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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:24 PM Dec 2020

enormous protest going on at Stanford Hospital carried out by staff, who are enraged by the decisio


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There is an enormous protest going on at Stanford
Hospital carried out by staff, who are enraged by the decision by hospital execs to give themselves the covid vaccine and other powerful administrators who are AT HOME before giving it to nurses and physicians

who are a contact with patients. This is all you need to know about American healthcare: billionaires get care first, then hospital CEO and other millionaires while those who sacrifice their lives everyday are abandoned. This is America.
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enormous protest going on at Stanford Hospital carried out by staff, who are enraged by the decisio (Original Post) soothsayer Dec 2020 OP
They should inject the CEO class with a placebo SoonerPride Dec 2020 #1
I'm with ya on the bleach. Native Dec 2020 #2
Bleach 👍 Tribetime Dec 2020 #19
Excellent idea Rebl2 Dec 2020 #54
That's pretty ballsy, they don't even bother to hide procon Dec 2020 #3
Why should they? OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #22
Fuck, I so agree Ahpook Dec 2020 #56
I posted a thread yesterday about my partner's hospital doing the same thing and people here ... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2020 #44
I read your piece and was likewise bemused by those procon Dec 2020 #55
Eat the rich instead of coddling them. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #4
Eat the rich to feed the poor until there are no rich no more. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2020 #28
That is the way it should be. I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2020 #64
Eat the rich if you can, without puking. soldierant Dec 2020 #32
No thanks OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #76
Caveat Emptor smb Dec 2020 #85
If Lori Loughlin and her husband are in prison and are getting the vaccine, I'd like to suggest that EarnestPutz Dec 2020 #5
How about each executive who gets the vaccine has to relieve a doctor or nurse who hasn't William Seger Dec 2020 #35
+1000 wnylib Dec 2020 #45
Or clean hospital rooms after someone dies of covid. mjvpi Dec 2020 #82
Yeah, that would be good for those unqualified for anything else William Seger Dec 2020 #83
I'd hate to be the patient though. Doremus Dec 2020 #89
Not in the least surprised. cwydro Dec 2020 #6
Did anyone seriously believe it would be otherwise? sop Dec 2020 #7
I sure didn't. cwydro Dec 2020 #15
The hospital staff obviously did.. whathehell Dec 2020 #25
Nope. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2020 #29
Good for them. Call these assholes out. blueinredohio Dec 2020 #8
What is it lately? smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #9
Hate to break it to you smirky... OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #24
This moment in time we should be starkly telling the public what is happening because it's so clear. JudyM Dec 2020 #33
i keep trying to tell my conservative epal this is a guillotine issue. no, its not the rich's money. pansypoo53219 Dec 2020 #41
Roaches of the healthcare industry. Those assholes sit at the top MerryBlooms Dec 2020 #10
+1. Leeches and roaches dalton99a Dec 2020 #16
As long as we allow healthcare to be a "for profit industry " questionseverything Dec 2020 #51
I am fucking enraged too. spanone Dec 2020 #11
Contrast this with the hospital's housekeeping employees. lpbk2713 Dec 2020 #12
Single payer would eliminate this. 2naSalit Dec 2020 #13
Ethics should already have that covered. tirebiter Dec 2020 #17
I'm pro Single payer but I don't see how it would prevent administrators from doing this. pnwmom Dec 2020 #18
No it wouldn't dansolo Dec 2020 #75
Those that did not believe in the virus get the vaccine? sheshe2 Dec 2020 #14
WTF!! AmyStrange Dec 2020 #20
Let them wear mask!!! AmyStrange Dec 2020 #21
Article from the SF Chronicle about this people Dec 2020 #23
The fucking liars are pretending it was all a mistake. Mariana Dec 2020 #58
Trickle Down Health. How's that working out for you? rgbecker Dec 2020 #26
This is typical of SANTA BARBARA's elite attitudes. Stanford's administrators Hortensis Dec 2020 #27
Since Stanford and Santa Barbara are roughly 300 miles apart by the shortest soldierant Dec 2020 #38
Maybe they fly in. 58Sunliner Dec 2020 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Dec 2020 #69
Sorry. Middle of the night brain fart conflation. Hortensis Dec 2020 #78
Leaders in way too many spheres spheres are corrupt entitled scumbags malaise Dec 2020 #30
I used to compare them to wnylib Dec 2020 #46
Well put malaise Dec 2020 #47
im beginning to think the time to rise up is nearing rdking647 Dec 2020 #31
It's coming malaise Dec 2020 #48
One percenters will jump the line everywhere. kairos12 Dec 2020 #34
what does the ceo class do except get more and more money? i could never figure that one out . AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #36
Damn those administrators. I'm so mad I could chew nails & spit carpet tacks! tblue37 Dec 2020 #37
Nurses no testing - priorities keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #39
Jeezus soothsayer Dec 2020 #52
Oligarchy. moondust Dec 2020 #40
should have gone to the persons who clean the e.r first rather than these yahoos. AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #42
Well, what can we possibly expect when the traits required for PatrickforO Dec 2020 #43
Raise taxes on the damn billionaires zentrum Dec 2020 #49
Good for them! . . . sometimes you wonder how people's heads . . . OneBlueSky Dec 2020 #50
This is fucking bullshit. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #53
This is horrendous. NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #57
Welcome to healthcare in America. BigDemVoter Dec 2020 #59
Sick and not surprising. The hospital administration is always looking to squeeze more out of them. 58Sunliner Dec 2020 #61
Worse: the billionaires (plus Trump and his swamp creatures) get REGENERON sandensea Dec 2020 #62
Fuck the rich I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2020 #63
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Dec 2020 #65
Rt TY! WTF.. That makes NO GD Sense! Cha Dec 2020 #66
don't forget, the house and senate got theirs too..... eom essaynnc Dec 2020 #67
And those people are not six feet apart Sympthsical Dec 2020 #68
Low lifes Meowmee Dec 2020 #70
K&R. ck4829 Dec 2020 #71
elitism onetexan Dec 2020 #72
Well, Stanford is one of the most conservative schools in America... think Hoover Institution etc... Rollo Dec 2020 #73
This would be a great time to introduce a little "tyranny of justice" or at least....... jaxexpat Dec 2020 #74
I thought this whole vaccination program got off to a great start, symbolically. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #77
The biggest risk takers and essential workers should never be anything but FIRST in this pandemic. ancianita Dec 2020 #79
Anyone who is surprised, raise their hand. malthaussen Dec 2020 #80
K&R, big-time. (nt) Paladin Dec 2020 #81
Unbelievable! They have neither shame nor decency. Nitram Dec 2020 #84
What the everloving fuck is this??? Pacifist Patriot Dec 2020 #86
The word, "Stanford" has achieved a new meaning:.less than sh*t..apologies to s**t everywhere.. Stuart G Dec 2020 #87
Looks like Stanford is backing down (at least a bit) DBoon Dec 2020 #88

