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1918 Merry Xmas (Original Post) kpete Dec 2020 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Dec 2020 #1
This could have been printed yesterday. Hugin Dec 2020 #2
That's probably because it was BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #17
Disappointing. Hugin Dec 2020 #19
I suspected as much. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #24
K, so ... that's some scary shit. The US isn't doing much different than in 1918 and even worse ... uponit7771 Dec 2020 #3
Yes, in many ways, I think worse PatSeg Dec 2020 #9
Actually at the time, a lot of people traveled a lot. sarge43 Dec 2020 #20
Yes PatSeg Dec 2020 #22
Relative isolation certainly gave protection; however, sarge43 Dec 2020 #23
Great find! niyad Dec 2020 #4
K&R gademocrat7 Dec 2020 #5
Why don't some humans learn? SheltieLover Dec 2020 #6
We've done okay with tuberculosis BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #18
My dad was 6 years old and he remembered safeinOhio Dec 2020 #7
My mother was 10 years old and remembered sarge43 Dec 2020 #13
I've spent time looking at grave stones in cemeteries. safeinOhio Dec 2020 #21
I think people were tougher back then. Ligyron Dec 2020 #14
Kick dalton99a Dec 2020 #8
My dad's mother died from that flu frogmarch Dec 2020 #10
K&R onecaliberal Dec 2020 #11
Kick and rec orangecrush Dec 2020 #12
Apparently not 1918 Flu - 1919 Red Cross fight against Tuberculosis - original here Pluvious Dec 2020 #15
It's fake. Original was about TB. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #16

Hugin

(33,140 posts)
2. This could have been printed yesterday.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 09:44 AM
Dec 2020

At least now there is some understanding of pathogens and vaccines.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
3. K, so ... that's some scary shit. The US isn't doing much different than in 1918 and even worse ...
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 09:53 AM
Dec 2020

... seeing 1. we know wearing a mask worked then and we have better masks now and 2. we put a man on the moon before I was born.

Jus ... damn

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
9. Yes, in many ways, I think worse
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 11:21 AM
Dec 2020

Most people didn't travel very much back then, so it is likely that for many, it didn't spread as far or as quickly as it does today. There would have been areas totally unaffected by the pandemic, because they didn't come in contact with any infected people. Of course, we have the advantage of more sanitary living conditions. Indoor plumbing especially gives us an edge.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
20. Actually at the time, a lot of people traveled a lot.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 12:54 PM
Dec 2020

All those military and naval personnel returning from the war zones. They were from North America, all of Europe, Africa, India, Australia, New Zealand. They were packed into trains and troop ships. If even one in a hundred were infected ... we know the result. Worse, in Europe, especially Eastern Europe, the medical support was stretched to the breaking point and beyond. In India and sub Sahara Africa, wasn't much to begin with and broken by the first wave.

It was a plague's dream scenario.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
22. Yes
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 02:51 PM
Dec 2020

I was going to mention the military leaving middle America and carrying the flu to Europe, but the average American tended to stay pretty close to home much of the time. Today, people get on planes and travel across country or overseas fairly regularly. I was surprised when working on numerous branches of my family tree, that I didn't find one mention of the flu, but most of these people lived on farms or in small towns. For them, the pandemic might have been something they read about in the newspaper.

How different things might have been if the U.S. hadn't sent sick soldiers to Europe, at least in the size and spread of the pandemic.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
23. Relative isolation certainly gave protection; however,
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:03 PM
Dec 2020

a lot of those servicemen came from farms and small towns. Further, once back in the US most of them would have traveled all over returning to their homes.

Your family was fortunate; however, as it is today, people were traumatized. They were reluctant to talk about their experiences. I had to directly ask my mother about hers and she usually had no problem talking about the two clan's shenanigans. This isn't just a one off. Several studies and documentaries mention survivor reluctance, a common symptom of post trauma. Not saying your family was among them, just offering a possibility.

Here is one of the best summation I've run across:https://virus.stanford.edu/uda

US population 1920: 106M and it was about half and half rural v. urban.

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
7. My dad was 6 years old and he remembered
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 11:05 AM
Dec 2020

the neighbor tossing food over the fence. His mother had the Spanish Flu.
Then, almost 30 years later he was one the military that got an experimental vaccine for the Yellow Fever. It was a faulty vaccine that he contracted Hep A from it.
My Grandmother went on to live into her 90s and so did Dad.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
13. My mother was 10 years old and remembered
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 12:35 PM
Dec 2020

She told me about watching coffins being dropped off at neighbors' homes. Three of her school friends died.

With one exception, her family all came down with the flu - grandfather, father, aunt, brother, sister and herself. Her grandmother was a RN, didn't succumb and somehow kept them all alive. She said the hospitals weren't an option, all filled up.

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
21. I've spent time looking at grave stones in cemeteries.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 12:55 PM
Dec 2020

See lots of young people that died in 1918 and 1919.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
14. I think people were tougher back then.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 12:37 PM
Dec 2020

More infant and childhood death, of course and the weaker, for the most part, just didn’t live long enough to even reproduce, most people waiting for marriage to have kids.

Fast forward to huge medical advances and multiple pregnancies before the age of 16.

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