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Hell no, let's not commit political suicide Amishman Dec 2020 #1
:) Don't worry. This isn't The Onion, but the suggestion's Onion-worthy. Hortensis Dec 2020 #9
! sheshe2 Dec 2020 #14
I feel soooo much better now . FarPoint Dec 2020 #23
Agreed Gothmog Dec 2020 #40
She has a job in Congress...but hell no. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #2
Doubt very much that will happen Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #5
Yes for Governor Dean!!!! MacKasey Dec 2020 #10
Biden picks the next DNC chair Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #15
Well if you want to win, he should be. He was the most successful DNC chair ever. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #50
Still not going to happen Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #58
He certainly was that DFW Dec 2020 #60
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 #18
we need someone who does not hold an elective office yellowdogintexas Dec 2020 #41
What do you think just happened. RDANGELO Dec 2020 #3
Bookmarking this thread True Dough Dec 2020 #4
She would be the worst choice in my opinion. calguy Dec 2020 #6
Don't think that would be a good pick Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #7
... mcar Dec 2020 #8
K n R! Our messaging would be much stronger and... JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #11
Lol Lol Lol Hard pass awesomerwb1 Dec 2020 #12
Successfully running the DNC requires more than glibness, bluntness and lots of Twitter followers StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #13
This is an opinion piece from a right wing source Bradshaw3 Dec 2020 #16
Opinion piece? Yes. Rightwing publication? I think not.......... George II Dec 2020 #27
Maybe not a right wing publication Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #30
You're correct, it's ALWAYS AOC attack day on this site, SophieJean Dec 2020 #32
AOC is seen by most as a socialist. That's quite different than a progressive. brush Dec 2020 #34
I think... Mike Nelson Dec 2020 #17
Is it possible to see more of her? George II Dec 2020 #26
... betsuni Dec 2020 #46
..... R B Garr Dec 2020 #51
... sheshe2 Dec 2020 #56
;) :0 ;) ;) ;) sheshe2 Dec 2020 #19
I presume you are joking... comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #20
Yes.... sheshe2 Dec 2020 #22
The Hill would love this. n/t moonscape Dec 2020 #21
The problem with AOC is the right liberal N proud Dec 2020 #24
+1 R B Garr Dec 2020 #52
Uh... PJMcK Dec 2020 #25
Disagree LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #28
Here's a better choice: Stacey Abrams Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #29
Agreed. Stacey Abrams has already shown her GOTV bona fides... brush Dec 2020 #35
We need Stacey to help us get free and fair elections in every state questionseverything Dec 2020 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyWulf Dec 2020 #59
That piece is authored by rightwing nut, Joe Concha... Kahuna Dec 2020 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #33
Good God. Have we run out of feet to shoot ourselves in? Squinch Dec 2020 #36
This is clickbait JI7 Dec 2020 #37
Really, right wing opinion crap from the Hill?! SophieJean Dec 2020 #38
I agree questionseverything Dec 2020 #47
Sickening? George II Dec 2020 #49
I'm in my mid 70s, classic middle class. I think AOC is awesome. Biophilic Dec 2020 #39
Abrams is adept at getting out the vote BainsBane Dec 2020 #48
Welp. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #57
The job of DNC Chair isn't communications (social media or otherwise) with the masses..... brooklynite Dec 2020 #42
Trump isn't head of the Republican National Committee and will never be LeftInTX Dec 2020 #43
So. in your opinion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2020 #44
She has more enemies than friends in the Democratic Party. lpbk2713 Dec 2020 #54
I'd say "disapprovers," and they're all of her own making. Hortensis Dec 2020 #61
Ouch! LOL! betsuni Dec 2020 #45
Absolutely not. Justice Dec 2020 #55
Hell no!!@@@ redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #62

Amishman

(5,917 posts)
1. Hell no, let's not commit political suicide
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:04 PM
Dec 2020

She is to brash, to unpopular, and will absolutely cost us votes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. :) Don't worry. This isn't The Onion, but the suggestion's Onion-worthy.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:13 PM
Dec 2020

I'd like to see her talent for thrilling those who have a taste for criticizing and complaining about doers taken to a Real Socialists of NY reality show. We already know it'd be a hit.

Demsrule86

(71,499 posts)
50. Well if you want to win, he should be. He was the most successful DNC chair ever.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 10:22 PM
Dec 2020

He gave us a 60 person Senate majority.

