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Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:06 AM

We ought to hope that the GOP force the issue of contesting the election results on January 6th.

There is zero chance that they'll be successful. It requires a majority in both chambers of Congress to successfully challenge a state's certified electors. If a Republican Senator and a Republican Representative challenge the results in any or all battleground states, they'll force all of the GOPers to go on record about whether or not they support Trump's coup.

There is a reason Mitch McConnell is trying to strong arm the senators into opposing a challenge--he doesn't want them to have to go on record and described it as "a terrible vote."

This process will further fracture the GOP and has zero chance of impacting Biden's win. We ought to be cheering them on as they self destruct.

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Reply We ought to hope that the GOP force the issue of contesting the election results on January 6th. (Original post)
PTWB Dec 2020 OP
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #1
PTWB Dec 2020 #2
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #3
napi21 Dec 2020 #4
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #5
Volaris Dec 2020 #7
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #8
dutch777 Dec 2020 #9
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #10
StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #6
Diraven Dec 2020 #11
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #15
justgamma Dec 2020 #12
Frasier Balzov Dec 2020 #14
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #17
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #16
TomDaisy Dec 2020 #13
PTWB Dec 2020 #18
tritsofme Dec 2020 #19
TomDaisy Dec 2020 #23
JI7 Dec 2020 #20
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #22
DallasNE Dec 2020 #21

Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:09 AM

1. Stale GOP kabuki theater all feels so last year. I am already in 2021.

You are right it is all ZERO change of success.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:12 AM

2. Oh man, I'm jealous. This last month and a half has been the longest 6 months I can remember!

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Response to PTWB (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:15 AM

3. Same here, but this weekend Trump looked so pathetic, tragic and comic. I am over his crap.

Joe is president. Time for me to move on to the new year.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:49 AM

4. I wish I had your optimism. I'm still afraid of what disastrous thing he could

come up with in this 30+ days that could cause a horrible crisis. If what-the talking heads on MSNBC & CNN are accurate, DT is in a psychotic state. Some of the aids around are scaredof what he might do & to who!

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Response to napi21 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

5. I am never optimistic, cynical to my core. But I am just over him. He is a sad pathetic fool.

He is losing support by the day. It is just a fact.
Today he wants to steal all the voting machines.
Tomorrow he will start stealing parking meters.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 01:44 AM

7. And all of the APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY prosecutions it will bring.

I'm fine with moving on. But moving FORWARD, MEANS putting actual criminals in prison for the ACTUAL crimes they've committed.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 01:47 AM

8. I agree, I wanted bush and cheney to face consequences.

And trump and pals the same, jail time.

I meant I am over paying attending to the orange F-wad.
He is a sad and pathetic loser.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 02:23 AM

9. Let's not forget Karl Rove in the prosecutions...what is the statute of limitations for treason?

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Response to dutch777 (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 02:26 AM

10. Good question. There should be no statute of limitations for treason but IDK. nt

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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

6. Most likely, if a GOP senator and rep object, they will be ruled out of order and shut down quickly

Because, as you said, McConnell does NOT want this going to a vote.

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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 02:42 AM

11. Something I'm afraid might happen

This whole Trump is thinking about declaring martial law thing is meant to give cover to all the GOP congressman to vote against the certification and by extension for Trump, because then they could claim they are just "supporting our military"

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Response to Diraven (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:00 AM

15. Nope not going to happen. It is over. Joe is going to be president in a month. nt

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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 02:46 AM

12. There is a lot of talk

about the Trumpsters. Do they believer that if Trump managed to keep the office, that Biden voters would just say alrighty then, never mind? I never hear them talk about us.

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Response to justgamma (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:00 AM

14. That's because they are confident of their firepower.

CWII is something they actually welcome.

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:02 AM

17. I know, they are actually that delusional, they think they can make this happen. nt

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Response to justgamma (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:02 AM

16. That is because they are not making any sense and detached from reality. It is all crazy talk. nt

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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 02:58 AM

13. is the vote in the House by member, or by delegation

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Response to TomDaisy (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:04 AM

18. Each member of Congress votes.

It doesn’t go to delegation vote unless there is an EV tie / no candidate got the majority of votes.

There is 0 chance that the certified electoral votes will be successfully contested and overturned.

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Response to TomDaisy (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:05 AM

19. By member.

The House only casts vote by state in the case of a contingent election, if no candidate receives a majority of electoral votes.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:54 AM

23. thank you

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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:07 AM

20. Nobody will care in the long run. McConnell needs to drop dead

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Response to JI7 (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:21 AM

22. He is the real nemesis right now. Trump is old news. nt

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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:10 AM

21. January 6th Is A Strange Situation

Pence is the presiding officer of the Senate for the incoming Senate. The 2 Georgia seats will be open because the election the day before will not be certified so it will be split 48-50 so neither party has the majority of 51, though the Republicans will have a plurality plus VP Pence. If both Democrats win you can be sure Republicans will stall the certification to the extent possible, perhaps into early February, so McConnell can be Majority Leader the first few critical days of the Biden term - think confirmation process. It will be a carnival.

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