procon

(15,805 posts)
3. That's pretty ballsy, they don't even bother to hide
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:29 PM
Dec 2020

the privileged entitlement their wealth buys them.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
22. Why should they?
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:59 PM
Dec 2020

What have we done in the last few decades but let them? Have we done anything (besides talk) to stop them? What has that effort accomplished? This is yet another topic that gets the same treatment as tomacco got from Homer Simpson.

Homer: (staring at the last tomacco plant he created) But how can I stop this?

Lisa: Destroy that plant!

Homer: But Lisa, I am just one person, what can one person do about any of this?

Lisa: It's right there in front of you, Dad! Destroy it!

Homer: But this is so much bigger than me. What can a single person...(you get the idea)

We know what has to be done. It won't be. Too many people would have to give up certain levels of modern convenience and modern life. (The rich cannot make money if you don't give it to them). Now, this shouldn't be a big deal, considering what the outcome would be, but some people just cannot let go of their convenience. Even to stop the destruction of the entire country in the name of greed.

Ahpook

(2,777 posts)
56. Fuck, I so agree
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 11:00 PM
Dec 2020

All we hear from anyone or anybody is what we should be doing. Listened to this shit for 20 years.

I'm sure it has been this way for ages in this country? Pubs are playing a nasty game, and as usual not a fucking word from anyone.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
44. I posted a thread yesterday about my partner's hospital doing the same thing and people here ...
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:58 PM
Dec 2020

.... we’re defending it. Something about how admins are in the trenches...

