Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

StrictlyRockers

(3,854 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 07:35 PM Dec 2020

It's more like a ransom demand than it is legislation.

Releasing the details of a 5,000 page bill just a few hours before the scheduled vote, is not a good way to govern. It's more like a ransom demand than it is legislation.

And why does it include $500,000,000 for Israel? How is that related to a Covid stimulus bill?

How are our legislators supposed to make an informed decision on this bill if they are given two hours to read a 5,000+ page document? It's ridiculous. This is no way to govern a large nation. We should demand better from Congress.


5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
It's more like a ransom demand than it is legislation. (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 OP
Where did you get that was in the stimulus bill? frazzled Dec 2020 #1
The 2021 budget includes the stimulus sweetloukillbot Dec 2020 #2
Thanks for the clarification frazzled Dec 2020 #3
As a former journalist, I'm a big defender of press and the media sweetloukillbot Dec 2020 #4
The 5,000+ Page Bill Is Not A COVID Bill ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #5

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Where did you get that was in the stimulus bill?
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 07:49 PM
Dec 2020

Perhaps you were thinking of the Defense bill that was passed last week? But that doesn't match with the $500M you quoted.

The Senate on Friday passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for 2021, a massive bill which provides $740 billion in funding for a range of defense-related issues for the next fiscal year, including at least $3.3 billion that will go to Israel security assistance.
The Senate voted 84 to 13 in favor of the NDAA. The House passed the bill 335-78 on Tuesday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/20/us/politics/congress-stimulus-deal.html

sweetloukillbot

(10,787 posts)
2. The 2021 budget includes the stimulus
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 08:07 PM
Dec 2020

So people are misreading, misreporting and misunderstanding what the bill is. It’s not the stimulus bill, it’s the omnibus spending bill. So yes, money to Israel is included in the budget, just like COVID relief is.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Thanks for the clarification
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 09:43 PM
Dec 2020

Sometimes I think we can be just as susceptible to disinformation as those other people are. Though usually not quite as crazy.

sweetloukillbot

(10,787 posts)
4. As a former journalist, I'm a big defender of press and the media
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 09:58 PM
Dec 2020

But they’re absolutely dropping the ball on how they’re. Describing and reporting this.

ProfessorGAC

(64,413 posts)
5. The 5,000+ Page Bill Is Not A COVID Bill
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 10:04 PM
Dec 2020

The COVID bill is one chapter (so to speak) in an overall appropriations bill to free money for most discretionary spend through September 30, 2021.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»It's more like a ransom d...