Alternative Realities

[kentuck]

The Democrats live in a world where the winner of the election becomes the President. The winner is determined by who gets the most votes, as determined by the Electoral College.

The Democrats live in a world where the institutions are trusted to perform the will of the people.

Trump and present Republicans do seem to live in an alternative world. The votes do not matter. The Electoral College does not matter. The will of the people does not matter. The institutions trusted with over-seeing our elections do not matter.

Yes, it is an "alternative reality". It is a reality where proven facts are ignored and imagined facts are assumed. One is real and one is not.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. It's not that alternative reality, it's another

tRumpanzees do too believe that 1) votes matter and 2) the winner of the election becomes President.

The realities differ in 1) the determination of what is a true and legal vote, and the assertion that once untrue and illegal votes are cast out, 2) tRump is the winner.

The realities further differ in terms of what level of proof is required to prove vast voter fraud. Theirs are absurdly low and unrealistic.

[kentuck]

2. That is true, also.

But, without proof, the reality is unproven. There has to be facts or some basis to support ideas that are assumed realities. They can believe whatever they want to believe. That alone does not make it so.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. Deadly to CTs: counter-assertion that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

Shuts up online trumpanzees while they scurry away and find some epochtimes, zerohedge, or ONAN link. Then you shoot that down because they will contain either 1) internal inconsistencies or 2) factoids that are verifiably false, or both. Then they shut up for a much longer period.

Also, in general, you can't prove a negative. Even so, the nationwide certification of the vote by Republicans and Democrats and urbanites and rurals and christians and non-christians is tremendous evidence that there is no widespread voter fraud or electoral fraud.

Regardless, it is still the case that claiming widespread fraud is an extraordinary claim and so requires extraordinary proof. That means it must be logical, grounded in reality (stuff happens), and based on verifiable facts. As a minimum. But it also requires multiple factual support of EACH claim: high quality facts, numerous facts, and pertinent facts. It is a fallacy the way they think that a hundred claims makes it so "obvious and blatant", despite each claim being based on flimsy evidence and/or made by shady characters, often in shady circumstances. Hence, for example, claims of servers being seized in Germany do not automatically support claims of cross-stateline ballot shipments and all the rest.

[kentuck]

4. If perception is reality...?

They perceive it to be true. However, there is no basis for their belief. There is no evidence. They can be paranoid or distrustful or whatever they choose to be, but it does not change the evidence that we have on hand, provided by institutions that we normally trust, such as election officials and Secretarys of State.