DFW

(59,762 posts)
60. He certainly was that
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 05:51 AM
Dec 2020

But I‘ll tell you this for free, since Howard has been a personal friend for about 20 years now: he turned 72 in November, and Judy would chain his ankle to the dining room table before she’d let him take that job again. During the time he was DNC chairman, she didn‘t see him much more often than I did, and I live in Germany.

yellowdogintexas

(23,595 posts)
41. we need someone who does not hold an elective office
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:33 PM
Dec 2020

Those folks have enough on their plates already.

I would be ecstatic if Howard Dean became Party Chair again

To my mind, Stacey Abrams would be the perfect party chair if she were not eyeing a run for governor in 2 years. She gives a master class in how to get things done

Call me an old fogey but these up and comers need to dig in and really learn their jobs so they can do the most good for their districts. The goals they seek will come along as they advance.
Starting at the top and working your way down is kind of revers e

calguy

(6,071 posts)
6. She would be the worst choice in my opinion.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:08 PM
Dec 2020

Her comments as a freshman representative have already given the opposition too many talking points to count. She just blurts stuff out of her mouth with absolutely no tact whatsoever. No telling how many down ballot votes she cost us, but it was a LOT.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
7. Don't think that would be a good pick
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:09 PM
Dec 2020

She is still not experienced enough.

And doesn’t Biden pick the next chair?

awesomerwb1

(4,996 posts)
12. Lol Lol Lol Hard pass
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:15 PM
Dec 2020

How to lose elections 101. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. Successfully running the DNC requires more than glibness, bluntness and lots of Twitter followers
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:21 PM
Dec 2020

In fact, those are so far down on the list of attributes needed to qualify for DNC chair, they're not even worth talking about.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
16. This is an opinion piece from a right wing source
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:23 PM
Dec 2020

Joe Concha writes for right wing publications and appears on Fox News. I found quotes from him on Fox with comments such as how "overwhelmingly biased CNN is against trump" and many past attacks on Democratic figures.

Now I thought we weren't supposed to use RW sources on here. I notice it's been an "attack AOC" day here on DU. So is this OK now, to use RW sources to attack AOC or other Democrats?

 

SophieJean

(83 posts)
32. You're correct, it's ALWAYS AOC attack day on this site,
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:50 PM
Dec 2020

and the comments on this post are disgusting. Perhaps time to depart DU, and the name "Democratic Underground," doesn't exactly fit the discourse. It should be for center right Dems only-progressives not welcome.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
34. AOC is seen by most as a socialist. That's quite different than a progressive.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:59 PM
Dec 2020

She's a self-avowed democratic socialist. Her as DNC chair would be disaster.

She needs to distance herself asap from socialism.

Mike Nelson

(10,927 posts)
17. I think...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:23 PM
Dec 2020

... not. I would like to see more of her, though. Trumpsters paint her as many things... one of them is dumb. But when she speaks, she obviously very smart. I loved her serving on a Congressional committee and thought her questions were great.

liberal N proud

(61,166 posts)
24. The problem with AOC is the right
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 08:28 PM
Dec 2020

They have already demonized her more than they ever did Hillary or Nancy.

She can't be affective when fighting all their conspiracy theories.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
35. Agreed. Stacey Abrams has already shown her GOTV bona fides...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:03 PM
Dec 2020

in helping turn Georgia blue. And if the can do that in a long-time red state like that, just think how effective she can be nationwide.

questionseverything

(11,619 posts)
53. We need Stacey to help us get free and fair elections in every state
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 10:42 PM
Dec 2020

We need aoc in congress

Dnc head is an organizational, pencil pushing position both these women would be wasted there

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SophieJean

(83 posts)
38. Really, right wing opinion crap from the Hill?!
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:12 PM
Dec 2020

The comments on this post are sickening. The Hill "article" is an opinion click piece and basically an insult to AOC. Comparing her to trump in any capacity is meant to discredit her character and accomplishments. AOC doesn't spew misogynistic, racist bilge the last time I checked, she doesn't encourage lies about election fraud and martial law, nor has she attacked election officials doing their jobs. She is constantly attacked by rightwingers for speaking the truth, so nice to see "Democrats," helping them out. It is not true that she does not "filter" her comments, which are generally intelligent, and presented extremely well.
She has been very good at taking down certain Republicans, but I guess that doesn't matter to the supposed Democrats on this site. AND, AOC IS still a Democrat, but she is continuously bashed on this forum as some sort of freak, not a sitting Democratic congresswoman deserving of any respect. She fought for $1200.00 stimulus checks non stop, but that doesn't matter to the AOC haters. The policies she supports are progressive AND far past time.
My older kids voted Democratic in this election because of people like AOC, not Pelosi or Schumer, etc. She inspires them, their friends, and many others their age. They are the future, so I suggest maybe listening to what she actually says and does before piling on the hate. I haven't read anything about AOC's stance regarding the DNC, so perhaps she should be consulted.
Really disappointed in this site's hatred of progessive Democrats, which I also happen to be. I've worked with Democratic organizations where I live in CA, donated generously to progressive Dems, and most of these comments completely disgust me.

