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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:38 PM Oct 2012

They both were oxygen-starved.



When speaking in public after standing for extended periods, like in a lecture, I have been known to ramble or forget my train of thought.

A doctor pal told me it was due to oxygen deprivation, the air was going to my legs and jaw. The brain responds by shuffling O2 from the higher functions to the more basic functions.

This first debate was in the Mile High City. Both men revealed signs of oxygen deprivation. More than being "off," however, I believe the circumstances revealed their more basic nature.

In the case of ex-Gov Romney, he was, at heart, a bully.

President Obama showed he is basically a thoughtful person.

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Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
1. The easiest solution to altitude sickness
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:42 PM
Oct 2012

is which both were suffering from - keep yourself hydrated 100%. I've had to keep telling my in-laws to drink water - almost EVERY time they come to Denver.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
2. I think I heard Romney was practicing there early.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:46 PM
Oct 2012

He may have been better acclimated.

Moral of story...no more debates in Denver or wherever that was.

 

arboretum

(27 posts)
3. Dear fake Jesus
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

Let my oxygen-starved candidate perform better than the other oxygen-starved candidate.

All thing being equal, Jesus, let my oxygen-starved candidate smash the other loser in an asphyxiated haze.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
4. You Could See There Was Something Wrong With Obama
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:56 PM
Oct 2012

When he told Jim Lehrer that he had five seconds left, and it took him 20-30 seconds to finish his thought.

caraher

(6,359 posts)
7. You can't say much in 5 seconds.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:06 AM
Oct 2012

Obama was just taking advantage of maintaining his hold on the floor. Romney did a LOT more of that, of course... I think he got the last word in almost every segment.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
9. I Realize That
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:33 AM
Oct 2012

but Obama hesitated a couple of times and seemed to have difficulty putting his thoughts into words. I noted it the time but didn't know what to attribute it to. Maybe the altitude was part of it.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. When I was 11, my family moved to Colorado
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:59 PM
Oct 2012

Going up to over a mile in altitude from barely above sea level affected my eyes. For about three days, I had pain behind both eyes and felt pressure. Also, I had trouble with light.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
6. I've had altitude sickness and could hardly speak...
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:02 AM
Oct 2012

I felt so lightheaded and nauseated the first day. Could be the case here - if so, they did well just to participate.

bleever

(20,618 posts)
8. I do believe that people under the influence, or under stress, show a more authentic
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:58 AM
Oct 2012

side in many cases.

Pared back to their instincts.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
10. Dennis Miller did a show in Aspen once & had an oxygen tank on stage.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:09 AM
Oct 2012


"Get a fucking atmosphere!" he said before taking a big hit of O. I know no one here likes him, but it was funny.

renate

(13,776 posts)
11. didn't Obama make a habit out of playing basketball before debates in 2008?
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:13 AM
Oct 2012

Or was that on election days in the primaries, as sort of a good-luck ritual?

I thought he did like to exercise to relieve stress. He may have been feeling crappy when he actually got to the debate, and he really did seem kind of spacey and slow and off his game. Unlike Romney and his train, though, he didn't make excuses.

H2O Man

(79,056 posts)
12. I read a post
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:17 AM
Oct 2012

on DU:GD earlier, that noted that Bob Woodward suggested that President Obama was distracted .... likely by some pressing national security update he got shortly before the debate.

By no coincidence, about 12 minutes into the debate, I told the friends who were at my house for the debate the same thing.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
13. Mormons have an advantage at high elevations
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:20 AM
Oct 2012

the next one should be more of a fair fight.

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