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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBar complaint filed against Trump attorneys in Arizona
Linn Wood, Sidney Powell and two attorneys in Powell's firm are named
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The 8-page letter to the Lawyer Regulation Division of the State Bar of Arizona alleges the attorneys knowingly brought 10 utterly meritless cases against elections officials.
Confidence in the legal system is seriously eroded when attorneys treat lawsuits as a platform for broadcasting gossip and innuendo utterly devoid of factual proof, as a political stunt, the letter states.
The bar complaint requests the State Bar of Arizona conduct an official investigation and that appropriate action be taken. If an ethics violation is sustained against an attorney, the consequences could include verbal reprimand, investigation fees, required ethics courses, suspension and disbarment.
Eleven of the attorneys named in the complaint are practicing in Arizona. The others are licensed in other states but worked on the Arizona cases, including the widely known Dallas attorney Sidney Powell.
vapor2
(4,481 posts)As a lawyer (who used to practice in AZ now in IL) I can tell you the only complaints the Bar Association ever looks at are complaints from clients or former clients of lawyers. Usually complaints that a lawyer didn't file a case they said they did or the lawyer stopped communicating with the client. Stuff like that. This complaint in the OP is something to get on the news for a day or two.
TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)Seems to me that lying about the existence of widespread fraud in order to overturn our democracy is a tad more serious than anything Bill Clinton ever did.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)A far different standard.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)Having an affair is not a crime.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)It was about a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by Paula Jones.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)Bill Clinton did not receive any fucking "latitude." It was an investigation about the Whitewater land deal. Starr could find no wrongdoing so he went after an immaterial lie about an irrelevant private matter. It should not have even counted as perjury since it was immaterial to the investigation. It wasn't even material to the Paula Jones sexual harassment case. Lewinsky always maintained her affair with Bill Clinton was consensual. No reasonable prosecutor would ever have brought that charge.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Everyone recognizes that. But don't believe me. Just watch what happens -- or doesn't happen --- with the complaint.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)Eugene
(67,099 posts)Not a lawyer, but two concerns I've noticed:
1. Lawyers get more latitude in politically charged cases.
2. Discipline tends to rely on precedent, and Giuliani's and Powell's conduct are completely off the charts.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)former9thward
(33,424 posts)Jail time is always a potential penalty for perjury. So yes, he did receive latitude -- as he should have.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)Give me a fucking break. He did not receive any fucking latitude. It was an investigation about the Whitewater land deal. Starr could find no wrongdoing so he went after an immaterial lie about an irrelevant private matter. It should not have even counted as perjury since it was immaterial to the investigation. It wasn't even material to the Paula Jones sexual harassment case. Lewinsky always maintained the affair was consensual. No reasonable prosecutor would ever have brought that charge.
You are dead wrong.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Look it up.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)You're the one who needs to "look it up." Start with 18 U.S. Code § 1621, which defines perjury as "an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true" [emphasis mine].
As any Google search of perjury law will teach you:
But no, you gotta bash Bill Clinton, claiming he could have been jailed. Unfuckingbelievable.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)Bill Clinton just lied about an affair. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/02/duncancampbell
These idiots used their law licenses to bring multiple frivolous "voter fraud" lawsuits, perpetrating their own fraud upon the courts of this country by claiming, falsely and without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud in this country in the 2020 presidential election. And they did this not for purposes of hiding a private sexual affair, but in order to subvert our democracy and disenfranchise 20 million American voters, disproportionately people of color.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Ohiogal
(40,544 posts)spanone
(141,560 posts)Captain Zero
(8,900 posts)HIM, the Indiana AG, filing Amicus Brief with Supremes about the Texas Suit. I complained mightily.
Their form letter back said after review by their lawyers at the AG office they had determined my complaint about the AG was not in their jurisdiction.
Haha. Well. At least I made them read it and reply.
spanone
(141,560 posts)👍👍👍
Thekaspervote
(35,820 posts)question everything
(52,107 posts)and may be counting on a pardon.
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TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)a lawyer is licensed. It goes on their record. It will not just be ignored. It's probably equally as bad as being sanctioned in your own state.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)They used their law license to perpetrate a fraud upon the court in order to destroy Americas democracy.
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BobTheSubgenius
(12,215 posts)There should be a mega-storm of blowback from coast-to-coast.
patphil
(9,056 posts)It's the only way to deter this kind of stuff happening in future elections.
Disbarment and fines should be the order of the day.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Cha
(318,969 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)Nothing happens to these asshole trump lawyers, it will reflect it in their records forever. They need to be disbarred.
malaise
(295,961 posts)Rec
Gothmog
(179,665 posts)This will be fun to watch. Sidney Powell will be sanctioned https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/22/nessel-seek-sanctions-against-lawyers-challenging-election-results/4009929001/
The Democratic attorney general also plans to pursue court costs and fees and, along with Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, to file complaints with the attorney grievance commission, Nessel told reporters Tuesday.
"Some of these cases where we know for a fact there were intentional misrepresentations made the kind of misrepresentation that there is no question of fact that these were inaccurate statements that were presented to the court yes, myself and also Secretary Benson, will be filing complaints to the attorney grievance commission," Nessel said.