AOC represents the future of America: Women who refuse to be silenced
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/25/aoc-speech-represents-future-america-women

Biophilic

(6,417 posts)
39. I'm in my mid 70s, classic middle class. I think AOC is awesome.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:21 PM
Dec 2020

I think she would be wasted as DNC chair. Her talents aren't those. Stacey would be great. She is the organizer. AOC is a rabble rouser. She won't be silenced and she won't be polite. I'm tired of watching the Republicans walk all over the Democrats for decades. I love watching woman who persist and won't be silenced. Times are changing. Quit knocking her down and start using her and her skills.

BainsBane

(57,439 posts)
48. Abrams is adept at getting out the vote
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 10:05 PM
Dec 2020

She was an important factor in Biden’s election. That certainly does not make her a lesser person than AOC.

sheshe2

(96,072 posts)
57. Welp.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 11:56 PM
Dec 2020
I love watching woman who persist and won't be silenced.


Then you must love all the women that came before her. Their courage and determination to make this country a better place.

Elizabeth Warren: gave us the CPA. The GOP tried to knock her down for this and she whipped their ass. She spoke in Congress and persisted when they told her to sit down and shut up.

Maxine Waters: Reclaimed her time.Persisted.

Kamala Harris: VP elect. Firebrand. Persisted.

Nancy Pelosi: Persisted for decades.

Hillary: She was pushing single payer when AOC was a baby. She was the First lady at that time and was not able to vote for it. Persisted.

Their are more. These are progressive woman that have fought for us all our lives. They have huge accomplishments under their belts. As for Stacey Abrams? She handed us Georgia, the state and perhaps on 01/05/2021 she may well hand us the Senate.

When you prop up one woman by demeaning all that came before her is an insult to all woman. Frankly I don't believe AOC would approve that. She has potential and can learn much from her peers.

pro·gres·sive
/prəˈɡresiv/

adjective
1.
happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.
"a progressive decline in popularity"

(of a group, person, or idea) favoring or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.
noun
1.
a person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.
"people tend to present themselves either as progressives or traditionalists on this issue"


 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
42. The job of DNC Chair isn't communications (social media or otherwise) with the masses.....
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:38 PM
Dec 2020

...and it's especially not advocating of policies.

It's fundraising and Party organization, especially considering the decentralized structure of State Committees.

Point to any experience AOC has in these areas.

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
43. Trump isn't head of the Republican National Committee and will never be
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:44 PM
Dec 2020

So why is the author comparing the two?

Trump doesn't have the concentration or attention to detail that it takes to run a political party.

AOC could run for president...but doubt if she would survive primaries...She hasn't been in tabloids for 40 years, has never been featured in Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous or has had her own reality show.....Trump won in 2016 because of his media exposure (more like saturation) for 40 years...


This article is really, really stupid....

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,729 posts)
44. So. in your opinion...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:47 PM
Dec 2020

either of those two "things" is plus?

Neither one in my opinion, especially for a DNC chair.

lpbk2713

(43,249 posts)
54. She has more enemies than friends in the Democratic Party.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 10:58 PM
Dec 2020


There would be no way she could get anything accomplished.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. I'd say "disapprovers," and they're all of her own making.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 06:14 AM
Dec 2020

She's 31 now and has 2 years of getting to know the colleagues whose intents and motivations she still dishonestly publicly denies, misrepresents and insults.

I'm afraid she may be hard wired to radicalism and unable to ever be more than a complainer wired to obstruct the majority. If she's not one of the unfortunates who are literally unable to understand the validity of alternatives to her great idea or to respect that others can rightfully believe in themselves and in shared ideas and ideals, why is she still doing this?

In the middle of great national and planetary emergencies that require good people to pull together if we're not to fall to authoritarianism and severe national decline in a declining planet?

betsuni

(28,761 posts)
45. Ouch! LOL!
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 09:55 PM
Dec 2020

"The perfect microcosm of who AOC is: a complainer not a doer" and that's why she should be in charge of the "rudderless" DNC.

But I thought the "rudderless" DNC was a immensely powerful secret organization diabolically anointing establishment centrist candidates and rigging elections!

Justice

(7,247 posts)
55. Absolutely not.
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 11:01 PM
Dec 2020

The DNC must be full time. No part time gig. Also needs to be more vocal than Tom Perez.

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