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riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:00 PM Oct 2012

Bob Woodward believes Obama was distracted last night. Something "big" internationally was happening

Honestly, I think Bob Woodward is some kind of intelligence asset. But that's just my own

Regardless, I've been on the road all day taking a horse to Purdue and listening to talk radio ALL day.... This was mentioned on the Diane Rehm show this morning, that Bob Woodward said that Obama was distracted because of some international event of some import that was pressing.

Watching the debate last night I kept thinking that Obama was distracted. I even put up a post thinking that it was anniversary sex ( ) which is kinda embarrassing but still. He had a "distracted" vibe imho.

And Bob Woodward is hooked into the PTB imho. He "knows" stuff and gets fed insider info I'm sure of it.

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Bob Woodward believes Obama was distracted last night. Something "big" internationally was happening (Original Post) riderinthestorm Oct 2012 OP
Woodward was in Naval intelligence IIRC hifiguy Oct 2012 #1
or Trixml99 Oct 2012 #2
My money is on the .... FarPoint Oct 2012 #7
do you prefer pepperoni? or sausage? nt grasswire Oct 2012 #8
Flowers! malaise Oct 2012 #33
LOL Kurovski Oct 2012 #43
What shall we sing comrade leader? malaise Oct 2012 #50
"Nearer my Rod to Thee." Kurovski Oct 2012 #54
Hahahahahha - that was the first one I thought of as well malaise Oct 2012 #62
Oops. Typo. Kurovski Oct 2012 #67
BHO? 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author luvspeas Oct 2012 #14
Just here to learn Trixml99 Oct 2012 #18
Jump right in.... WCGreen Oct 2012 #27
If you meant did President Obama memorize lies that he could spew out casually like Rmoney did Contrary1 Oct 2012 #30
Wow.. only took 3 posts to get to the good stuff, eh? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #34
Haha Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #37
You mean not prepared to handle the deficient mind of a freeperish moran? Indpndnt Oct 2012 #40
Barack Obama was not prepared for Mitt Romney to choose all new ways to lie CreekDog Oct 2012 #48
BHO? Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #55
He's not an Intelligence Asset. Berlum Oct 2012 #66
Well, he seemed "on" at his rallies today. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #3
Exactly. undeterred Oct 2012 #49
The US took over the Cayman Islands and seized all the tax avoiding US dollars there. FSogol Oct 2012 #4
We wish. n/t Cleita Oct 2012 #6
I like the way you think. aquart Oct 2012 #17
Eh, I like the idea but we could do that WITHOUT sending troops. Zalatix Oct 2012 #57
I wish I hadn't read this post tularetom Oct 2012 #5
... Indpndnt Oct 2012 #42
I miss the old Bob Woodward, before he became liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #60
We are pulling out of Afghanistan? Cleita Oct 2012 #9
No idea. I just immediately thought Obama was distracted last night riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #16
It might be something on Israel and Iran... movonne Oct 2012 #32
Or it could be Turkey shelling Syria... Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #63
I wish!! With it getting worse and worse I would love to hear that!! SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #61
Some folks werre blaming Michelle Obama today... HipChick Oct 2012 #10
I don't think it was Michelle marlakay Oct 2012 #20
I was thinking somethng along similar lines.. ananda Oct 2012 #12
Maybe Obama was thinking about how Politicalboi Oct 2012 #13
The Syria/Turkey hostilities? n/t riverwalker Oct 2012 #15
IF something international distracted him, that would be my guess, too. randome Oct 2012 #38
Syria and Turkey are going at it. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #19
More precisely, Turkey is NATO Inuca Oct 2012 #23
my friend e-mailed me and DesertFlower Oct 2012 #21
I'd heard talk of altitude sickness. Unlike Romney, he wasn't able to acclimate nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #35
he's been to denver before. DesertFlower Oct 2012 #51
Turkey's Parliament just authorized use of force against Syria BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #22
The BBC newscast today was ONLY about the debate AND Turkey's announcement riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #24
That could very well be preoccupying. moondust Oct 2012 #28
I have been thinking exactly the same thing. Unfortunately there's probably 0 coverage of this Turborama Oct 2012 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #25
while mitt was playing president, Obama is living it... spanone Oct 2012 #26
I thought he might be thinking......how demeaning that i have Gin Oct 2012 #29
Oh phooey Obama did just fine, he's president and he Raine Oct 2012 #31
It is a point. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #36
exactly what I said to my hubby yesterday hopeisaplace Oct 2012 #39
Just hours before Syria had killed ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #41
remember how Obama gave the state of the union knowing about OBL? grasswire Oct 2012 #44
Not State of the Union, press corps dinner. nt Barack_America Oct 2012 #45
how did he give a shout out to Leon Panetta at the WHCA dinner? grasswire Oct 2012 #47
OBL was good news and it was over. amandabeech Oct 2012 #59
Obama had been caught with his hand in the cookie jar upi402 Oct 2012 #46
No shit Woodward. NightOwwl Oct 2012 #52
I was just about to post something very similar Nevernose Oct 2012 #56
Here's the interview aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #58
I think this may have been it: AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #64
Thanks for this. Like I said, one of Diane Rehm's panel members brought it up riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #65
Well that is something that I thought could be the case cherish44 Oct 2012 #68
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. Woodward was in Naval intelligence IIRC
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:02 PM
Oct 2012

He has access to deep background information and is not entirely trustworthy. But this sounds more than slightly plausible given the president's demeanor.

Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
54. "Nearer my Rod to Thee."
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:43 PM
Oct 2012

Or...maybe "The Volga Boatmen"

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malaise

(296,101 posts)
62. Hahahahahha - that was the first one I thought of as well
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 05:19 AM
Oct 2012

even if the title was slightly different

Response to Trixml99 (Reply #2)

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
30. If you meant did President Obama memorize lies that he could spew out casually like Rmoney did
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

every time he moved his lips...then no; he wasn't prepared.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
34. Wow.. only took 3 posts to get to the good stuff, eh?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oct 2012

Loving the people arriving here today and saying things like this. Reminds me of someone I saw last night, all sweaty and angry and rude.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
40. You mean not prepared to handle the deficient mind of a freeperish moran?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:58 PM
Oct 2012

Absolutely. Nobody is prepared for that depth of ignorance. Good catch!

And look at you knowing what the President's middle initial is! Strut your stuff.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
48. Barack Obama was not prepared for Mitt Romney to choose all new ways to lie
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:25 PM
Oct 2012

about all his positions.

but then, who could be?

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
49. Exactly.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:25 PM
Oct 2012

He's not as comfortable debating as he is campaigning. He'll be better next time.

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
4. The US took over the Cayman Islands and seized all the tax avoiding US dollars there.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

The foreign entities will be allowed to leave and the US citizens involved in tax avoidance schemes will have their cash seized or be tried for treason. The deficit is now at zero.

Edited to add:

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
57. Eh, I like the idea but we could do that WITHOUT sending troops.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:27 PM
Oct 2012

We could PROBABLY do it electronically.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
5. I wish I hadn't read this post
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:07 PM
Oct 2012

Because I was thinking the same thing and I'd hate to imagine I ever agreed with that pompous ass Woodward about anything.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
16. No idea. I just immediately thought Obama was distracted last night
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:12 PM
Oct 2012

Really. That was my impression.

And hearing this theory on the Diane Rehm show just reinforced it. I guess Bob Woodward was on one of the early am talk shows and said this. I have no link but honestly, Woodward is hooked into the PTB.

It makes sense.

I really wish it were we were pulling out of Afghanistan!! Please! Please!!!

Edited to clarify a wino typo after a helluva day...

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
61. I wish!! With it getting worse and worse I would love to hear that!!
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:23 AM
Oct 2012

How would the right wing react? They've been going on and on saying that Obama owns this war and they've been campaigning for him to bring the troops home RIGHT NOW!! Call him every day! What would they do if he announced we won't take one more attack on an American from inside the ranks and they're coming home. Would they vote for him then? Ha Ha!!

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
10. Some folks werre blaming Michelle Obama today...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:09 PM
Oct 2012

but it did look like something 'Big' looming him was bothering him

marlakay

(13,282 posts)
20. I don't think it was Michelle
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:14 PM
Oct 2012

If they had a fight or something serious she wouldn't have been so happy looking at the debate. Neither she nor Obama are good at hiding emotions which is what happened last night.

ananda

(35,144 posts)
12. I was thinking somethng along similar lines..
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:10 PM
Oct 2012

.. that Obama has been so busy with foreign affairs that maybe
he didn't have time to prepare as much as he might have otherwise,
along with being exhausted.

Oh, and this is an age-old Rovian type strategey also. They did
that to Ann Richards too, kept her so busy in Austin that she
couldn't get out and campaign the way Bush did.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
13. Maybe Obama was thinking about how
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:11 PM
Oct 2012

He and Michelle were going to spend their anniversary night.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
19. Syria and Turkey are going at it.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:14 PM
Oct 2012

Turkey is one of our allies. They just took military action against Syria. I suspect that had a lot to do with it. I am sure the President was both distracted and tired. He does have one of the most difficult jobs in the world, after all. Mitt the Twit, on the other hand, does not work, and has no worries. Of course he looks more refreshed and energetic.


The Syria -Turkey conflict: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19830928

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
23. More precisely, Turkey is NATO
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

If they officially consider themselves attacked (hopefully NOT), it's as if the UK or France were attacked.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
21. my friend e-mailed me and
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:15 PM
Oct 2012

said she thought he looked like he might be sick. but he seems fine today.

