Looks like the Pugs inserted a poison pill in stimulus package and are planning to kill it...

[Demsrule86]

How could they do such a terribly cruel thing. We are looking a massive starvation and homelessness starting on 12/26.

[Mossfern]

1. Can you share a link

of give a bit more information about your OP please?

[Demsrule86]

5. Listening to MSNBC and CNN and they said the fed aspect put in by Toomey is a huge obstacle.

Nancy said a provision by Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., that would curb emergency Federal Reserve powers was the biggest hurdle to a sealing a deal. "That has to be resolved. And then everything will fall into place," Nancy said. "It's a very significant difference." Update on MSNBC now...Toomey still the issue McConnell stands behind it...this position holding up any deal.

Did find link...

"...Toomey's provision, a feature of GOP bills that failed to advance this fall would close down more than $400 billion in potential Fed lending powers established under a legislation in March. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is shutting down the programs at the end of December, but Toomey's language goes further, by barring the Fed from restarting the lending next year.

"As we navigate through an unprecedented economic crisis, it is in the interests of the American people to maintain the Fed's ability to respond quickly and forcefully," said Brian Deese, an economic adviser to Biden. "Undermining that authority could mean less lending to Main Street businesses, higher unemployment and greater economic pain across the nation...

https://abc7chicago.com/did-congress-pass-the-stimulus-bill-today-second-package-600-check-update-covid-relief/8894618/

[LizBeth]

8. Can't let them tie their hands like this. It cannot be done, should not even be allowed and here we

sit. Yes. I am wondering what can be done here. Craziness.

[Demsrule86]

11. I think the Dems are going to compromise on this...big trouble...but we can't have people

starving and homeless...however, this would aid McConnell's attempt to destroy the economy during Biden's term. We are like the real Mom in the bible where the fake Mom told Solomon sure cut the baby in half...and the real Mom said no...give the baby to her...we give a damn and the pugs don't care about anyone.

[LizBeth]

15. I think that they will have to have a way, if they do compromise, because can't just blanket that

and say.... future powerless. Has to be wiggle. I don't know, I do not know enough about it but if it gets in the way, will just be one more thing educating myself to understand.

[Irish_Dem]

2. If it hurts Biden, they are perfectly willing to kill, starve every last American.

They see us as mere collateral damage in their quest for power and wealth.

[Demsrule86]

12. That's it...discussing now on MSNBC.

[denbot]

3. Details, or at least a vague allusion..?

[Skittles]

4. and what's with PUGS

when I think of pugs I think of ridiculously cute little dogs

[Demsrule86]

14. Short for Repugnant... I don't remember where or why I came up with it.

[Skittles]

16. ahhhh

I stick with REPUKES because they always make me feel sick.

[procon]

22. I was of the same thought, expecting to see puppers.

Never heard that term applied to Republicans. Hope it's not trending.

[Demsrule86]

26. I honestly don't remember...wasn't there a meme where Republican was between Reptile

Repugnant in the dictionary...some years ago... could be that.

[Demsrule86]

13. I added details and it is being discussed on MSNBC now.

[Demsrule86]

19. Here.

Listening to MSNBC and CNN and they said the fed aspect put in by Toomey is a huge obstacle.

Nancy said a provision by Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., that would curb emergency Federal Reserve powers was the biggest hurdle to a sealing a deal. "That has to be resolved. And then everything will fall into place," Nancy said. "It's a very significant difference." Update on MSNBC now...Toomey still the issue McConnell stands behind it...this position holding up any deal.

Did find link...

"...Toomey's provision, a feature of GOP bills that failed to advance this fall would close down more than $400 billion in potential Fed lending powers established under a legislation in March. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is shutting down the programs at the end of December, but Toomey's language goes further, by barring the Fed from restarting the lending next year.

"As we navigate through an unprecedented economic crisis, it is in the interests of the American people to maintain the Fed's ability to respond quickly and forcefully," said Brian Deese, an economic adviser to Biden. "Undermining that authority could mean less lending to Main Street businesses, higher unemployment and greater economic pain across the nation...

https://abc7chicago.com/did-congress-pass-the-stimulus-bill-today-second-package-600-check-update-covid-relief/8894618/

[LizBeth]

6. Talking about controlling what is allowed in future? They did.

[DrToast]

7. Would't want to tell us what you're talking about or anything.

[Demsrule86]

18. It is in the thread...

" Listening to MSNBC and CNN and they said the fed aspect put in by Toomey is a huge obstacle.