The fuck they are.

Maybe pre pandemic they might stick their beaks in the patient areas. They are not now. The CFO and VP Of Finance ain’t hanging around on the Covid floor

procon

(15,805 posts)
55. I read your piece and was likewise bemused by those
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:47 PM
Dec 2020

who think desk bound admins are synonymous with front line medical staff who are ass deep in messy critical care. They watch too many TV doctor shows. Most admins I knew were essentially retired from medicine and hadn't touched a patient in years, if not decades.

I was an RN for 30 something years and the suits would never come into pt care areas let alone actually get hands on. And you wouldn't want them to either.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
64. That is the way it should be.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:24 AM
Dec 2020

We can't afford these rich narcissistic pigs.
Round them up and drop them in the ocean
with just thier underwear hundreds of miles away from any land. What your money isn't saving you? well now you know how the poor and homeless feel like. And all your money is going to help people with little or no money.. now die!

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
32. Eat the rich if you can, without puking.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:24 PM
Dec 2020

That would just be a waste of perfectly good stomach acid.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
76. No thanks
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 11:13 AM
Dec 2020

I have had to choke down enough cheap, greasy, mostly rotten flesh masquerading as expensive prime cuts. Time to toss out the tray and make something more palatable.

smb

(3,598 posts)
85. Caveat Emptor
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 03:50 PM
Dec 2020
I have had to choke down enough cheap, greasy, mostly rotten flesh masquerading as expensive prime cuts.


Trump steaks, I assume...?

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
5. If Lori Loughlin and her husband are in prison and are getting the vaccine, I'd like to suggest that
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:31 PM
Dec 2020

....these hospital executives get thrown into prison right after getting their shots. Seems only fair, no?

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
82. Or clean hospital rooms after someone dies of covid.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:18 PM
Dec 2020

Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2020, 03:06 PM - Edit history (2)

Those people are truly essential workers.

Doremus

(7,273 posts)
89. I'd hate to be the patient though.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 06:56 PM
Dec 2020

Better is the idea down thread that they should have to take over for the cleaning crew, imo.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. Not in the least surprised.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:31 PM
Dec 2020

And I’m quite sure that professional athletes and the Tom Cruises of the world are getting it too.

I predicted that money would determine who gets it first. Disgusting.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. I sure didn't.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:46 PM
Dec 2020

And even as we type away on our useless keyboards, I feel certain that pro athletes and Hollywood are all getting vaccinated.

Amazing anyone would think any differently.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. What is it lately?
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:34 PM
Dec 2020

These millionaires and billionaires (mostly Republicans) aren't even trying to hide their crimes and egregious flauting of social norms and morality. We are pretty much almost in French Revolution territory here, yet we are putting up with this shit and have been for a long time.

It's because they are never held accountable! Not by the government, not by the law and not by us. What can be done about this? It is only going to continue to get worse. The rich take and take and take from society - ALL THE REST OF US - and they prosper and benefit at our expense. They never face harsh penalties even for the worst crimes, and they laugh in our faces when we tell them they are going to pay for what they have done.

I am so damn sick of it!

Time to bring this back:

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
24. Hate to break it to you smirky...
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:02 PM
Dec 2020

But the overblown dick waving and our general acceptance (if not downright worship) of it IS the societal norm these days.

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
33. This moment in time we should be starkly telling the public what is happening because it's so clear.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:31 PM
Dec 2020

pansypoo53219

(23,034 posts)
41. i keep trying to tell my conservative epal this is a guillotine issue. no, its not the rich's money.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:46 PM
Dec 2020

yes, more taxes, it investment in civilization. how do you spend billions? fuck the rich. or well, shake them for our trickle.

kill zombie reagan. grover norquist can go to the guillotine 1st.

