec 2020

wanna see what red states are getting before I make up my mind.

ProfessorGAC

(65,217 posts)
60. There Was No Operation Warp Speed
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:20 PM
Dec 2020

It was a public relations gambit. There was no tactical plan, no strategy.
Pfizer & Moderna didn't participate in this pretend plan.
The problem is that these two companies, trying to be team players, expected the government to prioritize & coordinate distribution. Good luck with that, given the drones doing that job. They are, daily, stacking up inventory in their warehouses, waiting for directions on where to send them. But, nothing.
Warp Speed was a PR stunt, and nothing more.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
77. "If he can't have it all, then nobody will"
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 01:14 AM
Dec 2020

He's enough of a comic book character to think that way.

rsdsharp

(9,208 posts)
3. Here in Iowa, COVID Kim announced yeaterday
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:30 PM
Dec 2020

that our allocation has been cut by 30%.

All part of Trump’s vaunted distribution plan.

2naSalit

(86,817 posts)
4. I guess we cn add genocide to his list of...
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:32 PM
Dec 2020

Crimes against humanity. This would be in addition to his kids in cages, leaving the Kurds defenseless and his initial handling of the pandemic.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
20. Did you see Politico yesterday?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:50 PM
Dec 2020

Smoking gun evidence on how they deliberately did nothing to prevent virus spread, and everything to increase it.
Talk about genocide.

2naSalit

(86,817 posts)
24. Yes, I did, thanks.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:58 PM
Dec 2020

I could see it from the beginning that he was doing everything to obstruct control of the pandemic from the start. I had contacted the disaster management director for our county about volunteering to help out. I had worked for him before I retired. I was asked to set up a "mask drive" for citizens to donate masks to the medical facilities until shipments could be secured. And what I found in my endeavor was that feds were directed to confiscate PPE and ventilators as they were being delivered to states who were told to find their own supplies. And the states and others were never reimbursed for these items after struggling to fund the shipments. which were stolen by the feds and resold to other countries or shipped to Florida and other trump states. Montana is, apparently, a trumpstate but he was trying to sink Gov. Bullock at the time.

So, yeah, these fuckers decided to kill off hundreds of thousands if not millions of us for profit.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
31. I want to make sure that those responsible are tried and convicted.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:08 PM
Dec 2020

The Political story names names.

Justice must be SEEN to be done.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
53. Dear God. You are kidding me.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:58 PM
Dec 2020

Except I know that you aren't. There is so much abuse and crime, how will it ever be prosecuted? This makes me sick to my stomach.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
74. First question always Cui prodest?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:03 PM
Dec 2020

Who benefits?

Russia, usually. and the Kissinger RW types who believe there are too many of us and not enuff of them.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,256 posts)
6. Somebody in the Trump regime has fucked this up
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:36 PM
Dec 2020
States report confusion as feds alter vaccine shipments, and Pfizer says it has ‘millions’ of unclaimed doses

Officials in multiple states said they were alerted late Wednesday that their second shipments of Pfizer-BioNTech’s vaccine next week had been reduced, sparking widespread confusion and spurring the company’s CEO to put out a statement saying it had millions more doses than were being distributed.

The changes prompted concern in health departments across the country about whether Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration’s vaccine accelerator, was capable of distributing doses quickly enough to meet the target of delivering first shots to 20 million people by year’s end. A senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal plans, said the revised estimates were the result of states requesting an expedited timeline for locking in the following week’s shipments — from Friday to Tuesday — leaving less time for federal authorities to inspect and clear available supply.

A total of 2.9 million doses of the vaccine developed by Pfizer and the German company BioNTech was cleared for shipment this week, and 5.9?million doses of Moderna’s regimen are poised to go out next week if the vaccine is authorized this week, as expected. That will be on top of additional supply from Pfizer, which Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Wednesday would amount to 2 million doses.

That represents a sharp drop-off from what states were expecting, according to health officials in several states. At least three states received notice from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday informing them of the shortfall, forcing last-minute changes to vaccine distribution plans for next week. Some places were intending to use the second shipment from Pfizer to begin vaccinating residents of long-term care facilities, officials said, creating dilemmas about whether to go ahead with those plans or to finish inoculating health-care providers on the front lines of the intensifying pandemic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/states-report-confusion-as-feds-alter-vaccine-shipments-and-pfizer-says-it-has-millions-of-unclaimed-doses/ar-BB1c12cb?ocid=DELLDHP&li=BBnb7Kz

Retrograde

(10,162 posts)
23. Hardly news - they went to Jared
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:56 PM
Dec 2020

to coordinate all of this (or has he forgotten all about the Covid taskforce - it was several months ago? I don't think his attention span is much longer than Donnie's)

I'm expecting to be on lockdown through February if not longer.

Lonestarblue

(10,095 posts)
43. Why are states having to go through a federal intermediary?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:35 PM
Dec 2020

Why can’t Pfizer just be given the state allocation and let the states order directly from Pfizer?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
66. That would be my question.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:52 PM
Dec 2020

There was no formal coordinated federal response to Covid-19 EVER during the entire duration of the pandemic. Why should they have anything to do with distributing the vaccine now?

