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Botany

(76,696 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 11:12 AM Dec 2020

Stop me where I am wrong. Donny & company's latest crime wave

Russia has a massive cyber attack/hacking on America and Trump blamed China for the attack and that
attack happened after Trump fired 2 top cyber security persons one recently and one last summer.

Trump spoke of having a coup to overturn the results of the election. He spoke of trying to
impound the voting machines from the states and local B.O.E.s in the states where he lost.
His treasonous former national security advisor, Michael Flynn, openly spoke of the need to
"correct the outcome" of the election by having a coup.

Trump's son in law Jared Kushner, has been running a shell company since 2017 which funneled campaign
money to the Trump family. Vice President Pence's (picked to be V.P. by Putin via Paul Manfort) nephew
helped to run the scam.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142650669

Donny and company stopped the roll out for a vaccine for a preventable disease that has killed > 300,000 Americans
and his daughter, Ivanka, has been fucking with the CDC's #s about the Pandemic too. BTW the disease has
caused a global depression too.

Don't tell me that we need to "let it go and move forward." We need to expose these crimes and hold these
mother fuckers accountable.

30 days, 12 hours, and 48 minutes to go but who is counting?

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?csz=1&iso=20210120T00&msg=Time+left+until+Trump+leaves+office&p0=263

Sorry to But after all this shit is exposed will Trump's MAGAs still support him?

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Stop me where I am wrong. Donny & company's latest crime wave (Original Post) Botany Dec 2020 OP
K&R... orwell Dec 2020 #1
Exposing the blatant Trump/family/surrogate criminal enterprise is not agingdem Dec 2020 #2
I am not losing a lot of sleep exboyfil Dec 2020 #3
In November of 2016 I had some friends who admitted that Trump was a shit but they said, ... Botany Dec 2020 #4
Yep exboyfil Dec 2020 #5
We had a global pandemic response team until 2017, an epidemologist from the CDC in China until ... Botany Dec 2020 #6
LOCK THEM UP!!!! secondwind Dec 2020 #7
USPS was going to mail five masks to every address, until Shitler stopped them. OMGWTF Dec 2020 #21
USPS was going to mail five masks to every address, until Shitler stopped them. OMGWTF Dec 2020 #22
And that is why I find it Lokee11 Dec 2020 #8
"they were the black guy's ideas." infullview Dec 2020 #10
Mitch and the GOP know that if they let people of color vote and their votes are counted then ... Botany Dec 2020 #23
One correction. Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #16
there's another thing about ebola - the cons hyped it in OCT 2014 to get 9 senate seats certainot Dec 2020 #24
there's another thing about ebola - the cons hyped it in OCT 2014 to get 9 senate seats certainot Dec 2020 #25
Righteous rant no sorry needed... N_E_1 for Tennis Dec 2020 #9
proper legal pursuit of these criminals is the ONLY thing that yeilds deterrence in future bringthePaine Dec 2020 #11
Q: after all this shit is exposed will Trump's MAGAs still support him? plimsoll Dec 2020 #12
Of course the MAGAts would support him. SergeStorms Dec 2020 #29
Preach! Traildogbob Dec 2020 #13
K&R 2naSalit Dec 2020 #14
But her emails! keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #15
Not Only Did Trump Blame China For The Cyber Attack DallasNE Dec 2020 #17
This is going to be the longest 30 days I've experienced. Enoki33 Dec 2020 #18
Exactly Jay25 Dec 2020 #19
Kick for visibility. love_katz Dec 2020 #20
THIS: "Don't tell me that we need to "let it go and move forward." We need to expose these crimes an KPN Dec 2020 #26
THIS ...times a gazillion!! tazmaniac Dec 2020 #28
Not seeing where I should stop you. dchill Dec 2020 #27
Move on my foot Lifelong Protester Dec 2020 #30
LOCK. HIM. THE. FUCK. UP. Blue Owl Dec 2020 #31
The ONLY way forward is to expose and hold them all accountable. Tommymac Dec 2020 #32
How are these not the biggest crimes in american history RANDYWILDMAN Dec 2020 #33
The firings happened long after the attacks started (begining in March) BadGimp Dec 2020 #34
The traitor committed treason. Others around him may have committed treason, too. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #35

agingdem

(8,786 posts)
2. Exposing the blatant Trump/family/surrogate criminal enterprise is not
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 11:26 AM
Dec 2020

the issue...because of social media and 24/7 news, secrets rarely stay secret...it's about accountability...having the guts to fully investigate, prosecute, and sentence...

exboyfil

(18,348 posts)
3. I am not losing a lot of sleep
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 11:28 AM
Dec 2020

when Trump steals from the mindless horde. In one sense it is less dollars for advertising against us.

Stealing from the public purse - now that is a different matter.

I guess the two are linked. You give me x dollars, and I give you y dollars from the US Treasury.

And his mismanagement of pretty much everything a President does will be with us for generations.

But some taught Hillary a lesson didn't they.

Botany

(76,696 posts)
4. In November of 2016 I had some friends who admitted that Trump was a shit but they said, ...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

... "At least we stopped Hillary." BTW if Hillary had been installed as the rightful winner of
the 2016 election we would never have had this global pandemic. Obama had left the people,
the protocols, and the materials in place to stop the disease* but Trump just had to get rid of
all of that because, "they were the black guy's ideas."


See Ebola ... deadly and more infectious ... a total of 2 dead in America.


exboyfil

(18,348 posts)
5. Yep
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 11:45 AM
Dec 2020

and saying China didn't tell us enough at the beginning is thin gruel. If we had our embedded scientist in China it would have helped. The WH rapid response team would have helped.