MerryBlooms

(12,248 posts)
10. Roaches of the healthcare industry. Those assholes sit at the top
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:35 PM
Dec 2020

making decisions they know will kill their staff, while their asses sit at home in their mansions all safe and surrounded by help that is also risking their lives every day. I despise these monsters with every fiber of my being. No torches and screamers at their mansions.

questionseverything

(11,840 posts)
51. As long as we allow healthcare to be a "for profit industry "
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:32 PM
Dec 2020

This is what we will get

Some things are too important for capitalism, healthcare is one of those things

lpbk2713

(43,273 posts)
12. Contrast this with the hospital's housekeeping employees.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:39 PM
Dec 2020


Not only are they at the bottom end of the wage scale but they are the ones who clean up the hazmat.

tirebiter

(2,699 posts)
17. Ethics should already have that covered.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:52 PM
Dec 2020

Nor would Stanford necessarily be a part of any single payer plan.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
18. I'm pro Single payer but I don't see how it would prevent administrators from doing this.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:53 PM
Dec 2020

Medicare is Single payer and Stanford accepts Medicare. And even under 100% single payer, there would still be some administrators in each hospital.

dansolo

(5,387 posts)
75. No it wouldn't
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 08:52 AM
Dec 2020

Single payer (or M4A) will do absolutely nothing to curtail the behavior of these greedy fucks. None of those plans will be possible as long as healthcare is for-profit. Hospitals are the worst. I never understood why all the focus is on the insurance companies, when it is the hospitals that are mostly responsible for the spiraling healthcare costs.

sheshe2

(97,627 posts)
14. Those that did not believe in the virus get the vaccine?
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:42 PM
Dec 2020

Those on the front lines can eat it!

FUCK YOU!

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
58. The fucking liars are pretending it was all a mistake.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 11:28 PM
Dec 2020
"We take complete responsibility for the errors in the execution of our vaccine distribution plan. Our intent was to develop an ethical and equitable process for distribution of the vaccine...

BULL
SHIT

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. This is typical of SANTA BARBARA's elite attitudes. Stanford's administrators
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:15 PM
Dec 2020

have often been caught out in blatant corruption but it goes on. Santa Barbara's public schools are worse than those of working-class Ventura because the children of well-to-do parents attend private schools. Public schools are for service workers. And on and on.

There's this striking dissonance between the beauty of the wealthy city on the coast and this ugly underside of the culture they have such a conceit over.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
38. Since Stanford and Santa Barbara are roughly 300 miles apart by the shortest
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:04 PM
Dec 2020

route (Hwy 101), I don't see the connection.

Response to Hortensis (Reply #27)

wnylib

(26,014 posts)
46. I used to compare them to
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:06 PM
Dec 2020

robber barons, but they are more like the manor lords and nobility of the Middle Ages versus the peasants and serfs.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
31. im beginning to think the time to rise up is nearing
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:24 PM
Dec 2020

just like france in 1789 it might be time to force change.
start by seizing the property of the super wealthy. how many of the homeless could live on the estates of some of the super wealthy.
stop paying taxes
stop paying mortgages and rent
they have people convinced they are helpless against them. they're very mistaken.
the people have teh power to bring them to their knees quickly


AllaN01Bear

(29,493 posts)
36. what does the ceo class do except get more and more money? i could never figure that one out .
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:58 PM
Dec 2020

the lowest janitor should have gotten it first rather than these so and sos.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
39. Nurses no testing - priorities
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:13 PM
Dec 2020

Nurses no testing - priorities




Registered nurses gathered in Los Angeles to protest the fact that UCLA's athletic department conducted 1,248 tests in a single week while health-care workers at UCLA hospitals were denied testing.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/as-thousands-of-athletes-get-coronavirus-tests-nurses-wonder-what-about-us/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_tw_m&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1606499836

moondust

(21,286 posts)
40. Oligarchy.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:13 PM
Dec 2020

Isn't this a classic example of why the one percent and other "economic royalists" oppose universal health care and other examples of "equality"? When money is God and you have a lot of it you can just buy whatever you want without having to wait.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
43. Well, what can we possibly expect when the traits required for
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:49 PM
Dec 2020

success as a CEO are the traits of a sociopath? According to Business Insider, around 20% of CEOs are sociopaths, while around 23% of felons incarcerated in penitenturies share those same traits.

Some capitalist utopia, eh?

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
49. Raise taxes on the damn billionaires
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:19 PM
Dec 2020

……and Wall Street trades and create Medicare for all.