Nancy said a provision by Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., that would curb emergency Federal Reserve powers was the biggest hurdle to a sealing a deal. "That has to be resolved. And then everything will fall into place," Nancy said. "It's a very significant difference." Update on MSNBC now...Toomey still the issue McConnell stands behind it...this position holding up any deal.

Did find link...

"...Toomey's provision, a feature of GOP bills that failed to advance this fall would close down more than $400 billion in potential Fed lending powers established under a legislation in March. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is shutting down the programs at the end of December, but Toomey's language goes further, by barring the Fed from restarting the lending next year.

"As we navigate through an unprecedented economic crisis, it is in the interests of the American people to maintain the Fed's ability to respond quickly and forcefully," said Brian Deese, an economic adviser to Biden. "Undermining that authority could mean less lending to Main Street businesses, higher unemployment and greater economic pain across the nation..."

https://abc7chicago.com/did-congress-pass-the-stimulus-bill-today-second-package-600-check-update-covid-relief/8894618/

[Budi]

9. Well of course they did. Isn't this one of the major points of destroying a democracy?

Complete suppression of it's people.

Ethnic cleansing.
A supreme population emerges in full loyalty of its govt.

Ya gotta weaken them to defeat them...

[underpants]

10. They don't want to do it but know they could lose Georgia races

Mitch wants to scorch the earth to create a disaster for Biden and prep for the midterms.

Toomey is trying to give Mitch cover.

[Demsrule86]

17. I think so too... I hope Schumer doesn't cave...McConnell also needs a deal.

[underpants]

21. Mitch may be forced into it

Or he may calculate that they can filibuster for 2 years and then win back the Senate.

They are such cold little turds.

[Demsrule86]

27. You are correct...I think our leaders will get the best deal possible being those that care

puts us at a disadvantage. And I would not take it to the bank that Manchin will block and end to the filibuster...he could have said it to help with Georgia.

[USALiberal]

20. Most posters post info or a link!!! nt

[Demsrule86]

28. Does it matter that much? It was the second post I think. I had no link at the time

and had heard it on MSNBC...subsequently I found a link looking for a link... and found one...so I posted it. I am on my Tablet and it is a pain in the butt to correct posts. Sorry for the confusion.

[Sympthsical]

23. It's about hamstringing Biden

They want to pass what they can now to take effect once he's in office.

Transparent, but more importantly, completely horrible. They're literally holding lives hostage.

[Demsrule86]

34. They are willing to kill Americans for political power...and have backed the mass murder of

millions of American by refusing to stop Trump and his herd immunity bullshit.

[True Blue American]

24. Guys, Both MSNBC and CNN

Have been all over the place today. One minute they were saying agreement in an hour, then, Oh ,my God it is dead!

They are grasping at straws to have something to say.

[underpants]

29. I've been watching football

Thanks for the update.

Buckeyes won!

[Demsrule86]

31. Great news. I am in Ohio.

[Demsrule86]

32. The last hour or so had not been great...hope we get something. I heard

Schumer, Romney and Toomey are closeted in Schumer's office trying to to work it out....heard this on MSNBC.

[WyattKansas]

25. The Democratic Leadership should instruct ALL Democrats to raise hell about it everytime they...

Get in front of a camera in interviews and say nothing else.
Enough with the cat and mouse games with the Republicans and Media distorting reality!
Burn their asses with it and torch them some more when they squirm!

[Demsrule86]

30. I agree.

[lame54]

33. Biden's already failing...

Future Fox Headline

[intrepidity]

35. Pelosi MUST hold the line on this

IMHO it is non-negotiable. Toomey provision will ensure ZERO future relief.

[Yeehah]

38. Right-o!

NO CAVE-IN BY DEMS!

[I_UndergroundPanther]

37. Maybe it's time

A revolution if the Dems refuse to tackle the republican problem and do what's required to disempower these fuckers. The republicans don't respect the law and don't care.

To hell with what magats feel,want and do. Time to fuck them over. They are crazy and why are we treating crazy and criminality like it is equal to the truth.?