BumRushDaShow

(169,750 posts)
22. Turkey's Parliament just authorized use of force against Syria
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

after Syria conducted cross-border attacks on Turkish civilians. Turkey is part of NATO, as is the U.S.

An attack on Turkey = an attack on NATO = an attack on the U.S. and other NATO signatories.

Put 2 + 2 together and consider what is more important? A walking motor-mouth lie machine or having to diffuse a potential mess that could drag the U.S. into some sort of confrontation.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
24. The BBC newscast today was ONLY about the debate AND Turkey's announcement
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

The juxtaposition couldn't have been clearer, nor do I think the BBC staff are idiots.

That thought crossed my mind, precisely.

moondust

(21,286 posts)
28. That could very well be preoccupying.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

And the President would not be at liberty to say anything about it in front of 67 million viewers unless the moderator were to bring it up for some reason and even then he couldn't say much.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
53. I have been thinking exactly the same thing. Unfortunately there's probably 0 coverage of this
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:33 PM
Oct 2012

...in the US, so the general public will be unaware there's a huge conflict brewing that the US could well be drawn into.

As some in this thread have wisely said (paraphrase), the President had to interrupt his extremely difficult day to day job of being CIC (amongst other tasks) to put up with an insane Republican playing make believe president.

Response to riderinthestorm (Original post)

Gin

(7,212 posts)
29. I thought he might be thinking......how demeaning that i have
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:31 PM
Oct 2012

To be on stage with this stooge.........

Raine

(31,177 posts)
31. Oh phooey Obama did just fine, he's president and he
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

he was presidential. Rmoney was a lying bully and I'm sick to death of people acting like he won because he lied to of millions of people. Those lies will come back and bite him in the ass.

hopeisaplace

(1,682 posts)
39. exactly what I said to my hubby yesterday
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:56 PM
Oct 2012

yep that was also a thought that crossed my mind ... I said to my husband that the Prez
appears as though he "knows something that Romney and the rest of us don't at this point".
EXACTLY the feeling I got.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
41. Just hours before Syria had killed
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:59 PM
Oct 2012

5 people in Turkey and Turkey was talking about retaliating. I've been saying that all afternoon.

I think the President was a little preoccupied and had probably been on the phone all afternoon.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
44. remember how Obama gave the state of the union knowing about OBL?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:17 PM
Oct 2012

He knew during that speech that OBL was dead. He was dealing with all that, and none of us knew.

We have to remind the media that he has a few other things on his mind, I guess.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
47. how did he give a shout out to Leon Panetta at the WHCA dinner?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:23 PM
Oct 2012

Oh wait. It was the rescue in Somali.
 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
59. OBL was good news and it was over.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

Someone in Syria shooting at mortar at a town in Turkey and killing 2 women and 3 children is not good news, and there were no indications then that it was over.

Turkey's parliament approved a resolution giving authority to the president, Erdogan, to attack Syria if attacked itself. Then Turkey called a late night emergency meeting of the NATO commissioners in Brussels.

I thought that the President looked tired and distracted. Others thought that he was having difficulty with the altitude or had contracted some sort of virus.

The possibility of Turkey and Syria going at it and Turkey bringing in NATO, I think, is pretty distracting.

Today, it looks a little better. The Russians sat on Assad to express sympathies with the families, conduct an investigation and promise not to do it again.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
46. Obama had been caught with his hand in the cookie jar
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:20 PM
Oct 2012

That's the sense I got.

Looked like he was "manning up" and going through with it, not going after it.

 

NightOwwl

(5,453 posts)
52. No shit Woodward.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:17 PM
Oct 2012

Wouldn't you be distracted if the person you were expecting to debate turned out to be an empty shell filled with nothing but lies upon lies upon lies?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
56. I was just about to post something very similar
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:25 PM
Oct 2012

It was literally impossible for Obama to have won that debate. In order to win, he would have needed to be debating an actual human being -- not some intangible ghost.

(Edited b/c of stupid autocorrect)

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
58. Here's the interview
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:48 PM
Oct 2012

I don't think it sounds like Woodward is saying he knows what it is and can't divulge it (such as intervention by Turkey in Syria, or a preemptive strike against Iran). He's just engaging in speculation.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
65. Thanks for this. Like I said, one of Diane Rehm's panel members brought it up
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:00 AM
Oct 2012

Said they'd heard Woodward that morning.

So I was relaying it (literally!) secondhand....

Anyway, that this was Woodward's speculation doesn't change it for me - I really felt that Obama seemed distracted during the debate. My mind was on the Turkey/Syria situation as well while I was watching the debate so maybe that's why I saw Obama that way.


Thanks for the link! Always good to see the source first hand.

cherish44

(2,566 posts)
68. Well that is something that I thought could be the case
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:46 AM
Oct 2012

Obama does have a job..., what does Mitt have to do other than apply his Crest White Strips and get a spray tan?

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