OneBlueSky

(18,536 posts)
50. Good for them! . . . sometimes you wonder how people's heads . . .
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:20 PM
Dec 2020

got so far up their asses . . . not the demonstrators, of course . . . the decision-makers who determine who gets the vaccine and who doesn't . . . truly, it boggles the mind . . .

BigDemVoter

(4,700 posts)
59. Welcome to healthcare in America.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 11:32 PM
Dec 2020

And I can guaran-fucking-tee that this is as widespread as hell. . . Most facilities will be a lot more sneaky than Stanford and will most certainly tell spurious tales of how 'generous' they are with their employees they've managed to stiff throughout the pandemic vis-a-vis PPE and other things staff needed and didn't get.

58Sunliner

(6,330 posts)
61. Sick and not surprising. The hospital administration is always looking to squeeze more out of them.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 11:44 PM
Dec 2020

This time it's a life-saving vaccine. Ugly, greedy, bastards.

sandensea

(23,343 posts)
62. Worse: the billionaires (plus Trump and his swamp creatures) get REGENERON
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:01 AM
Dec 2020

Supercharges the immune system, such that anyone - even fat, diabetic bastards like Cheeto and Crisco - can come out feeling even better than before.

The rest of us? Well, there's always prayer.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
63. Fuck the rich
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:18 AM
Dec 2020

Biden needs to tax them out of power. Take away that hoarded money . Then tell them fuck thier feelings.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
68. And those people are not six feet apart
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:14 AM
Dec 2020

C'mon, guys . . .

Ditto their sentiments on the executives getting the vaccine. My partner is a hospital managerial type who is working from home. He's not getting it.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
73. Well, Stanford is one of the most conservative schools in America... think Hoover Institution etc...
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 05:30 AM
Dec 2020

I get frequent mailings from Stanford Health Care trying to get me to switch my Medicare B/D coverage to them... nope... especially not after this fiasco...



 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
74. This would be a great time to introduce a little "tyranny of justice" or at least.......
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 08:10 AM
Dec 2020

a little socio-economic "tough love".

When they call me a socialist in order to demonize me and thus isolate me from my brethren then they have already lost.

.....on another note, it may well be the season to acknowledge that the biggest beneficiaries to American style health care are architectural firms and tech-supply companies. The building of monoliths to house the latest patented technology is affordable only by over-pricing care and under-compensating staff. Oh, and by maintaining a steady flow of illness.

That couldn't possibly be true. Could it? What is more profound: the "love thy neighbor" ethic or the law of supply and demand? Next thing you know there'll be "war for profit".

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
77. I thought this whole vaccination program got off to a great start, symbolically.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 11:49 AM
Dec 2020

The first treatment went to an African-American woman, and I didn't even care if someone in the group that decides these things was being pandering and cynical. At least it was happening.

Part of my reaction was "Boy oh boy, is THIS going to piss some people off! Good!!! What can they do about it, but wait their turn?"

Nope. This is what some of them can do. FML

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
79. The biggest risk takers and essential workers should never be anything but FIRST in this pandemic.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:33 PM
Dec 2020

Millionaires and billionaires are among the intentional murderers of others.

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
80. Anyone who is surprised, raise their hand.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:56 PM
Dec 2020

"Essential workers" are always the ones at the top. Funny how that works.

-- Mal

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
87. The word, "Stanford" has achieved a new meaning:.less than sh*t..apologies to s**t everywhere..
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 05:10 PM
Dec 2020

Stanford University may never recover from this incredible story.

DBoon

(24,983 posts)
88. Looks like Stanford is backing down (at least a bit)
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 06:50 PM
Dec 2020

Latest updates from Ars Technica:


Update, 10:00pm EST: Stanford Medicine shared the following statement with Ars: "We take complete responsibility for the errors in the execution of our vaccine distribution plan. Our intent was to develop an ethical and equitable process for distribution of the vaccine. We apologize to our entire community, including our residents, fellows, and other frontline care providers, who have performed heroically during our pandemic response. We are immediately revising our plan to better sequence the distribution of the vaccine."

Update, 7:15pm EST: According to the Washington Post, Stanford has apologized and announced that it would re-prioritize vaccine distributions immediately in order to move more of its front-line staff into the first wave of vaccinations.


https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/12/stanford-hospital-erupts-in-protest-after-vaccine-plan-leaves-out-residents/

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