Sending masks out to everyone in the US and aggressively promoting them would have helped.

Botany

(76,696 posts)
6. We had a global pandemic response team until 2017, an epidemologist from the CDC in China until ...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:02 PM
Dec 2020

... the late summer 2018, and we part of an international response organization called PREDICT
until Sept. 2019. Trump and Kushner sold or sent 18 tons of PPE to China in Jan. and Feb. 2020
because Trump and Kush-turd owes them money.

Lokee11

(401 posts)
8. And that is why I find it
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:19 PM
Dec 2020

legitimate to say the Orange Shit stain is responsible for far more than just the 323,000+ deaths in this country but a substantial amount of the almost 1.7 million deaths on this planet.

He is Death - He is the Grim Reaper - everything that comes in contact with him perishes.

FDT!

infullview

(1,114 posts)
10. "they were the black guy's ideas."
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:22 PM
Dec 2020

Exactly right. Systemic racism at its finest. BTW let's not forget Mitch's plege to make Obama a one term president and block any legislation he backed - including ones that were sponsered by the right.

Botany

(76,696 posts)
23. Mitch and the GOP know that if they let people of color vote and their votes are counted then ...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 01:34 PM
Dec 2020

... their days are over in most of America.

Look @ South Carolina .... 35% Black and 11% (and growing) Hispanic

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
24. there's another thing about ebola - the cons hyped it in OCT 2014 to get 9 senate seats
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 01:34 PM
Dec 2020

some considered it an oct surprise because it scared the con base, was used to attack obama as being lax, was tied to immigrants bringing it in, etc

in the 2019 congo ebola outbreak limbaugh was starting to do the same thing - telling millions that congolese in the 'caravans' were going to bring it across the southern border (we need the wall etc) - but it was controlled (despite a social media campaign (from where?- russia?) to sabotage efforts to control it) and along came COVID

since then trump seems to have morphed the 'use the ebola pandemic' into making covid worse.

how many of the dod and cdc worst case scenarios stephen miller summarized to trump included the possibility of having to delay elections or declare emergency powers, etc? or having to increase mail in elections - which might stimulate strategizing about how to prevent that - as in sabotaging the USPS?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. there's another thing about ebola - the cons hyped it in OCT 2014 to get 9 senate seats
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 01:35 PM
Dec 2020

some considered it an oct surprise because it scared the con base, was used to attack obama as being lax, was tied to immigrants bringing it in, etc

in the 2019 congo ebola outbreak limbaugh was starting to do the same thing - telling millions that congolese in the 'caravans' were going to bring it across the southern border (we need the wall etc) - but it was controlled (despite a social media campaign (from where?- russia?) to sabotage efforts to control it) and along came COVID

since then trump seems to have morphed the 'use the ebola pandemic' into making covid worse.

how many of the dod and cdc worst case scenarios stephen miller summarized to trump included the possibility of having to delay elections or declare emergency powers, etc? or having to increase mail in elections - which might stimulate strategizing about how to prevent that - as in sabotaging the USPS?

N_E_1 for Tennis

(12,758 posts)
9. Righteous rant no sorry needed...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:20 PM
Dec 2020

Not only expose...prosecution is necessary. Trials have to happen. There is no “moving on” till justice is done.

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
12. Q: after all this shit is exposed will Trump's MAGAs still support him?
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:27 PM
Dec 2020

Hell yes. He's making America great again.

What is it 4, 5 years of feeling like we're in a really bad remake of Princes Bride, but Vezzini is in charge and still uses words he doesn't seem to understand.

SergeStorms

(20,200 posts)
29. Of course the MAGAts would support him.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 02:18 PM
Dec 2020

They never take a chance of exposing themselves to the truth because they watch nothing but FOX, News Max, and OAN. Then they listen to right-wing propaganda radio in the off hours. They live in an isolated and and carefully crafted world of lies , but that's what they want to hear and see. If anything wanders off the official propaganda line it's "fake news", and they can't stand being exposed to facts and truth.

Traildogbob

(12,721 posts)
13. Preach!
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:28 PM
Dec 2020

Right there with you Botany. I believe in the Constitution and took an oath before serving this country. I especially LOVE the part about treason and the consequences. I can gladly put a bandaid on my liberal bleeding heart long enough for that firing squad to implement justice, as clearly stated in the sacred document. How about a good ole crucifixion. But not with a cross, a big ole capital “T”. No trees harmed, recycled plastic “T”.

DallasNE

(7,984 posts)
17. Not Only Did Trump Blame China For The Cyber Attack
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 12:52 PM
Dec 2020

He took action against China in the form of not allowing Americans to own stock in China owned companies so he has compounded the problem and created another headache for Biden to unravel.

KPN

(17,201 posts)
26. THIS: "Don't tell me that we need to "let it go and move forward." We need to expose these crimes an
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 01:57 PM
Dec 2020

... and hold these mother fuckers accountable."

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
32. The ONLY way forward is to expose and hold them all accountable.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 03:45 PM
Dec 2020

I think PE Joe knows this and is playing his hand low key until 1/21.

Remember Nixon.
Remember North.
Remember GW.
Remember Rummy.
Remember Dark Dick.

All we have done is REMEMBER - well FUCK THAT.

Time for action or The USA will be no more.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,136 posts)
33. How are these not the biggest crimes in american history
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 04:00 PM
Dec 2020

During Drump this is the new normal and we are all just supposed to go along

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