Leith

(7,813 posts)
11. As always, not surprised
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:40 PM
Dec 2020

but I'm shocked yet again.

Somebody check out what Jarvanka is doing now. They got that $30 million for a plot of land in Florida from somewhere.



Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
73. How important is the timing between the shots?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 07:48 PM
Dec 2020

Did states use their initial allocations for first shots expecting to get the 2nd allocation in time for the 2nd shot?

How long can the delay for the second shot be?

Can Biden’s transition team find out what is really happening and let us know?

dalton99a

(81,626 posts)
75. Probably not critical. I suspect the 3-week interval is to maximize compliance
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:33 PM
Dec 2020

i.e. so people don't forget and disappear - since protection is only about 50% without the booster


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Was it even a month ago?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:49 PM
Dec 2020

Someone, might have been the president elect, suggested that the Trump administration hadn't really thought through the logistics of their vaccine distribution program. Oooooh, that made Needy Amin so grrrr! mad, implying that he was in over his head, and didn't really have a plan.

Fast forward to today.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
21. We need to set expectations that masks, etc will be necessary until the end of 2021.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:52 PM
Dec 2020

That's where I have targeted my expectation.

The "mid-summer" 2021 is base on everything going right, and government that can actually, umm, govern. That probably doesn't realistically take hold until mid February 2021.

Everything going right even with good governance is not likely with the complexities of this operation.

iluvtennis

(19,880 posts)
29. trump et al have no coordinated plan for distribution - all this shit is ad hoc. That's why trump
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:06 PM
Dec 2020

et al have been unable to share a plan with team Biden.

Utter incompetence.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
30. Same thing in Illinois
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:08 PM
Dec 2020

Governor Pritzger was fuming about it yesterday. Allotment was cut nearly in half

bucolic_frolic

(43,335 posts)
32. Yeah, and the bogus government replacement personnel are in place to hide whatever they want
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:08 PM
Dec 2020

so they can sabotage Joe Biden's efforts in the months ahead.

We need to purge. New leaders is not enough.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
36. And people want four more years of this fucking maniac?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:20 PM
Dec 2020

We need to get him out now!! Tomorrow may be too late!

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
71. I started that rumor.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:38 PM
Dec 2020

I don't want the Trump cult getting vaccinated so they can experience herd mortality.

keithbvadu2

(36,939 posts)
41. Jared/Donald confiscating it to sell like they did with PPE.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:33 PM
Dec 2020

Jared/Donald confiscating it to sell like they did with PPE.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
42. Oregon had the same issue I think
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:33 PM
Dec 2020

They were expecting 35k doses or something like that and ended up so far with like 6k.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
44. Anyone else's first thought is the Trumpster's are profiteering?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:37 PM
Dec 2020

There really isn't a word for this level of greed and evil.

ananda

(28,879 posts)
46. The Trump admin is dropping the ball.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:38 PM
Dec 2020

It might be deliberate, I don't know.

There might also be freezer issues.

I hope the Moderna rollout next week
goes better than this!

marble falls

(57,301 posts)
49. Take deep breathe. We're going to come through this. We keep doing what we've been doing ...
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:46 PM
Dec 2020

... This is no time to panic.

EndlessWire

(6,570 posts)
52. What happened to the Military's
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:51 PM
Dec 2020

role in all of this?

I think the Gov should be completely transparent as to what and why. Otherwise, one WOULD tend to think that these other doses have been swiped. It just doesn't make any sense.

This is a major slowdown. Did they get scared off because of allergic reactions? Just tell us!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
58. IL's vax delivery being cut 50%
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:07 PM
Dec 2020

Shitstain selling Pfizer vaccines? Hoarding them for bribes?

TN is expected to only get the Moderna vax after this initial Pfizer shipment, which makes me suspect the Moderna vax is not as desirable in some way, & that repukes will profit from the Moderna vax.

When the time comes, I will drive to another state, if need be, for Pfizer's vax, developed independently from shitstain's admin!

IL story here:

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/shipments-of-covid-19-vaccine-to-illinois-expected-to-be-cut-in-half-by-feds-pritzker/2396432/

Marthe48

(17,039 posts)
63. More abusive behavior
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:39 PM
Dec 2020

abuse, promise relief, take the relief away. impeached traitor and his henchmen put their own devilish spin on it.


Don't let down your guard. Wash your hands. Mask. Social distance. Protect your loved ones. We haven't been able to reply on this maladministration for any information or service. And we can't depend on them to get anything right at this point.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
70. January 6, 2021: Joint Session of Congress to Count Electoral Votes and Declare Election Results
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Dec 2020

January 6, 2021: Joint Session of Congress to Count
Electoral Votes and Declare Election Results Meets

Blue Owl

(50,522 posts)
76. tRump's head should be rolling
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 01:08 AM
Dec 2020

It's like this fucking piece of shit has a free pass in his "presidency" to do whatever he wants with no consequences.

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